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Muslim executed for trying to "split" China
Reuters ^ | Fri 9 Feb 2007 | Benjamin Kang Lim

Posted on 02/09/2007 3:43:02 PM PST by jonassen

BEIJING, Feb 9 (Reuters) - China has executed a Uighur activist in a far-northwestern city for attempting to "split the motherland" and possessing explosives, drawing condemnation from a human rights group which said the evidence was insufficient.

Ismail Semed, who was deported to China from Pakistan in 2003, had told the court a confession had been coerced, but he was executed nevertheless on Thursday in Urumqi, capital of the predominantly Muslim region of Xinjiang, Radio Free Asia on Friday quoted his widow, Buhejer, as saying.

"When the body was transferred to us at the cemetery I saw only one bullet hole in his heart," Buhejer told the U.S. government-funded radio.

The exile group, the World Uighur Congress, said the prosecution had presented no credible evidence for a conviction.

"His trial, like most Uighur political prisoners' trials, was not fair," it said in an emailed statement.

A spokeswoman for the Urumqi Intermediate People's Court said a group of people had been executed on Thursday but said she had no knowledge of specific cases. The Xinjiang regional government declined to comment.

Turkic-speaking Muslim Uighurs account for 8 million of the 19 million people in Xinjiang.

The radio said the charge of attempting to split the motherland stemmed from the allegation that Semed was a founding member of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, outlawed by Beijing as a terrorist group.

But Nicholas Bequelin, Hong Kong-based China researcher of Human Rights Watch, said: "The death penalty was widely disproportionate to the alleged crimes ... his trial did not meet minimum requirements of fairness and due process."

"We don't think there was sufficient evidence to condemn him," Bequelin added.

China has waged a harsh campaign in recent years against what it says are violent separatists and Islamic extremists struggling to set up an independent "East Turkestan" in Xinjiang, which shares a border with Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Russia and Mongolia.

Buhejer met her husband briefly on Monday shortly after being informed of the decision to execute him, RFA said.

"(It was) only for 10 minutes" that they were allowed to meet, she was quoted as saying.

He told her to "take care of our children and let them get a good education". The couple has a young son and daughter.

Semed had previously served two prison sentences for taking part in a violent uprising in 1990. He fled to Pakistan after a Chinese government crackdown in 1997.

Two other Uighurs who testified against Semed were also executed, RFA quoted unnamed sources in the region as saying.

In a reference to another case currently in court in Urumqi, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said on Thursday Canadian diplomats had no right to be present at the hearing of Hussayin Celil, a Uighur accused by China of terrorism who was awarded Canadian citizenship two years ago.

Celil, also known as Yu Shanjiang, fled China in the 1990s and travelled last year to Uzbekistan, where he was detained and then extradited to China on terrorism charges.

He was cited in court documents related to Semed as a co-conspirator, Bequelin told Reuters. China has not recognised Celil's Canadian citizenship, obtained in 2005. (Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; eastturkmentistan; execution; islam; islamofascism; minorities; minority; muslim; persecution; prc; trop; uighur; uighurs; uighurstan; xinjiang
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1 posted on 02/09/2007 3:43:02 PM PST by jonassen
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To: jonassen

What a sad day when you have to look to the Commies for leadership on an issue.


2 posted on 02/09/2007 3:44:12 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: jonassen
--I saw only one bullet hole in his heart," --

--I was under the impression that the back of the head was the usual place for the bullet in Chinese executions--(better for organ transplantability, for one thing)--

3 posted on 02/09/2007 3:46:32 PM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: jonassen

Communism does seem rather Islamofascist-proof.

Troubling.


4 posted on 02/09/2007 3:47:25 PM PST by Stallone (Strangulation: RINOs Are Taking Triangulation Politics To A New Level)
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To: jonassen
He told her to "take care of our children and let them get a good education". The couple has a young son and daughter.

I guess China's One-Child Policy doesn't apply to Muslims in the country. Can someone confirm?
5 posted on 02/09/2007 3:48:28 PM PST by jonassen
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To: jonassen

The Uighurs aren't supposed to be seeking independence by force. The Communist government probably is just using the war against Islamofascism as a cover to continue to persecute people and keep them in line.


6 posted on 02/09/2007 3:48:30 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: samadams2000

Communist persecution of the Uighurs (or Christians while on the topic), is NOT something to be admired.


7 posted on 02/09/2007 3:50:16 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: jonassen
Two other Uighurs who testified against Semed were also executed, RFA quoted unnamed sources in the region as saying.

Haha boy they must feel stupid.
8 posted on 02/09/2007 3:51:02 PM PST by jonassen
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
The Uighurs aren't supposed to be seeking independence by force.

