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Gov Perry's HPV vaccination order angers pro-family group
GOPUSA ^ | February 6, 2007 | By Jim Brown AgapePress

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:46:59 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran

(AgapePress) -- A Texas pro-family group says Governor Rick Perry's executive order mandating HPV shots for schoolgirls entering sixth-grade not only usurps the authority of the State Legislature, but also the rights of parents. In addition, the American College of Pediatricians has recommended against the vaccine for young girls.

A conservative group in Texas is raising strong objections to Republican Governor Rick Perry's executive order mandating HPV shots for 11- and 12-year-old female students.

On Friday, Governor Perry signed an order that requires all Texas schoolgirls entering sixth grade to get Gardasil, Merck & Company's new vaccine against the Human Papilloma Virus, beginning in the fall of 2008. Perry says the vaccine gives Texas "an incredible opportunity to effectively target and prevent cervical cancer."

Perry's office contacted Texas Eagle Forum president Cathie Adams Wednesday and urged her to support the vaccination requirement, but she vowed to do everything in her power to defeat it. Adams explains her refusal. "He's replacing parents' rights with state's rights," she comments. "He's also usurping the authority of the State Legislature."

And there's more, says the Texas Eagle Forum leader. "We have a strong voice that has already said this is not a good vaccine for little girls," she says; "it's the American College of Pediatricians, who strongly opposes requiring students to have the HPV vaccine." Governor Perry, who in the past has received strong backing from conservatives because of his opposition to abortion and embryonic stem-cell research, says the cervical cancer vaccine is no different from the one that protects children against polio. But Adams notes there is no crisis, noting cervical cancer deaths in American women have dropped by 74 percent due to routine pap smears.

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I held my nose and voted for him the last election, The last time I will ever vote for the least evil.
1 posted on 02/06/2007 8:47:02 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

That's not the only issue, there is no crisis unless you (the average citizen I mean, not you HuntsvilleTxVet personally) are irresponsilbe sexually in your actions: There is a simple solution: DON'T HAVE SEX TILL YOUR MARRIED, ABSTINANCE.


2 posted on 02/06/2007 8:51:28 AM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
This is something I expect from DemonRATS. It's getter harder and harder to tell the difference between the two parties anymore.
3 posted on 02/06/2007 8:52:03 AM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Quid pro Quo?


4 posted on 02/06/2007 8:52:31 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: JSDude1

The problem is that I would prefer doing this to avoid health care cost issues years from now.

In a perfect world, kids would remain virgins, but that's not going to happen.


5 posted on 02/06/2007 8:53:39 AM PST by Perdogg (Happy 2007)
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To: JSDude1

It's hard enough for people to spell "abstinence", let alone accomplish it. ;)


6 posted on 02/06/2007 8:54:18 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

It's the usual Republican balancing act. Ordinary conservatives in their thousands and millions have the votes, but the money needed to run winning campaigns comes from Country Club Republicans and big corporations, in this case Merck.

This one strikes me as pretty stupid. I hope he got a LOT of money for this, because I think he has just killed his political future with this dumb move.

It's stupid of Merck, too. They are making an evil name for themselves. This is not good PR, and whatever money they make selling their drug will not be enough to balance the damage they are doing themselves.

I wish the big corporations and the Country Clubbers would learn to work with the voters on these things. But they seem to want what they want, and want it now, and as a result the necessary coalitions fall apart. That's what happened to the Simon campaign in California, which is the closest we came to taking that state back. The money people and the conservative voters just couldn't get together, and now we're stuck with Arnold.


7 posted on 02/06/2007 8:55:05 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
For those who are interested, [American ] College [of Pediatricians] States Position on HPV Vaccine from their Web site at http://acpeds.org/
8 posted on 02/06/2007 8:55:16 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: TexasCajun
An honest politician is one who stays bought.

Distinguishing between political parties on a basis of their respect for rights is rather like distinguishing between motorcycle gangs on a basis of their taste in beer. - Doug Caprette
9 posted on 02/06/2007 8:55:25 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I tried to contact the governor by phone; the mailbox is full and the main switchboard is constantly busy. It may be time to start talking recall election to get Perry to understand how much people are against his vaccination mandate.


