Skip to comments.GOP Views Clinton As Virtually Unbeatable
Posted on 02/07/2007 5:48:59 AM PST by Mike Bates
What many conservatives regard as the nightmare scenario -- President Hillary Rodham Clinton -- is increasingly seen by veteran Republican politicians and strategists as a virtual inevitability.
In GOP circles, the Democratic front-runner is seen as so strong, and the political climate for Republicans so hostile, that many influential voices -- including current and former lawmakers, and veterans of President Bush's campaigns -- have grown despairing. These partisans describe a political equivalent of the stages of grief, starting with denial, then resentment and ending with acceptance.
For now, these Republicans say the party needs good luck, including a change of fortune in Iraq, and a revival of organization and leadership in the conservative movement to avert another Clinton presidency.
"If the conservative movement and Republicans don't understand how massive the Clinton coalition is, she will be the next president," former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said in an interview last week, after giving a private talk to GOP lawmakers. Clinton will win, he added, "if we don't use everything available to us and motivate our base, the people that believe in us."
In his closed-door comments to conservative House members, DeLay warned of the wealth and political potency of the Clinton fundraising network.
"We do have to get our act together, and I'd agree with Tom DeLay on that," said Rep. Steve King of Iowa. "At this point, short an inspirational Republican nominee, then I would agree that it's going to be very difficult to beat Hillary if she wins the nomination."
Those comments echoed those by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich last month on Fox News:
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Nothing like giving up early, is there? >:-P
This is exactly why we can't run a nominee who's only 25% more conservative than Hillary.
That rat looked one hell of a lot better pre-photoshop. Also note that you picked a male rat. Yuk, yuk,yuk.
Guess I don't know as much about 'Rats as I should. Have to work on that.
"if we don't use everything available to us and motivate our base, the people that believe in us."
And how exactly do you motivate a base that you've ignored and abandoned? Hmmmmm?
I've said it before, and I see nothing that changes it, HRC is the next president. And no one will be happy with the result.
We cannot give up. She is beatable. She has so much baggage they won't let her in a good hotel. We have to take off the gloves and get in there and fight. Remember the swiftboaters? No Mr. Niceguys there.
Of course Shrillary is beatable, given a competent GOP candidate who runs a competent campaign. As Rush said, she puts her pants on one leg at a time the same as any other guy.
I know this is like regretting the passing of the dinosaurs (i.e., they ain't coming back) but it wouldn't be such a depressing prospect if we at least had some media outlets that would do their jobs.
Say goodbye to the country we loved.
With the lack-luster field of Republicans currently running, there is NO hope (that's not "giving up early", it's REALITY) to defeat the Hildabeast.
With the MSM and the Looney Left having been drumming the Hildabeast tune into weak skulls for the past 7 years, and with constant fawning over her and keeping her name "in the news", while she avoids ANY hard questioning and is going to avoid every debate she can, there is no way to defeat her with those factors.
Unless some candidate appears, who is TRULY more conservative than any current potential nominee, you will have the Hildabeast in '08.
Let me guess; conservatives have to support frightened Big Government Republicans because the alternative is worse. So it's a choice between wuss and worse.
What a crock of total crap. The GOP views that harping beeyatch as no such thing. These MSM writers are in a circle jerk.
These Republicans are turning more idiotic by the day.
Of course this socialist, unlikeable witch known as Hitlery Rotten Clinton is beatable. If the Republicans
would have the spine to stand up for conservative principles, and articulate those principles, they, the
Republicans, could easily overcome a left wing demagogue
like madam Hillary. Go back to the core Reagan beliefs,
and stick to them, Republicans!
Well, they're right.
It's time to replace the RINOs in the GOP with someone who believes they can beat Hillary and has the guts to do it.
The ignored and abandoned have to make an effort also. They cannot continue to sit on their hands and cite their poor treatment. New people will be running for us. Never give up.
As usual with these "fabricated for our DNC masters" stories, I don't see the headline or the first line in any of the quotes from the story.
Who are the people who wrote this nonsense, and which republicans are they talking about? I'm not convinced that Hillary is going to get the dim nomination, let alone win the presidency.
Oh, I'm sure some folks - like those in Havana and Caracas - would be pretty pleased.
Whether we want to admit it or not, most of the electorate still gets their information from "traditional" media. The lamestream press will still be a powerful force in the '08 election. The media was absolutely desperate to elect a female Speaker of the House in '06, they pulled out all the stops to get one and succeeded. Likewise, they are desperate for a female President in '08, and they will do whatever it takes to get one. If they can't have that, they'll settle for an ersatz black President in Hussein Obama. Either way, the country will be in a world of hurt.
