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Obama wins hearts, minds of these two Republicans
Capital Times ^ | 2-10-07 | Rob Zaleski

Posted on 02/10/2007 4:27:18 PM PST by SJackson

She not only is a lifelong Republican, but an anti-big government conservative Republican who campaigned for Robert Dole in 1996. Oh, and one other thing. The mere thought of Hillary Clinton becoming president makes her stomach churn.

As her husband, Robert Stross - also a conservative Republican - puts it, "We don't believe anything Hillary says, and we think she'll do whatever it takes to get elected."

All of which makes the Madison couple's recent decision all the more intriguing: They've joined the Wisconsin chapter of DraftObama.org, a grassroots movement to help the progressive Democratic senator from Illinois win the presidency in 2008. Wann says she even hopes to campaign for Obama after he officially becomes a candidate today.

Why Obama?

All sorts of reasons, said Wann, 40, and Stross, 38, in a recent interview at a Monroe Street coffee shop, just a few blocks from their home.

Foremost, they've heard him speak a number of times and think he's "an incredible orator," Stross says. "And if he does half the things he talks about doing, it will be a wonderful thing."

Adds Wann, "We feel Obama's more in touch with what the true American is really about. As opposed to a president who came from a very rich family and went to Yale and was always kind of sheltered and given everything he wanted.

"I also feel Obama is more patient, and that he really listens to what people say. And I think he'd inspire people, much like (John) Kennedy did."

Most important of all, Wann says, Obama seems sincere about wanting to unite the country. As opposed to Hillary, "who would polarize us even more."

Stross and Wann, who met in Chicago in 1999 and have lived in Madison since their marriage in August 2001, emphasize that they don't agree with all of Obama's positions. For instance, they still have misgivings about his universal health care proposal.

"Having grown up in England, I think universal health care gets a little George Orwellian," Stross says. "It's like, 'Oh, I'm sorry Robert. You're a little too old for a kidney, so we're going to put you on the never-get-one waiting list.' In other words, there are pros and cons to it."

That said, Stross and Wann agree that something must be done to fix the U.S. health care system. They find it disgraceful that there are 46 million Americans without insurance and outlandish that many small businesses can no longer afford to provide health care coverage for their employees.

Stross, who until recently was an independent businessman (he's about to start a management job with a company in the energy field), notes that he and Wann currently have just catastrophic coverage, which costs $400 a month. That means that none of the maternity costs from the recent birth of their son, James, was covered.

"So we're looking at a bill of $12,000," he says.

To be sure, those aren't the only reasons the couple's decided to switch their support to a Democrat.

They believe the Republican Party's been hijacked by the Religious Right and say it's become obsessed with hot button issues like abortion and gay marriage. (The couple are pro-choice and support gay marriage.)

"A true Christian doesn't wear their religion on their sleeve or try to force their views on somebody else. They go about their business quietly," Stross says.

They're outraged by all the lies and distortions the Bush administration used to manipulate public opinion and justify its invasion of Iraq.

And even though there are more women in Congress than ever before, the couple believe the country is still run by an "old boys club" that's been around forever and gets its marching orders from big-money corporate interests.

"It kind of scares me when I look at old pictures of Nixon and there's Cheney sitting right next to him," Wann says. "It's like, whoa! Seems almost incestuous."

Her husband nods.

"I don't know who this Karl Rove guy is - he's not elected to anything, is he?" Stross says with a wry smile. "But apparently he's got his fingers in everything. And, frankly, it's very annoying because this is what all our liberal friends have been saying."

It's true, Stross and Wann acknowledge, that the 45-year-old Obama lacks experience, having served just seven years in the Illinois Senate and two years in Congress. But, they point out, Kennedy lacked experience when he ran for president in 1960 and was even younger (43) than Obama.

Besides, lacking experience today is almost a plus, Wann says. "It means he hasn't been in Congress long enough to be corrupted."

But, realistically, can Obama actually win in 2008?

Yes, Stross and Wann say - especially if blacks embrace his candidacy and vote in large numbers.

The bigger question, they suggest, is whether the Democratic power brokers will allow a free thinker like Obama to get the party's endorsement.

"I really feel like Hillary will get the nomination," Wann says. "And if that happens, it will be truly frightening."

And Stross?

"If Obama wins the nomination, I predict he'll become president."

Pause.

"But it's an awfully big if."


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Well, they certainly have the talking points down.

he's "an incredible orator,"

if he does half the things he talks about doing, it will be a wonderful thing."

We feel Obama's more in touch with what the true American is really about

I also feel Obama is more patient, and that he really listens to what people say.

Obama seems sincere about wanting to unite the country

the Republican Party's been hijacked by the Religious Right

It kind of scares me when I look at old pictures of Nixon and there's Cheney sitting right next to him…almost incestuous

I don't know who this Karl Rove guy is - he's not elected to anything

Sound like Obama Republicans to me.