10 posted on 02/06/2007 8:55:35 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran; ConservaTexan
I held my nose and voted for him the last election, The last time I will ever vote for the least evil.

I sent him an email telling him the same. I also told him I send no more money to the RNC, too many RINO's like him. I also told him it was certainly convenient for him to do this AFTER the election.
11 posted on 02/06/2007 9:00:14 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I take it that this was not part of his re-election platform? I'm sure if it was he would have been defeated.


12 posted on 02/06/2007 9:01:15 AM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Perdogg

Get a pap smear..it will save more money...but they didnt give any money to the guvvy


13 posted on 02/06/2007 9:06:29 AM PST by skaterboy
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I held my nose and voted for him the last election, The last time I will ever vote for the least evil.

We are going to have a national election & it too will be the lesser of two evils. I'll bethcha you will vote for one of these. Why would you be different than 98% of the people. As for me I would say today I will be voting a 3rd party for the 4th out of the last 5th national elections. Our votes in this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" only valid their corruption. I'm not going to participate in this fraudulent group as any true conservative will not get the nomination.

14 posted on 02/06/2007 9:06:49 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

A "pro-family" group agitating for an illness that destroys families. And, big surprise, the usual antivaccination rhetoric: a single instance of anecdotal data presented against the vaccination, but no mention of the research in favor of it. The idea that it will cause promiscuity. No mention of the painless internet opt-out, not even to dismiss it. The press release reports that the EO requires Gardasil by name, which is not true. Fascinating. Perhaps the state of science education in the country is worse than I thought. Politics certainly isn't helping it, in this case.


15 posted on 02/06/2007 9:09:32 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
We have a strong voice that has already said this is not a good vaccine for little girls

The American College of Pediatricians is a solidly conservative activist group, anti-gay marriage, pro-life, two-parent family kind of group.

Their statement on the HPV virus does NOT say this is not a good vaccine for "little girls". They simply say that you don't need it if you aren't having sex, so you shouldn't be REQUIRED to have the vaccine in order to attend school.

Being against forced vaccination should not be confused with claiming the vaccine is ineffective or dangerous, or is not recommended for some people.

Perry's proposal allows parents to opt out of the vaccination, so nobody is being forced to get the vaccination in order to attend schools. It's simply a strongly-worded recommendation, that might open up the vaccine to coverage by some medical plans that won't cover vaccines unless they are required by law.

16 posted on 02/06/2007 9:09:43 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

So he is ordering something even the docs arent ordering and can be helped if not stopped by routine health tests such as pap smears but he is doing it for the children!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 02/06/2007 9:09:52 AM PST by skaterboy
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To: Cicero

He only killed his future if the dozen people who would vote based on this one issue matter to the results.


18 posted on 02/06/2007 9:10:34 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NonValueAdded
The American College of Pediatricians recommends that parents use the availability of this vaccine to usher in a discussion of human sexuality in a way consistent with their culture and values at a time when they determine their child is ready to receive the information. Parents should closely monitor their children’s activities, reinforce their values, and consent to vaccination when appropriate. At that time, physicians should introduce the value of sexual abstinence as the only way to completely eliminate the risks associated with sexual activity.

From their statement.

19 posted on 02/06/2007 9:11:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JSDude1

Even if you're a perfect virgin when you marry, and have never even been kissed.. you can't guarantee that your husband was the same.

So there goes your argument.

Granted, I don't think it's fair to compel people to have the vaccination, but I do think it's a good idea to get the vaccination.


20 posted on 02/06/2007 9:11:59 AM PST by JerriBlank
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Should be angering pro-choice people too because this is certainly not allowing anyone a choice.
21 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:01 AM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: Perdogg
The problem is that I would prefer doing this to avoid health care cost issues years from now. <<

Great thinking!!...Lets put it to practical use..(Step 1)For the good of us all...I would prefer u commit suicide now to avoid health care cost issues years from now....

