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Cosmic Rays Blamed For Global Warming
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-11-2007 | Richard Gray

Posted on 02/10/2007 6:38:21 PM PST by blam

Cosmic rays blamed for global warming

By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 1:08am GMT 11/02/2007

Man-made climate change may be happening at a far slower rate than has been claimed, according to controversial new research.

Scientists say that cosmic rays from outer space play a far greater role in changing the Earth's climate than global warming experts previously thought.

In a book, to be published this week, they claim that fluctuations in the number of cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere directly alter the amount of cloud covering the planet.

High levels of cloud cover blankets the Earth and reflects radiated heat from the Sun back out into space, causing the planet to cool.

Henrik Svensmark, a weather scientist at the Danish National Space Centre who led the team behind the research, believes that the planet is experiencing a natural period of low cloud cover due to fewer cosmic rays entering the atmosphere.

This, he says, is responsible for much of the global warming we are experiencing.

He claims carbon dioxide emissions due to human activity are having a smaller impact on climate change than scientists think. If he is correct, it could mean that mankind has more time to reduce our effect on the climate.

The controversial theory comes one week after 2,500 scientists who make up the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change published their fourth report stating that human carbon dioxide emissions would cause temperature rises of up to 4.5 C by the end of the century.

Mr Svensmark claims that the calculations used to make this prediction largely overlooked the effect of cosmic rays on cloud cover and the temperature rise due to human activity may be much smaller.

He said: "It was long thought that clouds were caused by climate change, but now we see that climate change is driven by clouds.

"This has not been taken into account in the models used to work out the effect carbon dioxide has had.

"We may see CO2 is responsible for much less warming than we thought and if this is the case the predictions of warming due to human activity will need to be adjusted."

Mr Svensmark last week published the first experimental evidence from five years' research on the influence that cosmic rays have on cloud production in the Proceedings of the Royal Society Journal A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences. This week he will also publish a fuller account of his work in a book entitled The Chilling Stars: A New Theory of Climate Change.

A team of more than 60 scientists from around the world are preparing to conduct a large-scale experiment using a particle accelerator in Geneva, Switzerland, to replicate the effect of cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere.

They hope this will prove whether this deep space radiation is responsible for changing cloud cover. If so, it could force climate scientists to re-evaluate their ideas about how global warming occurs.

Mr Svensmark's results show that the rays produce electrically charged particles when they hit the atmosphere. He said: "These particles attract water molecules from the air and cause them to clump together until they condense into clouds."

Mr Svensmark claims that the number of cosmic rays hitting the Earth changes with the magnetic activity around the Sun. During high periods of activity, fewer cosmic rays hit the Earth and so there are less clouds formed, resulting in warming.

Low activity causes more clouds and cools the Earth.

He said: "Evidence from ice cores show this happening long into the past. We have the highest solar activity we have had in at least 1,000 years.

"Humans are having an effect on climate change, but by not including the cosmic ray effect in models it means the results are inaccurate.The size of man's impact may be much smaller and so the man-made change is happening slower than predicted."

Some climate change experts have dismissed the claims as "tenuous".

Giles Harrison, a cloud specialist at Reading University said that he had carried out research on cosmic rays and their effect on clouds, but believed the impact on climate is much smaller than Mr Svensmark claims.

Mr Harrison said: "I have been looking at cloud data going back 50 years over the UK and found there was a small relationship with cosmic rays. It looks like it creates some additional variability in a natural climate system but this is small."

But there is a growing number of scientists who believe that the effect may be genuine.

Among them is Prof Bob Bingham, a clouds expert from the Central Laboratory of the Research Councils in Rutherford.

He said: "It is a relatively new idea, but there is some evidence there for this effect on clouds


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KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; cosmic; globalwarming; globalwarmingonmars; rays
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1 posted on 02/10/2007 6:38:24 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

You have any extra tin foil? My beanie is a little thin..


2 posted on 02/10/2007 6:43:21 PM PST by Dog
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To: blam

What's more, the magnetic field of the Earth is weakening dramatically as the planet nears the time when the poles flip. As the magnetic field weakens, less ionized energy from the solar wind is deflected from the Earth. So, the sun may not be burning hotter. Rather, our instruments may be detecting more energy reaching them because the magnetic field of the Earth is deflecting less.