Yeah, and Islam is a peaceful religion. I have heard that the Uighurs used bombs in China during the late 80s and early 90s.
9 posted on 02/09/2007 3:53:53 PM PST by jonassen
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To: jonassen

I guess they must be Sunni Muslims because right now the Chinese are trying to court the Iranians, along with all our former allies.


10 posted on 02/09/2007 3:54:52 PM PST by Eva
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To: samadams2000

Where's the outrage? Where's the condemnation? Any country other than the USA can do whatever and no one cares. This is the attitude Bush should have taken a long time ago. No matter what you do, you'll get hammered, so you might as well earn the contempt. It's far easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.


11 posted on 02/09/2007 3:57:48 PM PST by Paco
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Communist persecution of the Uighurs (or Christians while on the topic), is NOT something to be admired.

The Nuke Mecca Crowd admires all persecutions that target Muslims.

12 posted on 02/09/2007 3:58:58 PM PST by zimdog
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To: jonassen

From what source--the Chinese government--or even more outlandish--NewsMax?


13 posted on 02/09/2007 4:00:10 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: jonassen

Just taking care of business the way business should be taken care of. "You hear that liberals"?


14 posted on 02/09/2007 4:01:48 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: rellimpank
The Chicoms probably noted that a good number of the leadership elite among the Islamofascists survive virtually direct bombings.

Taking no chances they did the old bullet in the heart trick.

15 posted on 02/09/2007 4:01:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: samadams2000

China's brutality is not something I want us to emulate, against Muslims or anyone else.


16 posted on 02/09/2007 4:03:47 PM PST by Nokia
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To: jonassen

>>BEIJING, Feb 9 (Reuters) - China has executed a Uighur activist in a far-northwestern city for attempting to "split the motherland" and possessing explosives,<<

You would think that would take a lot of explosives... China is really big.


17 posted on 02/09/2007 4:05:36 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Nokia

No I hear you both, just trying to find levity in the face of the islamic horror show.


18 posted on 02/09/2007 4:05:44 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Paco

There's no outrage from the muslim world because the Chinese have made it perfectly clear that it doesn't tolerate ANY form of secession. Basically the Chinese are saying, "you can worship a pedophile or a cow if you want, just don't f-- with my land." What Bush should be doing is also stamp his feet hard on the ground and tell the muslim world, "it's not about your religion, but if you f-- with America, you get f--ed." Apparently that message is being diluted by our dimwitted moonbats.


19 posted on 02/09/2007 4:07:37 PM PST by jonassen
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I know people that lived in Xinjiang for most of their lives. The Uygurs there can be extremely violent. This includes car bombs, murder, and armed attacks. One of the people I know personally witnessed armed Uygur hiding behind pregnant women as they attacked a government building.


20 posted on 02/09/2007 4:08:30 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: samadams2000

I'm serious--I take great comfort in the fact that the Chinese won't tolerate any fundy Islamic crap.


21 posted on 02/09/2007 4:09:58 PM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Dutch Boy
Appreciated.

Your [acquaintances'] personal experience with the region and its people is much more credible than the idea that simply because people are nominal Muslims, they must be hunted down and killed.

22 posted on 02/09/2007 4:19:33 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: Dutch Boy
The Uygurs there can be extremely violent. This includes car bombs, murder, and armed attacks.

People in Belfast say similar things about "The Protestants" but that doesn't mean that all Protestants are terrorists.

23 posted on 02/09/2007 4:19:44 PM PST by zimdog
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"Turkic-speaking Muslim Uighurs account for 8 million of the 19 million people in Xinjiang."

The ratio is less than that because the government is under-reporting the number of Han Chinese in the province.

In 1949 the Turkic-speaking Uighurs represented 60-80% of the population in Xinjiang, depending on locale.

The Marxist government's manner of development is to increase the number of Han Chinese in the province. Its the same slow (decades and centuries) ethnic cleansing by which the Han came to dominate central China in the first place. Ancient emperors or modern emperors, its all the same over the eons to "minorities" ruled by the Han.

Whether its the Uighurs in Xinjiang or the Tibetans, its all the same now just as it has always been.


24 posted on 02/09/2007 4:21:21 PM PST by Wuli
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To: zook

China will not blink an eye at eliminating muslim trouble makers. If they cause too much problem they will outlaw the cult and execute them for just belonging. Good for China, let these idiots act like terrorists over there and they will be selling their organs on the open market.


25 posted on 02/09/2007 4:28:06 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Wuli
To be fair, the Chinese Imperial governments generally assimilated the peoples that they took over--by the method you mention, sending a lot of their people to live in the conquered areas, and then slowly taking over the people and area culturally. That's why Han Chinese are by far the largest ethnicity (which is not genetic, but cultural) in the world, while the ethnicity has a lot of genetic variation among them (i.e. both North and South Chinese can be Han Chinese).
26 posted on 02/09/2007 4:28:38 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: oldenuff2no
[The PRC government] "will outlaw the cult and execute them for just belonging."

