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Supreme Ignorance: ACLU’s Empty Establishment Claims (This is a serious hit piece)
The Federalist ^ | Feb 10, 2007 | Paul Madison

Posted on 02/10/2007 11:06:31 AM PST by AZRepublican

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To: gcruse
It depends on which version of the Commandments they used.

You are making a lot out of nothing.

I went to your reference, and found that they had the same substance. They were not in the same order, but they give the same instruction.

There may also be some differences because of translation differences, but that does not change the substance of what is being taught.

21 posted on 02/10/2007 12:02:03 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: AZRepublican

bookmark


22 posted on 02/10/2007 12:04:54 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Show them no mercy, for you shall receive none!)
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To: voltaires_zit

If the court was acting under Marbury v Madison than the ACLU could not exist.

"It is also not entirely unworthy of observation that in declaring what shall be the supreme law of the land the Constitution itself is first mentioned, and not the laws of the United States generally, but those only which shall be made in pursuance of the Constitution have that rank."


23 posted on 02/10/2007 12:06:48 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: AZRepublican

Any one thinking that the Ten Commandments are uniquely Christian needs to regroup. Last I read, the Ten were passed from God to Moses, an absolutely, positively, Jewish patriarch. The Commandments, being universally good for society and man, were taken into Christianity.


24 posted on 02/10/2007 12:08:21 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: gcruse
It depends on which version of the Commandments they used.

The site you reference is pure anti-Christian propaganda.

It says, "One of the best-kept secrets in the discussions on the Ten Commandments concerns..." (emphasis is mine) followed by information which is well known to anyone with the least knowledge of the Bible. All is stated as if this is some huge conspiracy.

Give us a break!

25 posted on 02/10/2007 12:14:25 PM PST by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: gcruse
That site lost all credibility with me on the 6th commandment citing thou shall not kill as the words.

The correct translation is thou shall not murder

Big difference.

26 posted on 02/10/2007 12:21:40 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: AZRepublican

Once you start throwing out centuries of settled law (which is what the argument against incorporation argues we should do) what makes you think you have the power to stop the yarn unravelling?


27 posted on 02/10/2007 12:27:34 PM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: voltaires_zit

The Rehnquist court had already started the unraveling of the incorporation theory. Many so-called settled precedents have been unraveled over time to bring law within the limitations imposed upon congress and federal judiciary by the letter of the constitution.


28 posted on 02/10/2007 12:37:59 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: sageb1

Are you kidding? Once the Muslims get enough votes in any community that's exactly what will happen. And the ACLU will lead the charge for Muslim rights.

There is already a PUBLIC high school in Dearborn, Michigan with a 99% Muslim population that has allowed "prayer rooms" for students to pray to Mecca five times a day.

Is anybody covering this? The ACLU in Michigan has no problem with it. It's just an "aspect of their culture".

You must understand that liberals have two standards, one for conservatives and twenty-five others for whatever else comes up.


29 posted on 02/10/2007 12:43:07 PM PST by kjo
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To: AZRepublican

They had no problem removing the crucifix on the California seal even though that was historical.


30 posted on 02/10/2007 12:47:13 PM PST by rbosque
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To: kjo

"Once the Muslims get enough votes in any community that's exactly what will happen."

Exactly. Which is why I brought it up. So, no, I'm not kidding.


31 posted on 02/10/2007 12:50:15 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: voltaires_zit
Once you start throwing out centuries of settled law (which is what the argument against incorporation argues we should do) what makes you think you have the power to stop the yarn unravelling?

Yup, Brown v Board of Ed certainly unravelled the yarn.

32 posted on 02/10/2007 1:12:19 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: voltaires_zit
Just a procedural niggle, really: once we overthrow 100 years of jurisprudence and toss out the idea of incorporation, shall we just go whole hog, throw out Marbury v Madison and get rid of judicial review altogether?

Idea of incorporation? Which idea would that be? The one that incorporates 5 Justices idea that the US Constitution prohibits a valedictorian from witnessing and then incorporate that to the states or the idea of incorporation that doesn't incorporate the second amendment to the states?

33 posted on 02/10/2007 1:16:56 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: AZRepublican
To understand just where the ACLU is coming from, in its assault on the continuity of American culture, see Left Wing Word Games & Religious Freedom.

The ACLU are, and have been, a serious threat to our institutions. They are not just a group of naive "Liberals."

William Flax

34 posted on 02/10/2007 1:25:16 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

I really enjoyed that link you provided, and have bookmarked it. Thanks.


35 posted on 02/10/2007 1:49:28 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: gcruse

Nothing against those who seek it legally.

Huge problems with those who come here illegally, and with those who play word games by calling illegal aliens "immigrants". Sophomoric.


36 posted on 02/10/2007 3:34:05 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: snowrip

The San Diego Union has taken to calling them 'entrants.'

Funny how that sounds so much like 'entrance.'


37 posted on 02/10/2007 4:15:35 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: gcruse

entrance

......in a trance

ahem


38 posted on 02/10/2007 5:14:52 PM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: AZRepublican

BTTT!


39 posted on 02/10/2007 7:21:25 PM PST by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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