Pregnant woman, baby killed after head-on collision

Independent Tribune ^ | February 7, 2007 | Mike Knox

[1rudeboy]

You don't get it, do you? (And yes, I've noticed it too). The simple fact of the matter is that guessing at the immigration status based on someone's surname is not logic. It is presumption/b>. And there's nothing wrong with it, as long as you don't pass it off as logic. With regard to the others on this thread, I refer you to my comment #36.

[1rudeboy]

Sorry, again:

You don't get it, do you? (And yes, I've noticed it too). The simple fact of the matter is that guessing at the immigration status based on someone's surname is not logic. It is presumption. And there's nothing wrong with it, as long as you don't pass it off as logic. With regard to the others on this thread, I refer you to my comment #36.

[Trailerpark Badass]

My conclusion, that illegals present a threat on the roads far greater than the native population, is certainly logical, based on my observations.

As I said, I don't even have to wait to hear the name. As for single-car accidents, I immediately think white, middle-class teenager.

[Old Professer]

Tragic; the headline made it sound as though the baby collided with the pregnant woman so I expected to read that she had been holding a baby on her lap when the crash occurred.

[1rudeboy]

I enjoyed the irony of trying, with no success, to discuss the English language with you. Call what you want "logic," personally, I don't care if you call it Francis. So be it. The "logic" of the following:

A. a driver with an Hispanic surname was involved in an accident,
B. a good number of illegal immigrants have Hispanic surnames,
C. therefore, the driver is an illegal immigrant,

is easily defeated by observing that not all people with Hispanic surnames are illegal immigrants. The moment you fall back on words that indicate probability, such as "almost always," or whatever, you are speculating. Guesses, even educated ones (to which you are certainly entitled), are not examples of logic. In fact, now that I think about it (but I may be wrong), the logical fallacy itself is named an "error of distribution."

[reagandemo]

If they let him out on bail he will be gone in a blink of an eye. Happened here a couple of years ago. An illegal killed a fireman riding on a motorcycle. Pulled out directly in front of him. He did not have a chance. The illegal posted bail and has never been seen of heard from again.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Tests on the fetus will help determine whether Martinez, 33, will face a charge for the unborn baby,

Whoa, they said baby and not fetus? It's only a baby when they can charge someone for murder

[Leeannas aunt]

Hey i am Leeannas aunt i just came across this web site been doing alot research since this happen to her . I am against them so bad now it is so unreal i work for teh pubic and i look at them diffenert now . Leeanna was on her way to my house went this wreck happen , i am still not over her and ever willl be cause i cnat have kids and she was like my own !!!!!!!Martinez was at a high rise prison here cause he cut off the ankle bracket he was wearing for almost biteing off a cops finger went he hit Leeanna , they have already had to move him cause the prisoners thier is threating him and his life i told them let them get him !!!!!! Please email minnie_girl65@yahoo.com