Or both may be happening at once, which may well mean a blistering future for us all, without any human input whatever.

Or not.


3 posted on 02/10/2007 6:44:48 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Dog
Scientists say that cosmic rays from outer space play a far greater role in changing the Earth's climate than global warming experts previously thought.

Yeah, but its Bush and his big oil buddies who control the cosmic rays.

4 posted on 02/10/2007 6:45:58 PM PST by Smedley
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To: blam
Chris Harra clears snow from a roof in Mexico, N.Y., Friday, Feb. 9, 2007. Nearly 100 inches of snow have buried Oswego county, with more on the way, and the governor has declared a disaster.


5 posted on 02/10/2007 6:46:37 PM PST by D-Chivas
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To: blam
If so, it could force climate scientists to re-evaluate their ideas about how global warming occurs.

Yeah, just like carbon dating the Shroud of Turin forced Christians to re-evaluate their religion.

6 posted on 02/10/2007 6:47:18 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Smedley
He said: "Evidence from ice cores show this happening long into the past. We have the highest solar activity we have had in at least 1,000 years.

Also Bush's fault.

7 posted on 02/10/2007 6:48:04 PM PST by Smedley
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To: Vicomte13
What's more, the magnetic field of the Earth is weakening dramatically as the planet nears the time when the poles flip.

Again, Bush's fault!!!!

8 posted on 02/10/2007 6:49:41 PM PST by Smedley
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To: blam
"The controversial theory comes one week after 2,500 scientists who make up the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change published their fourth report ...".

No it doesn't. The IPCC 4th assessment reports have not been released yet. A highly political "Summary" report was released. The main body of the report won't be released for several months. Meanwhile, it is likely being edited to match the summary.

I've made several posts recommending that people read the IPCC reports -- because, biased as they are, they don't make as extreme predictions as the alarmists. They are the best ammo yet to counter the nonsense that Al Gore is spewing (because anyone you're likely to be arguing with about GW probably thinks the UN is an unassailable source). That's as far as my recommendation goes -- there is no excuse for releasing the summary before the main body of the report (just exactly what is it summarizing, if there is no main report?). It is clearly a political move designed to manipulate public opinion. In all likelihood, the main report casts more doubts on things than the "summary" does.
9 posted on 02/10/2007 6:49:47 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: blam
Cosmic Rays Blamed For Global Warming


10 posted on 02/10/2007 6:49:55 PM PST by jdm
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To: blam

Actually, it's the cosmic rays which are responsible for the dementia of al goreghoul, and everything else follows from that.


11 posted on 02/10/2007 6:52:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: blam; DaveLoneRanger
Some climate change experts have dismissed the claims as "tenuous".

Yep, I can see why the idea the Sun may be a major factor in climate change would be "tenuous".

Human- caused climate change truly is a religion for some of these nuts.

12 posted on 02/10/2007 6:53:57 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Naming CVNs after congressmen and mediocre presidents burns my butt)
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To: blam

In other words...Don't worry about it and it's OK to wake up tomorrow...


13 posted on 02/10/2007 6:54:50 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: Dog

global warming bump


14 posted on 02/10/2007 6:54:50 PM PST by indthkr
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To: randog
NOTE on Shroud of Turin: There are at least two kinds of cloth in the Shroud. One type is very old. Another type is less old. It was added after a fire damaged the Shroud.

The radio carbon dating was done on the newer material and it correctly dated the cloth to the period of time when the repairs were made.

15 posted on 02/10/2007 6:57:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

Don't worry, the Fantastic 4 will save us.


16 posted on 02/10/2007 6:58:02 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: blam

how does fewer cosmic rays account for the warming of Mars?


17 posted on 02/10/2007 6:58:11 PM PST by fso301
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To: blam
If he is correct, it could mean that mankind has more time to reduce our effect on the climate

Since we, ultimately, are the primary cause of Globsl Warming... < /s>

18 posted on 02/10/2007 6:58:25 PM PST by mikrofon (Send in the Clouds)
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To: D-Chivas

How do you keep from sliding off your roof?


