Skip to comments.Current birth rates could produce Muslim domination
Posted on 02/06/2007 6:24:53 AM PST by NYer
The Population Research Institute says the Western world is facing a crisis as virtually every country has birth rates well below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman.Hear This Report
A pro-family organization has done extensive research into birth rates around the world and has concluded that if the Western world wants to survive, it better start having more children. The Population Research Institute (PRI) says virtually every Western or Westernized nation on the planet is slowly dying off because birth rates have fallen below the 2.1-child-per-woman replacement level.
PRI spokesman Joseph D'Agostino says for the most part, only Muslims have high birth rates. "It's because Christians and Jews are refusing to have children, refusing to get married, [and] having such low birth rates that the Muslims are going to inherit the Earth," he explains. "It's not anything the Muslims are doing; it's what Christians and Jews are not doing."
D'Agostino says the future of the world will certainly be quite different if Muslims become the dominate population group in the coming decades. "I think we can see what life is like in Islamic countries," he says. "I think Christians know that it's a false religion. And we can see that the Muslim world is becoming actually more radical and, in many ways, is headed backwards into its barbaric phase."
D'Agostino notes that it is only through immigration that the U.S. population continues to grow -- and that the current situation begs a pragmatic solution: "If you don't want the world to turn into Saudi Arabia, maybe people other than Muslims need to start having some kids at the rate the Muslims are having kids."
Duh, I'm surprised this had to be said in an actual report. My father and I were talking about this months ago with much trepidation. I've got one daughter, and hope to have 2 to 3 more children, so I'll do my part!
/Remember to buy war bonds!
I have 4 daughters. I'm done.
I'm sure they should pop out at least 3 each.
Just saying my family has a chunk taken care of. LOL
Mark Steyn figured this out months ago -- and he didn't have a big-budget research institute paying him for it....
Could the world slide down into another "Dark Ages" period? It has happened before.
we are headed for ruin if we don't wake up NOW!!!!!
"I'm sure they should pop out at least 3 each."
In our immediate family circle, there are five men between the ages of 30-40. Only one has married and had children (2). If young men are not establishing households, there will be slim chances for your fond hopes.
OK, me and the wife had our three.
The rest of you out there - get busy.
In its "wisdom", the Western world is aborting and queering itself into extinction . . .
We have 11, two of them married and 8 grandchildren so far.
Yes, we have trouble making ends meet. Yes we have debts. No we don't have a lot of fancy toys and fancy cars or a fancy house.
But we have the challenges and rewards of a large family.
Forget about fancy houses and fancy cars and all the latest electronic toys and accumulating $$$$$.
The only things you can take with you when you leave this world are your memories, and the love of your family.
We know lots of people with large families, most of whom are better off than we are, and even better off than the smaller families in the area.
Forget about global warming, too.
If you want to see global warming, wait till the muslims inherit nuclear arsenals from the Euro-peon countries they are slowly taking over.
Yes, and one more thing: Stop having immigrants who are Muslim. We've done our bit for hospitality's sake and let lots of them in since 1965. It's perfectly kosher and polite to close the saloon for the night.
Meanwhile, overturn Griswold vs. Connecticut!
Could the world slide down into another "Dark Ages" period? It has happened before.
Some day the Library of Congress could be in flames.
Conversions may outpace demographics in America. Jihad.
"Meanwhile, overturn Griswold vs. Connecticut!"
Good luck with outlawing contraception. ;-D
Muslim birth rates are declining also, but demographics is a game of last man standing. And right now the last man won't be Western.
God bless you for thatbut is three our idea of a big family? Remember, we have to make up for people who want to have kids, but can't. And also for other non-jihadist Americans who are currently too screwed-up to realize it's what they should be doing.
Turban sprawl is the muslims plan to conquer America. They already have one member in the House of Representatives (thank you Minnesota, helluva job). What do you think when they have majority control of the democratic party?
And of course, demography undeniably becomes destiny; given current trends, it is but a matter of time until Muslims grow dominant in their numbers, and dominate much of the Earth.
But where the article fails, is to presume that the Christians of The West will ever resume producing children on a level commensurate to that at which the Muslims are reproducing.
They will not. In a free society, you cannot force people to produce more children than they wish to, nor prevent them from having none at all, if that is how they so choose. Well, you COULD "force them" to do so, but then it ain't gonna be a free society no more.
The "unspoken alternative" is that _Muslim_ birthrates must be effectively reduced to Western levels, by whatever means necessary. Or face the consequences.
By whatever means necessary.
Don't be to worried about a baby gap in the USA. look who is not having them.
I suggest an ad campaign featuring an announcer reading off the side-effects of the Pill. That may begin to wean people from the idea that tossing human pesticide into one's wife is somehow sexy.
And perhaps another ad, featuring a picture of scores of women in burkhas, next to a picture of a big, fat baby.
Over it, a headline: "What's in your futureTHIS OR THIS? You decide."
This is thanks to politicians who want more immigration of the wrong kind. The right policy would be to give a huge tax deduction for children and to close the borders to infestation from countries that sponsor terrorism.
I'm getting married in June. My wife (to-be) and I want four children. We're doing our part.
Outlaw islam and banish the crazies forever. Problem solved.
