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Veteran's account called into question (Joshua Sparling)
Fayetteville Observer Online ^ | Thursday, February 08, 2007 | Myron Pitts

Posted on 02/08/2007 5:30:55 PM PST by cf_river_rat

The peaceniks strike back.

Last week, I wrote about Joshua Sparling, a disabled 82nd Airborne Division veteran who says he was mistreated by anti-war protestors at a Jan. 29 rally in Washington, D.C..

Sparling and a few dozen others went to the National Mall to stage a counterprotest amid the tens of thousands of people denouncing U.S. involvement in Iraq.

Sparling says he was cursed at, called names and threatened with physical harm.

Since then, calls and letters have come in from the other side. A number of blogs and Internet sites have detailed Sparling’s activities, too.

All together, they paint a different picture of Sparling: It is a picture of a seasoned political activist, maybe even a conservative plant, who went out of his way to provoke anti-war protestors.

Jonathan Starling drove to D.C. from Fayetteville that Friday night. By 11 a.m. Saturday, he was watching speeches in a “pre-rally” sponsored by peace group Code Pink.

“Of the other 20-30 counter-protestors, Sparling was different,” writes Starling in a letter he sent via e-mail. “Others were across the street trying to drown us out with bullhorns.

“He (and one or two friends) came across the street to the front row yelling at the speakers within 20 feet of them. I spotted him quickly among the crowd as he was yelling and screaming and making the people around him very uncomfortable.”

Nevertheless, Sparling was allowed by the Code Pink group to speak and present his side of the issue, Starling says, and one of the peace activists even hugged him between speeches.

Debbie Liebers says she saw Sparling’s group later Saturday, when she was taking a break from rallying. She had come up on a bus that morning from Fayetteville with about 50 other people, including her 10-year-old son, Jacob.

“He’s a veteran of the peace movement,” she says.

Of her encounter with Sparling’s group, she says: “As soon as you walked up you saw this sign that said, ‘Hippies smell’ and it had a gas mask on the sign.”

She said the counter-protestors were disruptive and provocative. Spit or no spit?

When I first talked to Sparling, he mentioned that he was a friend of conservative radio and TV commentator Sean Hannity. That was by way of explaining how he wound up on Fox News, where he gave his side of the protest and also proposed to his girlfriend.

He is not exaggerating his connections. He has been linked not only to Hannity but to conservative figures Ann Coulter and Oliver North, and has participated in rallies with both. A steady stream of stories has detailed his alleged run-ins with liberal activists.

Sparling told me and several other media outlets, including The New York Times, that a protestor in D.C. had spit on the ground near him. The Times reported that Sparling spit back, which he denied when I spoke to him.

The whole account has now come very much into question, and reporters and bloggers who have looked into the incident can find no one to verify it beyond Sparling himself.

Liebers says circulating such stories is unproductive.

“We don’t need that,” she says. “We’re just ordinary people. All we want to do is end this war. We want to bring our soldiers home.”

Columnist Myron B. Pitts can be reached at pittsm@fayobsever.com or 486-3559.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: North Carolina; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: counterprotest; joshuasparling; kayak; scchapter

1 posted on 02/08/2007 5:30:56 PM PST by cf_river_rat
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To: tgslTakoma; kristinn; Doctor Raoul; JoyjoyfromNJ; trooprally

Looky here what showed up in the local fish-wrapper today.

Comments?


2 posted on 02/08/2007 5:32:28 PM PST by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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To: kristinn; Just A Nobody

PING


3 posted on 02/08/2007 5:34:59 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: cf_river_rat

The Activism topic sidebar is for activism, protests, news and business of Free Republic Chapters only.

Thanks.


4 posted on 02/08/2007 5:38:00 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: cf_river_rat
who went out of his way to provoke anti-war protestors.

It shouldn't matter. He wouldn't have been able to provoke them if they're as peacefull as they claim.
5 posted on 02/08/2007 5:39:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: cf_river_rat; Doctor Raoul

Yeah, and they never spit of returning Vietnam soldiers either.

I hate some people. And that's not a term I use lightly.


6 posted on 02/08/2007 5:39:40 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Admin Moderator
The Activism topic sidebar is for activism, protests, news and business of Free Republic Chapters only.

Sorry AM, sure figured this would qualify.

7 posted on 02/08/2007 5:40:50 PM PST by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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To: Admin Moderator; cf_river_rat
The Activism topic sidebar is for activism, protests, news and business of Free Republic Chapters only.

Thanks.

I guess where cf_river_rat got hung up was that this story is about what happened during an FR chapter "activism/protest event."

Should he put it in the NEWS sidebar instead?

Thanks.

8 posted on 02/08/2007 5:46:07 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: cf_river_rat
I saw this earlier today, and sent the writer an email regarding the one-sided investigation he did. I also gave him the links to the video I shot, with a short explanation of the things that are on the video which back up Josh's story (as well as the way the other vets and wounded soldiers were treated by the crowd).

No email reply from the fellow yet; but it's only been 9 hours.

:-)

9 posted on 02/08/2007 5:51:12 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma

Howdy!

Where can I view that vid/links?

Thanks!

-happi


10 posted on 02/08/2007 5:53:25 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: cripplecreek
The thing is, they are saying that Josh "provoked" them. He was telling them what he saw, what he had done in Iraq, and he was asking them if they didn't agree that the people of Iraq deserved freedom and the right to not be dragged out of their home and murdered on the whim of a dictator.

If there was any provocation, it was a provocation to think, not spit and curse and threaten him.

But apparently, in their small and intolerant minds, any "speech" which does not agree with their political position is provocative.