It's almost like the two Parties have already cut a deal.
Hillary's greatest supporters are single-issue conservatives who would refuse to vote because they disagreed with the GOP nominee on that single issue.
or is it easier for you to give up?
So we should just quit looking, cancel the primaries and head for the hills? Whatever.
BTW, I think Hillary looks like she is beaten every day... by an ugly stick.
"GOP Views Clinton As Virtually Unbeatable"
The GOP might as well be known as the French. They always surrender before the first shot is fired.
Yep, that's that old "can't do" spirit that the GOP leaders are famous for. That's why they couldn't do anything meaningful in the 12 years they were in power on the Hill, particularly the six years when they held both the Congress and the Presidency. What push-overs they are for Hellery and the Dems, who never doubt that they should be running the country and achieving their goal of socialism for the USA.
"She is beatable. She has so much baggage they won't let her in a good hotel."
Here is the problem: The MSM loves her, and her baggage won't be discussed, ever. Since the average American can barely tear themselves away from American Idol to watch the MSM evening news, most Americans won't know the real Hillary! until she's the president.
Very few of us thought she could be elected as a Sentor in an obvious move as a carpet bagger. She had virtually no connection to New York state, and she was elected.
MSM wants a woman or a minority as president, Hillary! will work for them.
Idiot dems think that getting Hillary! means getting Bill, and the still pine for Bill.
We are screwed. No one, either left or right, will be happy with her heinous Hillary!
No, sir. I will fight buy I'll not surrender. Somebody hands you a white flag? Paint stars and stripes on it and keep fighting. I refuse to be demoralized by a load of gutter trash like the democrat party.
Dick Army was on F&F this morning saying basically the same thing -- that the election (Nov 08) was Hillary's to lose.
GOP leadership seems to like being in the minority again and seem to be wanting to keep that designation.
Let me guess. Jeb Bush will step in to battle Hillary for the good of the nation and the war effort.
Hillary is "old news" as we discussed on another thread. I don't think she'll get the nomination.
Barring formidable scandalous stuff surfacing, I think that Pelosi will be the surprise nominee.
Clinton already has formidable scandaloous stuff on her resume. A dear friend of mine, further left than his congressman Baghdad Jim McDermott (D WA), tells me that the Clintons are detested by a lot of lefties. Surprisingly, for about the same reasons we detest them, including but not limited to Hill's well-known trysts with ladies in the Clinton administration, says friend, who is otherwise a staunch supporter of all gay causes. Who knew?
- stated that the war has to end by inauguration in 2009
- stated that she will appropriate oil company profits (that's socialism!)
I can't wait to hear what whopper she tells next!
Hehe, nice pics!
That WOULD be a surprise.
OK - how's about US doing a little of what it takes to get our man in? How about not bending over every time the clow car media chimes in? How about us stopping whining and maundering in public places about our poor chances? How about that?
I agree. My mom and I were talking about who was running so far. My reply: are these really my only choices? What would Reagan do? I really wish his mind hadn't gone. He would have been such a wonderful advisor for the GOP in the 90's... Heaven knows we could have used it!
If the Republicans lose to this creature they have no one, NO ONE, but themselves to blame.
And, as feckless, stupid, and craven as they (THE GOP) have been over the last six years, I wouldn't be surprised to see it.
She'll have to follow the bent one's advice and triangulate, posing as a centrist on important issues. (He is working behind the scenes, after all.) I'm betting she'll jump to the right of them on illegal immigration (it won't take much; some bogus fence-building and such, with plenty of hot air) and kick their asses.
1. Cut Spending.
2. Cut Taxes.
3. Reduce Size and Scope of Government.
In that order.
There is simply no reason that the amount of money spent by the government has to go up, year after year. We have all accepted this as the normal way of things. It need not be so.
In fact, it is entirely achievable for government spending to go down year after year, for quite a long time. Real tax relief will come from real government contraction. Without spending less, all the promises of tax relief are just smoke-and-mirrors.
It's hard to take any site that presents CBS news headlines as credible.
I can't wait to hear what whopper she tells next!
When she says she wants to confiscate profits, I don't think she's lying. She does.
Not if he wins NY, NJ, PA and Florida. Otherwise we could have another 2000 scenario in a battleground state. I'd rather have strong, decisive win.
"New people will be running for us. Never give up."
Sorry, it's a no win for the base. If we motivate, and elect Democrat-lite, the message to the Republicans is that we want Democrat-lite. And we will be fed a steady diet of Democrat-lite.
So, we just have to hope that the Democrats don't completely destroy the country while the Republicans regroup and figure out that most Americans are conservative and want conservative candidates.