19 posted on 02/10/2007 6:59:22 PM PST by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: blam
He claims carbon dioxide emissions due to human activity are having a smaller impact on climate change than scientists think. If he is correct, it could mean that mankind has more time to reduce our effect on the climate.

Or not worry at all. Love how they come to this conclusion.

20 posted on 02/10/2007 6:59:53 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: blam

21 posted on 02/10/2007 7:00:27 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: blam
Man, I`m getting so sick of this global warming cr*p. Everyday it`s non-stop, Richard Branson with his $25 million to find a "cure", to Al Bore and his Global warming concert..Meanwhile we got a bunch of Islamic psychpaths trying their utmost to wipe out humanity...Oh but that comes secondary to Percy the Penguin and his ice floes.

If global warming was real and the ice caps were melting, I`d think the water level here around NYC would be a lot higher than it has been, but so far it looks exactly the same to me as it did 30 freggin` years ago, and it`s still freezing here in the winter and still hot as hell in the summer AS IT ALWAYS WAS!

I say my good man! Al Gore is out of his bloody mind! I`m still freezing my arse off as I always was!"

22 posted on 02/10/2007 7:00:55 PM PST by Screamname (Guinness world records reports that the record for youngest living person is constantly being broken)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Aside from the amount of global warming from anthropogenic sources, which is debatable in itself and becoming more so as more skeptical scientists speak out, I believe I heard an Al Gore quote that the developing nations that spew CO2 into the atmosphere should be given a pass on carbon controls until they catch up economically with the west, especially the US. Does anyone have a reference that can source that statement?

It's pretty obvious that an opinion like that translates to a stone around our economic neck while the other nations, which are already causing a negative trade balance, get a free pass. Comments anyone?

23 posted on 02/10/2007 7:01:20 PM PST by CedarDave (The "Mark Levin Show" live feed has the best bumper music on the net. Listen tonight!)
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To: neodad

"it could mean that mankind has more time to reduce our effect on the climate."

Sure, let's spend trillions of dollars in order to achieve small incremental improvements that may of may not have an effect of global warming.


24 posted on 02/10/2007 7:01:34 PM PST by popdonnelly (Conservatives must have their own long march through the institutions.)
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To: blam

I betcha Emperor Ming is behind this. Put out a call to Flash Gordon!


25 posted on 02/10/2007 7:03:47 PM PST by bushbuddy
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To: UnklGene

Larger Rays

26 posted on 02/10/2007 7:04:06 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: blam; ancient_geezer

They use the word "controversial" twice in this article. No bias here.


27 posted on 02/10/2007 7:04:18 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: jdm

Laugh - that's the first thing that came to my mind.


28 posted on 02/10/2007 7:04:18 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: randog

The Shroud of Turin is an integral part of the Christian faith? It's news to me.


29 posted on 02/10/2007 7:05:17 PM PST by billybudd
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To: blam

He said: "Evidence from ice cores show this happening long into the past. We have the highest solar activity we have had in at least 1,000 years.
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Around that time the Muslims acted up and there was more solar activity.

Now; Muslims are acting up and there is more solar activity.

Therefore; Muslims acting up increases solar activity resulting in Global Warming.

Where's my research grant?


30 posted on 02/10/2007 7:05:36 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam
1973....Overpopulation, pollution, food shortages, we were all going to die in 50 years



TUESDAY IS SOYLENT GREEN DAY!!
31 posted on 02/10/2007 7:06:04 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: Dog; blam

While we are out there accepting the global warming hype, then why not measure the amount of global warming caused by Chemtrails? or IMHO Chemtrails are more of a risk to global warming than motor vehicle emissions.


32 posted on 02/10/2007 7:06:13 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: randog
"Yeah, just like carbon dating the Shroud of Turin forced Christians to re-evaluate their religion".

I'm not sure how to interpret your post so I'll just say this. Whether or not the shroud is authentic or not, has absolutely no basis on how a evaluate my religion (Christianity)

33 posted on 02/10/2007 7:06:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: blam

One more item to include to teh list of causes that have nothing to do with humans.


34 posted on 02/10/2007 7:06:53 PM PST by SengirV
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To: blam

No worries! Hillary will take care of it.


35 posted on 02/10/2007 7:08:06 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (I don't have any reason to be cynical, but...)
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To: blam

The guy who came up with this theory should also be arrested for "Crimes Against Gore".....