Honestly, progressives should be able to do better than this.

1 posted on 02/10/2007 4:27:20 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

All I've seen out of Obama so far is the same tired old retread class warfare mantra. Any real republicans would see through it.


2 posted on 02/10/2007 4:29:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: SJackson

But...but..it says they're conservative Republicans so it must be true!


3 posted on 02/10/2007 4:30:06 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: SJackson
"Reagan democrats" were real, "Obama republicans" are a figment of this writer's imagination. This is the biggest pile of crap I've read in a long time.
4 posted on 02/10/2007 4:30:49 PM PST by Jean S
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To: SJackson

You will read endless puff pieces on Obama from now until 2008 election day. The only hope is that you won't have to hear them after that day.

What a crock.....


5 posted on 02/10/2007 4:31:39 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: SJackson

What shallow fools!!


6 posted on 02/10/2007 4:33:04 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: SJackson

We feel Obama's more in touch with what the true American is really about


I also feel Obama is more patient, and that he really listens to what people say.
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Note the word "feel". No thinking here. So far endless platitudes don't encourage thinking, only feeling.

Stross, who until recently was an independent businessman (he's about to start a management job with a company in the energy field), notes that he and Wann currently have just catastrophic coverage, which costs $400 a month. That means that none of the maternity costs from the recent birth of their son, James, was covered.

"So we're looking at a bill of $12,000," he says.

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I spent over 20K to adopt a child, I didn't whine that someone else should pay the bill. Why should my taxes pay for your delivery?


7 posted on 02/10/2007 4:33:18 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: SJackson

I, for one, would prefer they change their registration and make it official.


8 posted on 02/10/2007 4:33:33 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: SJackson
Foremost, they've heard him speak a number of times and think he's "an incredible orator," Stross says.

Incredible orator? lol....will he "build great roads" as well?

9 posted on 02/10/2007 4:33:43 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SJackson

I'm calling bullshit.


10 posted on 02/10/2007 4:33:54 PM PST by Comus (There is no honor in dying with your sword sheathed)
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To: SJackson
I waiting for the OBAMA souffle to deflate. People can only project this much hype on an elegant but empty suit.
11 posted on 02/10/2007 4:34:26 PM PST by Jagman (I drank François Rabelais under the table!)
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To: SJackson

Obama compares himself with the slavery issue only he's a liar of huge proportions just like the hildebeast.


12 posted on 02/10/2007 4:35:09 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Comus

Adds Wann, "We really like his ears."


13 posted on 02/10/2007 4:36:19 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: SJackson
Am I the only person who thinks Her THighness Hillary and Obama will lose the democrat nomination to Bill Richardson?
14 posted on 02/10/2007 4:36:24 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: SJackson

OMG....""I also feel Obama is more patient, and that he really listens to what people say. And I think he'd inspire people, much like (John) Kennedy did." BARF!


15 posted on 02/10/2007 4:36:42 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Just remember, fully HALF of the people you encounter in life are below average.)
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To: SJackson

Sounds like the seminar callers on Rush to me. "I've always been a Republican, but..."


16 posted on 02/10/2007 4:36:43 PM PST by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: SJackson
LOL, hilarious, another "they think we are stupid" faux article.

I swear I have read it before with different names inserted as the "Republicans".

I will bookmark to compare to the next 100 we will see before 08.
17 posted on 02/10/2007 4:36:51 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: SJackson
This article is the biggest load of doo-doo. These so-called conservative Republicans didn't bother to look at Obama the "Progressive Senator"'s Socialist voting record. Dole is a moderate, not a conservative. "Hijacked by the Religious Right". Yeah. Uh huh. All the cliche's are there. And on and on.

By the way, you forgot the barf alert.

18 posted on 02/10/2007 4:37:19 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: SJackson

"And even though there are more women in Congress than ever before, the couple believe the country is still run by an "old boys club" that's been around forever and gets its marching orders from big-money corporate interests."

Well, these two RINOs got that part right, at least. There's no way in h-e-double-toothpicks that either a "man of color" or a "woman" (and that's in quotes due to who we're dealing with here) will ever be President until we run out of rich, white guys. :)


19 posted on 02/10/2007 4:37:49 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Am I the only person who thinks Her THighness Hillary and Obama will lose the democrat nomination to Bill Richardson?

As a New Mexican, I think that's iffy....there has been so much in his past that can be documented, and he has done a horrible job as governor, in spite of what the press says about him.

20 posted on 02/10/2007 4:39:07 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Just remember, fully HALF of the people you encounter in life are below average.)
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To: Comus

Let's track 'em down. They're seminar.