Sort of how they outlaw Christian denominations as "cults" and execute Christians "for just belonging?"

27 posted on 02/09/2007 4:30:24 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: jonassen
I guess China's One-Child Policy doesn't apply to Muslims in the country. Can someone confirm?

Ismail Semed, who was deported to China from Pakistan in 2003

Maybe he had the kids in Pakistan.

28 posted on 02/09/2007 4:33:36 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: jonassen

We're all awaiting CAIR'S response to this.


29 posted on 02/09/2007 4:34:31 PM PST by san juan
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To: zimdog
The Nuke Mecca Crowd admires all persecutions that target Muslims.

It's such a rare occasion, normally it's the Nuke Jews and Christians Crowd that get all the action.

30 posted on 02/09/2007 4:35:08 PM PST by xJones
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To: xJones

Have you really been here since 1999?


31 posted on 02/09/2007 4:39:25 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog

No, actually it was 1998, but I did a name change in 1999.


32 posted on 02/09/2007 4:42:54 PM PST by xJones
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To: zimdog
Do a search and you will find tons of information about Uygar ties to other terrorist groups and there violent activities. While there are many peaceful people there are plenty that are not.

If you want to see how peaceful it is walk around Wulumuqi (Urumqi) and see how safe it is. I would advise against it, as my Chinese friends have advised me.
33 posted on 02/09/2007 4:44:18 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: zook

I agree... we could learn a few things from the Chinese...


34 posted on 02/09/2007 4:45:44 PM PST by greenthumbedislndr
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To: Dutch Boy

My friends in Urumqi don't have any trouble.


35 posted on 02/09/2007 4:46:08 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zook

China will probably be the only country that will survive the muslim onslaught.


36 posted on 02/09/2007 4:46:35 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: jonassen
I guess China's One-Child Policy doesn't apply to Muslims in the country. Can someone confirm?

I believe China's "One-Child" policy applies only to Han Chinese and not the national minorities.

37 posted on 02/09/2007 4:47:54 PM PST by zimdog
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To: samadams2000

I thought it was funny :)


38 posted on 02/09/2007 4:57:34 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: Dutch Boy; zimdog

Urumqi also the capital of the region--and (guessing) its biggest city. A lot of big cities have a lot of crime. Outside of the city, it might be more peaceful?


39 posted on 02/09/2007 5:03:09 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: zimdog

They are lucky.


40 posted on 02/09/2007 5:07:10 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Paco
Where's the outrage? Where's the condemnation?

Aw, come-on! They aren't White, Christian, or Israeli--so all judgement must be suspended. On the flip side, I can't help but admire the Chinese tactics in this case.

41 posted on 02/09/2007 5:09:23 PM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: jonassen

BTTT


42 posted on 02/09/2007 5:12:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

No. The report is that if you're ethnic Chinese (even tourists), you have to be real careful in that province. It's not uncommon that tourists are attacked with handgrenades if you're ethnic Chinese, even if you're from the US (they really don't care). If you're white, you might be OK.

Obviously there are discrimination against hte Uighur by the Han chinese there (i.e. business will hire more han chinese than Uighur, etc.) But as far as violence goes, the Uighurs can be pretty violent, not all, but some. I have heard stories about hand grenade throwing as well.


43 posted on 02/09/2007 5:19:16 PM PST by canon5d
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To: rbg81
Aw, come-on! They aren't White, Christian, or Israeli--so all judgement must be suspended. On the flip side, I can't help but admire the Chinese tactics in this case.

Because the victims aren't "White, Christian, or Israeli"?

44 posted on 02/09/2007 5:20:07 PM PST by zimdog
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Yep.


45 posted on 02/09/2007 5:23:28 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Nokia

A voice of reason. Glad there are a few hear.


46 posted on 02/09/2007 5:24:42 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: zimdog; Dutch Boy

Touche'


47 posted on 02/09/2007 5:26:52 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: oldenuff2no

Interesting response. Can't wait to hear it when the Chicoms turn their guns on Christians again. Be careful what you wish for, fool.


48 posted on 02/09/2007 5:33:55 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: zimdog

No, because the perpetrators aren't White, Christian, or Israeli. The MSM and the International Rights groups turns a blind eye whenever atrocities are committed by anyone NOT part of the those groups. Because they know that if they made a stink, their heads would role next time they stuck their nose in the camel's tent.


49 posted on 02/09/2007 5:52:49 PM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: rbg81
No, because the perpetrators aren't White, Christian, or Israeli.

You're outraged because the perpetrators aren't White, Christian, or Israeli? The unscrupulous Chinee strikes again, eh?

50 posted on 02/09/2007 5:55:50 PM PST by zimdog
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