In a perfect world, kids would remain virgins, but that's not going to happen.<<<

In a perfect world you would remain healthy forever, but thats not going to happen...Return to Step 1
22 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:40 AM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Thank-you Eagle Forum!!....
..Please fight back for all of us...!!!
23 posted on 02/06/2007 9:15:23 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: Cicero

very astute post


24 posted on 02/06/2007 9:18:00 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: NonValueAdded

I'm not familiar with the ACP. Only the AAP.

Why did the ACP stand up? Why aren't those doctors just a part of the AAP? Difference of beliefs?

I don't expect you to necessarily know the answer to these questions. Just curious if anyone knows.


25 posted on 02/06/2007 9:19:02 AM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: M-cubed

bttt


26 posted on 02/06/2007 9:21:14 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: Digger
I just joined the Constitution party.

I will still vote in the republican primary as the smaller parties are shut out of the primaries.

I will vote only for the conservative candidates and or conservative platforms.

In the general election I will vote only for conservative candidates and write in a name or leave blank all left wingers.
27 posted on 02/06/2007 9:24:23 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Let's work to get this SOB impeached...I can't stand the site of that man on the TV news...he's a Bill Clinton in Republican garb.


28 posted on 02/06/2007 9:27:38 AM PST by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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To: ConservaTexan

I'm with you...let's get this started....


29 posted on 02/06/2007 9:30:04 AM PST by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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To: JSDude1

Nice try but obviously not very effective. If I had a dollar for every nice girl from a good family who had come in pregnant or with VD, I'd be long retired in someplace warm year round.


30 posted on 02/06/2007 9:30:52 AM PST by CholeraJoe (The only Americans who need to know where Syria is are the navigators on the bombers.)
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To: CholeraJoe

If I had a dollar for every girl from a bad family or a nice family who did not get pregnant( you do mean out of wedlock or do you consider pregnancy in and of itself a mark of shame?) or did not get VD, I would be far richer than you would ever be.


31 posted on 02/06/2007 9:37:41 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: JSDude1

I can't believe a governor in any state would mandate a vaccine like this, bypassing the legislature and the public. Sounds to me like he's in bed with Merck. Very bad for both the gov and Merck.

You are right, if you are not in a high-risk group for contracting HPV, then you don't need the vaccine. I hate those "one less" commercials on TV, with the young girls talking about the vaccine. I mean, it's like Merck is saying, "Look, these cute and innocent little girls will be having sex soon, so they need to be vaccinated!" Yuck!


32 posted on 02/06/2007 9:38:40 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Abigail Adams

Not to mention, should it technically be "one fewer"?


33 posted on 02/06/2007 9:48:48 AM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: ConservaTexan

I'm not sure I'm against it if there's an opt-out. I just wonder why they aren't suggesting quarantine for AIDS carriers,too.Isn't that more of a 'public health problem' ?


34 posted on 02/06/2007 9:49:09 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Perdogg
In a perfect world, kids would remain virgins, but that's not going to happen.

The vaccination gives life long protection. You're not suggesting that kids remain virgins... in perpetuity? If your kids will EVER have sex in their lives, they should probably get the HPV vaccine.

35 posted on 02/06/2007 9:50:02 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Is this guy really a conservative. He's more like an oily snakeoil salesman.


36 posted on 02/06/2007 9:53:08 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Alter Kaker
"This vaccine has no long term history, has had only a small clinical trial (2,000 women) and, although approved by the F.D.A., it has not yet been recommended for use by the C.D.C."

Mama Texan


Merk is fleecing Texas ,and may be putting young girls at risk. Most girls will not catch this disease.
37 posted on 02/06/2007 9:57:07 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: M-cubed
It's the parent's responsibility (and the child) not to have sex out of marriage. Having said, the State, has an interest in preventing the spread of HPV.

Just because the girls are getting vaccinated, should not be confused with a license to have sex. If the child believes it is, then the parents have failed.

If I go overseas this spring, I will need a Hepatitis A and Hepatitis B shots for my protection, not so that I can go out and have sex with hookers and do drugs.
38 posted on 02/06/2007 9:57:39 AM PST by Perdogg (Happy 2007)
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To: Rakkasan1
I'm not sure I'm against it if there's an opt-out.