11 posted on 02/08/2007 5:57:18 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma

We, the counterdemonstrators and pro-American group who razzed Code Pinko and Jihad Jane were not "disruptive". We were vibrant, somewhat loud (the police asked that the bullhorns volume be lowered so that the Pinkos would not be disrupted, and the volume was lowered). However, our signs and voice power were certainly heard and seen, by hundreds of passerbys who honked their horns and waved.
Sparling was with us for a while and he was polite and gave interviews.
His missing leg was REAL. So was his 82nd Airborne t shirt.

Our group included two Vietnam war POWs, Mike Benge and Larry Stark. Both know something about Hanoi Jane, and Mike and I, as well as Col. Bud Day and Dolf Droge made a documentary about her communist background (in 1988 - "The Unofficial Autobiography of Jane Fonda").

This communist bitch and her red friends will never get a pass from us.

Max Friedman, Vietnam correspondent, Human Events, 1970.


12 posted on 02/08/2007 5:58:11 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Here's the links for YouTube version:
Vietnam Redux (Pt 1)
Vietnam Redux (Pt 2)
Vietnam Redux (Pt 3)

For those who want to watch it on Google, here's those links:
Vietnam Redux (Pt 1)
Vietnam Redux (Pt 2)
Vietnam Redux (Pt 3)

13 posted on 02/08/2007 6:00:29 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma

Thanks! I'll check those out!


14 posted on 02/08/2007 6:01:02 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: cf_river_rat
It is a picture of a seasoned political activist, maybe even a conservative plant, who went out of his way to provoke anti-war protestors.

So what? These 'peace-nuts' are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. They want everyone else to do what they are unwilling to do - swallow it when someone provokes them.

15 posted on 02/08/2007 6:03:06 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: cf_river_rat

Now wait a second. Sparling is a war hero. Is he being "swift boated" by the anti-war / pro Kerry crowd?

Of course the difference is, the swift boat vets were telling the truth.


16 posted on 02/08/2007 6:28:32 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Sarcasm is something a liberal cannot understand. Along with everything else.)
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To: tgslTakoma
I finally got to see the films. For whatever reason, I wasn't able to access them until now.

Thanks for all your hard work and perserverance. You are a real trooper!

17 posted on 02/08/2007 6:56:04 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: cf_river_rat
All together, they paint a different picture of Sparling: It is a picture of a seasoned political activist, maybe even a conservative plant, who went out of his way to provoke anti-war protestors.

He has all the hallmarks of a conservative plant. Military service, missing limbs due to combat and a purple heart.

His counterparts have a lilly liver, yellow streak and reap the benefits of never serving, like exercising their right to free speech as defended by "conservative plants".

18 posted on 02/08/2007 7:08:57 PM PST by pfflier
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To: cf_river_rat; Doctor Raoul; tgslTakoma

If this columnist won't respond to tglstakoma's offer to view the footage, maybe a telephone call to him and/or his boss? A letter to the editor with the video address? Failing that, what would be the cost of a small (business card size or maybe a little bigger) ad with the info?


19 posted on 02/08/2007 7:35:58 PM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

This guy has so much wrong, I don't know where to start.


20 posted on 02/08/2007 9:58:25 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
This guy has so much wrong, I don't know where to start.

Yeah! There was no pic of a gas mask on that sign, was there?

21 posted on 02/08/2007 10:12:11 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: cf_river_rat

Thanks for posting this, cf! I hope Josh has not washed his shirt and submits it for DNA testing!


22 posted on 02/08/2007 10:13:51 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Txsleuth

Thank YOU for the ping, sleuth!


23 posted on 02/08/2007 10:14:28 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: cf_river_rat

Jonathan Starling

Active Member
Professional Photographers - North Carolina


24 posted on 02/08/2007 10:25:15 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Just A Nobody

I was wearing a gas mask.


25 posted on 02/08/2007 10:34:28 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
;*) I know.....

Hey, you coming tonight? I have the best corned beef in the world for the guys, but I will save some for you. LOL!

26 posted on 02/09/2007 12:07:03 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

Looks doubtful.


27 posted on 02/09/2007 5:01:47 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: cf_river_rat
I'm going to add this link for anyone not familiar with Joshua Sparling's story :)

Joshua Sparling - 8,000 cards and counting!

28 posted on 02/09/2007 5:07:06 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cf_river_rat; tgslTakoma; Txsleuth

For anyone reading this thread, here are some phone numbers and email addresses I found on the paper's website. I'm not completely sure what the author's position is with the paper so I'm not certain who his boss is. He seems to have written 3 recent articles on one local topic, along with 2 pieces marked 'opinion'. NOTE--this article was printed under "local/state" NOT opinion!

Mailing address:
P.O. Box 849
Fayetteville, NC 28302

Our front desk is open from 7:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. Monday through Friday and 8 a.m. to noon Saturday. It is closed on Sunday and holidays
Main Switchboard: (910) 323-4848 or (800) 682-3476
To report an error in any of our news stories, call 486-3500 or e-mail newsroom representative Marci Huggins at hugginsm@fayobserver.com.
If you have a story idea, news tip or have a general question, call (910) 486-3500, e-mail news@fayobserver.com or fax (910) 486-3545.
Letters to the Editor, eletters@fayobserver.com
Military, military@fayobserver.comOnline

Area code for all numbers: (910)
Online general manager, Jon Bius, 486-3575, biusj@fayobserver.com
Publisher, Charles Broadwell, 486-3501, cbwell@fayobserver.com
Executive editor, Brian Tolley, 486-3503, tolleyb@fayobserver.com
Editorial page editor, Tim White, 486-3504, whitet@fayobserver.com


29 posted on 02/09/2007 7:01:01 AM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

Thank you very much..


30 posted on 02/09/2007 7:43:03 AM PST by Txsleuth
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