36 posted on 02/10/2007 7:09:12 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: D-Chivas

That guy looks like he would welcome a little global warming!


37 posted on 02/10/2007 7:09:34 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (I don't have any reason to be cynical, but...)
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To: blam

The Rove-O-Matic Election Stealer, the Rove-O-Tron 3000 Hurricane Generator with the optional black detector to steer the storms to cause maximum genocide, the Rovemaster 4000 Democrat Stupid Statement Controller, and now Karl's Krazy Kosmic Ray Kollector. Just how much room does this guy have in his garage for gadgets, anyway?


38 posted on 02/10/2007 7:09:42 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (Go Gators! NCAA Football and Basketball Champions!)
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To: blam
"We may see CO2 is responsible for much less warming than we thought and if this is the case the predictions of warming due to human activity will need to be adjusted."

You MUST be kidding! Adjust the environmental industry that all these lefties are making so much money from?

Fergitaboutit!

39 posted on 02/10/2007 7:13:16 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The Democrat Party: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: neodad
If he is correct, it could mean that mankind has more time to reduce our effect on the climate.

lol. Yeah, I noticed that too. We're still destroying the environment, but just in a different way. what a crock.

40 posted on 02/10/2007 7:15:05 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The Democrat Party: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: randog

LOL
A man after my own heart.


41 posted on 02/10/2007 7:16:11 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: blam
Have you alerted algore?
42 posted on 02/10/2007 7:17:36 PM PST by Ditter
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To: randog
re-evaluate their religion.

"Environmentalism" and "Global Warming" and "Climate Change" aren't a religion.

They're industries, and the lefties are making a fortune off of them.

43 posted on 02/10/2007 7:17:46 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The Democrat Party: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: CedarDave
"...developing nations that spew CO2 into the atmosphere should be given a pass on carbon controls until they catch up economically with the west, ...."

I don't know about the Gore quote -- but, you've just described the essence of the Kyoto agreement. Only it's worse than a "free pass" -- it's a matter of being paid to ride.

Under the emissions trading scheme, countries like China and Russia stand to be paid billions -- simply for updating power plants, etc. to the levels that they already are at in the west. Meanwhile, China can add as many new coal-fired power plants as it wants -- and it wants a lot of them.
44 posted on 02/10/2007 7:18:30 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: tang-soo

Thanks. I was hoping somebody would find it funny. :O)


45 posted on 02/10/2007 7:19:08 PM PST by jdm
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To: blam

Anyone who feels the sun on their face would realize this!


46 posted on 02/10/2007 7:19:10 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Whether or not the shroud is authentic or not, has absolutely no basis on how a evaluate my religion (Christianity)

That's exactly my point. Scientific inquiry into the tenets of a religion have little-to-no effect on the faithful, the Global Warming® religion being no different.

47 posted on 02/10/2007 7:19:43 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Dan Evans

"according to controversial new research". So if Algore did not approve it then it's controversial.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha


48 posted on 02/10/2007 7:20:16 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: blam
"Public policy is all about trade-offs....But in the history of trade-offs, never has there been a better one than trading a tiny amount of global warming for a massive amount of global prosperity. Earth got about 0.7 degrees Celsius warmer in the 20th century while it increased its GDP by 1,800 percent, by one estimate.

How much of that 0.7 degrees can be laid at the feet of that 1,800 percent is unknowable, but let's stipulate that all of the warming was the result of our prosperity and that this warming is in fact indisputably bad (which is hardly obvious). That's still an amazing bargain. Life expectancies in the United States increased from about 47 years to about 77 years. Literacy, medicine, leisure and even, in many respects, the environment have improved mightily over the course of the 20th century, at least in the prosperous West.

Given the option of getting another 1,800 percent richer in exchange for another 0.7 degrees warmer, I'd take the heat in a heartbeat."

Interesting take from Jonah Goldberg Article HERE

49 posted on 02/10/2007 7:20:30 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (I don't have any reason to be cynical, but...)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
"Environmentalism" and "Global Warming" and "Climate Change" aren't a religion.

They are to the faithful.

50 posted on 02/10/2007 7:20:48 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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