If it is so important, then why let people opt their children out? Most parents will get a note from the school saying that their daughter needs a shot and will comply with no questions asked. They usually don't tell you that you can opt out, you have to find that out by yourself.

Q: Why do it by executive order?

A: To avoid public debate and defy the wishes of the people.

At over $300 a shot, and the vaccinations needing to be readministered every 3 or so years, think of the money that Merck stands to make from every female student in the state of Texas.

39 posted on 02/06/2007 9:58:00 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: JSDude1

Actually, that is a very wrong statement.

You can get it if your partner has had other partners and caught the virus. You can get it if your mother passed it to you in child birth.

I am not for making this vaccine mandatory (especially for young girls), but don't make false claims about how to get HPV.


40 posted on 02/06/2007 10:00:32 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Actually, the ACP is not merely saying you don't need the vaccine if you're not having sex. They also say that the studies are far too short to provide adequate data on either duration of protection or efficacy. "Because the average time between initial HPV infection and death from cervical cancer is 20 years, definitive conclusions about HPV vaccine efficacy will take years to establish."


41 posted on 02/06/2007 10:02:56 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: perseid 67
Most girls will not catch this disease.

80% of women will have contracted HPV at least once by their 50th birthday. Now only a small percentage of those will develop cervical, vaginal, etc. cancers related HPV, but the actual spread of the virus is enormous.

42 posted on 02/06/2007 10:04:06 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

Actually, the vaccine does not give life-long protection. So far, it is only 5 years. So it makes sense to wait until a girl is older.

At 10, she probably is not going to have sex in the next 5 years. At 15, she is much more likely to have sex the next 5 years.


43 posted on 02/06/2007 10:05:26 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Eroteme

Yes, but saying the vaccine will need a booster doesn't mean you shouldn't get it.

It means that you shouldn't give it to someone who is positive they won't be at risk for the next 10 years, because in 10 years they might have a better vaccine and so you won't have to do it twice.


44 posted on 02/06/2007 10:05:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ConservaTexan
hell, most people still have to be read their rights. I'm guessing this is well-intended, but short sighted.(like everything else do-gooder,nanny state gubmint attempts.)
45 posted on 02/06/2007 10:08:44 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The American College of Pediatricians is a solidly conservative activist group, anti-gay marriage, pro-life, two-parent family kind of group.

Thanks for clarifying this. I was surprised at first because it seemed an odd postion. After a search, I realized the main pediatrician group was the American Academy of Pediatricians. An indication of their take on Gardasil: "The Committee on Infectious Diseases (COID) of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) believes this vaccine provides a significant advance in preventive health care of girls and women and thus should be incorporated into the routine immunization schedule as soon as recommendations become finalized."

46 posted on 02/06/2007 10:14:15 AM PST by retMD
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To: Alter Kaker
If you had written by their 11th birthday, I might have been able to get on your band wagon. However, your statement indicates that much older women and girls are being exposed to this disease.

I still disagree with those who think this vaccine is well tested.
47 posted on 02/06/2007 10:14:26 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: luckystarmom

The American College of Pediatrics disagrees with you.

"The American College of Pediatricians is opposed to any legislation which would require HPV vaccination for school attendance. Excluding children from school for refusal to be vaccinated for a disease spread only by penetrating vaginal intercourse is a serious, precedent-setting action that trespasses on the right of parents to make medical decisions for their children as well as on the rights of the children to attend school. In addition, this vaccine prevents a disease which is exclusively sexually transmitted; mandating it as early as 9 years of age places the medical provider in an ethical dilemma."

http://acpeds.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=12&art=95&BISKIT=1956999049


48 posted on 02/06/2007 10:25:22 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: luckystarmom
Actually, the vaccine does not give life-long protection. So far, it is only 5 years.

Cite?

49 posted on 02/06/2007 10:25:35 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: perseid 67
If you had written by their 11th birthday, I might have been able to get on your band wagon. However, your statement indicates that much older women and girls are being exposed to this disease.

Teenagers are the most likely to contract HPV. But the point is that the vaccine is not effective if given after exposure. The odds that an 11 year old has been exposed are effectively nil.

50 posted on 02/06/2007 10:26:51 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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