"that tossing human pesticide into one's wife"
I didn't realize that men made the decision about how their wives contracepted. Sounds like we're getting closer to Muslim-style decisionmaking in any case! :-/
BIRTH RATES OF MAJOR, PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM NATIONS:
Algeria 7.37 (1977) -> 1.86
Bangladesh 3.85 (1991)-> 3.09
Egypt 6.05 (1977) -> 2.77
Indonesia 5.76 (1966), 4.68 (1979) -> 2.37
Iran 6.2 (1986) -> 1.72
Libya 7.96 (1973) -> 3.21
Morocco 5.90 (1980) -> 2.62
Pakistan 6.92 (1987) -> 3.86
Saudi Arabia 7.59 (1974) -> 3.94
Syria 7.77 (1981) -> 3.31
Tunisia 4.51 (1984) -> 1.73
Turkey 4.87 (1978) -> 1.89
A lot of people presume France's birth rate is rebounding because of the Muslims in France. This is not true. Notice that French colonies such as Algeria and Tunisia have fertility rates LOWER than France.
These nations will have (or, have had) their birth rate drop below replacement levels (2.10) in the following years:
Egypt, unknown (c. 2040?)
Libya, unknown (c. 2040?)
Pakistan, unknown (c. 2040?)
Saudi Arabia, unknown (c. 2050?)
(The following are nations with large Muslim populations that were excluded because they were not predominantly Muslim: China, India, Nigeria, Sudan. Iraq and Afghanistan were excluded because of ongoing warfare.)
That's how the theory goes...
Let's say I have 10 kids and you have one. My offspring outnumbers yours 10 : 1. Big difference.
However, lets say each of my kids has only 2 offspring and each of their kids has two offspring and each of their kids has two offspring. After 4 generations (and assuming the last generation is the only surviving generation) I will have 80 descendants. On the other hand, if your one child has 4 kids and each of those kids has 4 kids etc etc, then after 4 generations you will have 64 offspring.
That's a situation of near equality starting from a 10:1 differential. And one more generation will see your descendants in the majority if those rates are maintained.
A facile example, I know but it gets the point across. Given the trouble Muslims cause when they constitute less than 10% of the population, I would say that they would have critical mass well before they reach an absolute majority.
What proof is there that the Muslim birthrate in Europe is exponential? I haven't seen any firm fertility rates for European Muslims- are they having 3 children a piece or 10? What is the birthrate for first versus second generation Muslim women in Europe?
Yes, and this has all happened before - in Rome, Greee, and other civilizations that considered themselves advanced.
"Those who do not learn from history, are forced to repeat it". ... Santayana
Thank you for your beautiful post! Most people today feel 'obligated' to limit the size of their families, to comply with societal norms. They neglect to consider the long term impact of such decisions, on their children.
My wife (to-be) and I want four children. We're doing our part.
How about .... "My wife and I plan to have, love and cherish the number of children God sends to us".
And, if you truly care about your wife (to be), you should discuss Natural Family Planning over the use of artificial contraceptives. (see some of the posts above about the effects of hormones on a woman's body).
May your new life together as husband and wife, be blessed with joy, and happiness.
Sheep are no match for wolves even when they outnumber the wolves.
We have to get rid of political correctness and multi culturalism, and deal with the real world. Show Islam for what it really is, as written in the Koran and Hadiths. - tom
Natural Family Planning is NOT a form of contraception. It does not actively thwart conception.
It is a form of birth control, as it requires control and allows for birth.
$$$ + primitive culture = trouble.
Four daughters? Yikes! I have a son Gary who is 25, a daughter Michelle who is 23 and a son Mike who is 22. I don't think I could afford clothes and shoes for four girls, or computers and cars for four boys! LOL I love them all, but kids sure are expensive! Michelle just graudated from UT in Dec. and Mike enrolled in Concordia Irvine in Jan. Hey it's only money!
We are seeing this in So. Cal. The illegals will outnumber everyone else by 2015. There are already many parts of LA that look like graffiti and gang encrusted Tijuana. Razor wire on top of 8 ft tall fences. Welcome to Americana.
but 10 children per family is not realistic even for Muslims. and it will still not happen in a generation. it is problem down the road for sure. But, it is still being exagerated.
There is one group of westerners that are known to have high birthrates and to get married . . .
PAGING WARREN JEFFS, PAGING WARREN JEFFS . . .
Big problems require tough solutions.
"Four daughters? Yikes! I have a son Gary who is 25, a daughter Michelle who is 23 and a son Mike who is 22. I don't think I could afford clothes and shoes for four girls, or computers and cars for four boys! LOL I love them all, but kids sure are expensive! Michelle just graudated from UT in Dec. and Mike enrolled in Concordia Irvine in Jan. Hey it's only money!"
Yup, all of ours is in high school. 15-16-17-18. I can never find my socks, makeup, deorderant, and forget about feminine products.
I love them all, but I can hardly wait for some alone time. LOL
My family at least replaced if not a bit more. I have three, my brother has one and my sister is having her fourth in August. I think my brother and sister-in-law will have one more. They were married seven years before having their first this past year...we will see.
Hispanics have lots of children.
There is a jam of baby carts here.
But I (and even most Mexicans) do not want to live in Mexico. At least Jeffs and his crew of fundamentalist Mormon zealots speak English.