21 posted on 02/10/2007 4:39:26 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: SJackson

"an incredible orator,"



Dear God in Heaven. We cannot underestimate this. I have heard from many people that they want to vote for Obama because he is an awesome speaker. I have tried to get them back on issues, but man it is hard. People are so shallow when picking a President sometimes.


22 posted on 02/10/2007 4:40:22 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: lilylangtree

The Dem candidates are betting heavily that the Iraqi spiral will reach critical mass by Autumn 08, and as far as I can see, that's a pretty good bet.


23 posted on 02/10/2007 4:40:40 PM PST by soupcon
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To: mariabush

When he started making thinly veiled Lincoln comparisons today I got downright PI$$ED.

I've read Lincoln, I've studied Lincoln and believe me Mr Obama YOU"RE NO LINCOLN!


24 posted on 02/10/2007 4:40:44 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: SJackson
She not only is a lifelong Republican, but an anti-big government conservative Republican....

But supports that oily socialist scumbag Obama?? 'Heads' she's a liar, 'tails' she's an idiot.
It HAS TO BE one or the other.

25 posted on 02/10/2007 4:41:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: traderrob6
Adds Wann, "We feel Obama's more in touch with what the true American is really about.
As opposed to a president who came from a very rich family and went to Yale
and was always kind of sheltered and given everything he wanted.
"

FUTURE DNC SUBTITLE: Pres. Lincoln at his Madrassa

26 posted on 02/10/2007 4:42:27 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: FlyVet

Time will tell, but I think that America is changing right out from under us.

Of course this whole article is a Troll from the very first capital letter to the last period.


27 posted on 02/10/2007 4:43:05 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: greyfoxx39
I know he is scum but when has that stopped the democrats!
28 posted on 02/10/2007 4:43:42 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: SJackson

These people are from Wisconsin. 'Nough said.


29 posted on 02/10/2007 4:44:09 PM PST by gesully (gesully)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"And even though there are more women in Congress than ever before, the couple believe the country is still run by an "old boys club" that's been around forever and gets its marching orders from big-money corporate interests."

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Since announcing his candidacy for the Illinois Senate seat, Obama has raised the astonishing sum of nearly $21 million and has built close relationships with a number of traditional fat-cat donors.

Individual contributors to Obama include some of the best-connected lobbyists in town, including Jeffrey Peck (whose clients include MasterCard, the Business Roundtable, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce) and Rich Tarplin (Chevron, the American Petroleum Institute, and the National Association of Manufacturers).

http://www.harpers.org/sb-a-little-bit-more-on-obama-1161881683.html

New face, same old big-money interests sending marching orders.


30 posted on 02/10/2007 4:44:26 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: SJackson
"the Republican Party's been hijacked by the Religious Right"

Yeah, Rudy Gulianni Card carring member of the "Religious Right"

These people are baked.

31 posted on 02/10/2007 4:45:18 PM PST by right way right (bummer. It's almost as bad as being born in a manger. You gotta start somewhere.( www.gohunter08.com)
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To: darkangel82

Yep -- seminar callers.


32 posted on 02/10/2007 4:45:22 PM PST by soccermom
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To: SJackson
Madison republican?

I think the only qualification to be classified a Rep there is to have had fewer than 3 abortions, looked at a gun in a magazine once,and be faithful to your same sex life partner for 6 full months.
33 posted on 02/10/2007 4:45:55 PM PST by Beagle8U (Fred Thompson......Your party needs you !)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Am I the only person who thinks Her THighness Hillary and Obama will lose the democrat nomination to Bill Richardson?

No. I'm with you. I breathed a sigh of relief, too, the week he decided to give it a try. Why? I think he could actually govern, even if the Repubs won back the congress. And he loves America as we know it. The two dems currently ahead would love nothing better than to end America as we know it.

Lastly, the conservative movement pretty much sucks eggs right now, and we stand to lose the White House. If we do, the lesser evil, by far, is Richardson. With him in the WH, I would at least not have to find a place to blow chunks every day. W/ either the hildabeest or hussein, I'm afraid I'd toss a lot of cookies in 4 years' time.

So, part of my agreeing with you is wishful thinking. Why don't you enlighten and encourage me some more by providing some of your thinking on the matter?

34 posted on 02/10/2007 4:46:28 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: greyfoxx39
Okay. Here's my critique: these two live in Madison, which is probably one of the most liberal cities in the US. Also, they cite John Kennedy, how Obama is "just like him". Well, sorry, but JFK was dead four years before the oldest of these two were born. Then the article cites that Obama and JFK's experience are comparable. Wrong again. Obama has two years in the Senate, 7 in a state house seat. Before elected President, JFK had three terms in the US House of Representatives, six in the US Senate, and had run for VP in 1956.

These two are slathered up with more crap than a Christmas turkey. And if they are "lifelong" Republicans, well then I flew to the moon on an Apollo mission.

35 posted on 02/10/2007 4:48:14 PM PST by tenthirteen
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To: SJackson
Adds Wann, "We feel Obama's more in touch with what the true American is really about. As opposed to a president who came from a very rich family and went to Yale and was always kind of sheltered and given everything he wanted.

This is hilarious. I guess a guy from a very rich family who went to Harvard is different.

36 posted on 02/10/2007 4:48:51 PM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: SJackson; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave


Was it algore who dug up the radical nutcase women who collected bottles besides the roads?

He invented all these screwy stories - or worse - actually found some

O'Bomber claimed in his first epic book that his father, Baraka Hussein Obama Sr. grew up in poverty and hunger in a tin shack in Kenya

Truth is O'Bomber Jr.'s daddy really grew up on his wealthy farmer-father's huge plantation in Kenya - and both were tied to the now-banned Mau Mau terrorists

"Can you believe me now?"

"Am I still selling and using cocaine now?"

"I was a Muslim for 31 years but now I'm a Christian centrist!"

"I've really quit smoking so all of those photos of me chain-smoking now are all Photo-Shopped!"



37 posted on 02/10/2007 4:49:58 PM PST by devolve ( ........"refresh" my (updated) graphics posts)
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To: SJackson
"I also feel Obama is more patient, and that he really listens to what people say. And I think he'd inspire people, much like (John) Kennedy did."

Dude (or Dudette), you've really got to be more conscientious about the barf alerts on these postings. Please.

38 posted on 02/10/2007 4:50:46 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: JeanS

you obviously haven't read the divorce decree my ex originally wanted me to sign..now THAT was a piece of crap..


39 posted on 02/10/2007 4:50:57 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider.....www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: garv
I am waiting for the main stream news papers to start their editorial cartoons portraying BHO with huge ears like they do President Bush...
40 posted on 02/10/2007 4:52:19 PM PST by JoanneSD
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To: SJackson
and think he's "an incredible orator,"

Good thing they didn't call him articulate --- that would have been racist.

41 posted on 02/10/2007 4:52:44 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Time will tell, but I think that America is changing right out from under us.

Yes, time will tell, and soon. Call me crazy, but I suspect a spiritual darkness befalling the land. As they say, we get the government we deserve, and there seems a willingness to continue the drift to the left. I am pessimistic. We can hope that Pelosi & Co. will seriously screw things up the next two years and that people will wake up.

This disclosure of the NIE to all members of the House, well, we might as well broadcast it on CNN. These clowns can't keep their mouths shut, they are unaccountable, and they are going to get a lot of good foreign agents killed.

42 posted on 02/10/2007 4:52:48 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: SJackson
They say they're Republicans? Wonder how much Obama's people paid them to say it?
43 posted on 02/10/2007 4:53:11 PM PST by Taichi
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To: SJackson
I just love when the Drive Bys/MSM find liberal Republicans AKA RINOs and misleadingly describe them as "conservatives." ROFL! Any Freeper knows Barack Obama has a LIBERAL voting record to the LEFT of Hillary Clinton! I don't know where the media found this pair but no true conservative is going to be seduced by Obama's spell because no true conservative can even contemplate backing a LIBERAL! 'Nuff said.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 02/10/2007 4:53:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tenthirteen
JFK had three terms in the US House of Representatives, six in the US Senate, and had run for VP in 1956.

I agree with the premise of your critique; but JFK merely gave a brilliant keynote address at the 1956 convention and was named as a favorite son candidate of his state, as was customary in those days (states did that in order to hold their delegates in reserve for purposes of "kingmaking"). Estes Kefauver ran for VP that year. Again, this is not to nitpick or to disagree with the rest of what you said (or the sentiment behind it). Just FYI.

45 posted on 02/10/2007 4:54:15 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
No sir, you are not. In my opinion he is the sleeper in this race and the Dems have a history of toasting their own front runners. While Hillary and Obama duke it out for the "suit of the month" Richardson is going to be building his base.
46 posted on 02/10/2007 4:54:44 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: JoanneSD

Please don't go on a hunger strike waiting that would be very bad for your health.


47 posted on 02/10/2007 4:54:51 PM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: devolve

Oh man, that last line is the worst, lol, gonna get him banned all over the USA!

Snicker..


48 posted on 02/10/2007 4:55:48 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Mr. Mojo
will he "build great roads" as well?

And also very important, will the trains run on time?

49 posted on 02/10/2007 4:56:09 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: SJackson
Obama wins hearts, minds of these two Republicans

Somebody, somewhere, thinks that true republicans are so gullible and so stupid as to believe a story such as this.

Next they'll be selling us on a story about Ahmadinegad and Bin-Laden being the only hope for America's survival and future..
50 posted on 02/10/2007 4:57:14 PM PST by adorno
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