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Environmental Group Launches Anti-Coal Plant Ads
Dallas Business Journal ^ | 02/07/07 | JS Jordan

Posted on 02/11/2007 7:53:42 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: ClaireSolt
We will have lots of green projects that make us feel good instead of the power plants that we need.

Won't make any difference. Ms. Rodham is going to "take those profits" and invest them in cockamamie alternate fuels boondoggles.

41 posted on 02/11/2007 10:50:22 AM PST by Ole Okie (Even Planet Mars is warming. Those Mars Rovers are real polluters!)
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To: Tarpon
I was pushing nuclear the other day when it was warm, but this recent arctic blast has changed my mind.

The only way we can avoid another ice age is by switching to the filthiest, most polluting form of energies available, such as high sulfur coal, camel and buffalo dung, and the methane spewed from both ends of the global warming freaks.
42 posted on 02/11/2007 11:02:33 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats: Too stupid to lead, too vain to follow, too egotistical to get the hell out of the way!)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

LOL! That's naughty, WVMM ;-)

But I believe you nailed it.


43 posted on 02/11/2007 11:06:30 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats: Too stupid to lead, too vain to follow, too egotistical to get the hell out of the way!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Mark Twain:

"It’s not the things we don’t know that fool us. It’s the things we do know that ain’t so."


44 posted on 02/11/2007 11:08:58 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: F.J. Mitchell

We could always try to color the icecaps black (as was actually suggested during the last global cooling scare).


45 posted on 02/11/2007 11:11:34 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Duncan Hunter: Hope of America)
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To: Tarpon
LOL! Mr. Samuel Clemens had it figured out long before our time. We are in the troubles we are today because he was perceived as a humorist rather than a prophet.
46 posted on 02/11/2007 11:20:34 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats: Too stupid to lead, too vain to follow, too egotistical to get the hell out of the way!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

But they have us cornered now. ;-) They call it global warming and the icecaps are already as white as they can get.

Perhaps we can counter this by spray painting the moon and several planets nearest to us , a dull black.

Alas, it's hopeless, because the heat from the melt down of the moon and those planets, would only intensify our global warming.


47 posted on 02/11/2007 11:33:21 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats: Too stupid to lead, too vain to follow, too egotistical to get the hell out of the way!)
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To: goldstategop; Froufrou

"want to shut down civilization and make us go back to wearing bearskins".

Too true, too much of it is the desire of the sanctimonious to convert the rest of us, at swordpoint if necessary. If the greenweenie in question won't even discuss "nuclear", not even if you pronounce it "nookiar", he/she is not serious about alternatives. They only want to control your carbon footprint before they jet off to Switzerland, producing enough greenhouse gas for a third world nation in one trip, to an anti-global warming conference.

goldstategop, or anyone interested, forget the regular news. Toward the front of a paper's want ads, check the "official notices". PUC, RRC, and TEQC among others require due public notice and invitation for comment prior to granting a license. If you are actually a customer, you will have received a notice in the bill enclosures you usually toss out unexamined. All else fails, that is what Al Gore invented the internet for.


48 posted on 02/11/2007 11:34:50 AM PST by barkeep (Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
DOOOOOOOOOOOMAGE!!!
49 posted on 02/11/2007 11:47:53 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Duncan Hunter: Hope of America)
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To: Froufrou

Related article:

"Baptist group fights Texas coal plants"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1782799/posts


(We have coal plants here in NH. They use Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) systems to reduce nitrogen-oxide (NOx) emissions.)


50 posted on 02/11/2007 11:51:45 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Froufrou
Did you see the articles that those adds are funded by the NATURAL GAS COMPANIES?
51 posted on 02/11/2007 12:05:00 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Austin TX. is the home of STUPID people.)
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To: goldstategop
So true, although I doubt they will let you kill any bears.
Liberals are all about pulling people down to the lowest crappy level which they justify by saying their actions are going to make things "fair", (meaningless and unmeasurable). Class envy is their vehicle.

They do this with health care, education, wages...anything they inject government into... they stifle all innovations, ideas, they crush excellence, creativity and distinction. Any one who disagrees: shut him up by regulating (McCain-Feingold, Fairness Doctrine), also be sure to call him a racist, sexist, homophobe, uneducated red-neck so he will lose credibility and will self doubt.

Liberal is just another name for Socialist.
52 posted on 02/11/2007 2:19:21 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

On the radio I heard John Bradshaw say that 75% of Dem college grads believe in global warming whereas on 25% of R college grads do. I suppose the dems all study ethnic studies under Ward Churchill and the like. Now get this. When asked about the disparity the guest said Dems are raised to have a social conscience and it bothers them that global warming hurts the poor the most.


53 posted on 02/11/2007 2:34:29 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt
When asked about the disparity the guest said Dems are raised to have a social conscience and it bothers them that global warming hurts the poor the most.

What a line of crap that is. Use the poor to further their self interest and agenda is more like it. Reminds me this quote:

When people think they possess the secret of a perfect social organization which makes evil impossible, they also think that they can use any means, including violence and deceit, in order to bring it into being. John Paul II
54 posted on 02/11/2007 4:47:20 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Froufrou
These ads have plastered the local paper, yet I've heard virtually nothing about these proposed plants. Is there no end to the sleight of hand being played in Texas?

With all due respect, individual ignorance on a topic is not indicative of a gov't conspiracy.

A Google News search of "Texas" "TXU" "coal" and "plants" produces 585 articles in just the past month. These plants and the approval process have been in the news for more than a year. A Google search of those 4 terms produces 170,000 results. Narrow it down by adding the terms "Perry" still produces 40,000 results.

I dunno, maybe some simple research might be wise before slandering with charges of "conspiracy, coverup, corruption?"

I'm not a fan of TXU, and believe that they should be investigated for price fixing, but these plants are needed and are a good thing. They will produce 50% more needed energy (Texas is growing by more than 500,000 a year, a new Austin and San Antonio area every 7 years) while producing 20% LESS total harmful emmissions because the new plants will be cleaner, older plants will be shut down or have cleaner technology installed, and a switch to cleaner Wyoming coal (Powder River Basin) instead of Texas lignite. (Plenty of keywords there to do more research with.) And TXU isn't the only company proposing new coal plants in Texas.

The enviro/media-activists are saying that these coal plants should use the cleaner coal gasification technology, but what they don't mention is that what they propose is so new that there isn't yet an operating plant. In fact Texas has done a good job in competing for fed funds for the demonstration gasification project and is one of the favorites to win the project. Another is being proposed for Corpus Christi, but hasn't been built. You see, what these groups are doing is opposing whatever is being considered and throwing out a nice sounding but not yet obtainable alternative to mute criticism that all they do is oppose. Just like the Dems do with foreign policy to fight the label that they are weak on defense, they criticize Iraq and say that the real problem is Iran. But when we propose dealing with Iran, they say, no you can't do that, N. Korea is the real threat. Or when we propose something on N. Korea it is called the wrong approach, everyone knows that Iran is more of a concern.

Coal is cheap, the US has centuries of reserves, and the current proposed plants would result in more power with cleaner air than we currently have. These plants should be approved ASAP.

55 posted on 02/12/2007 9:33:45 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Joe Dyton in '08; and free the Texas 3.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

" charges of "conspiracy, coverup, corruption?" "

And I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. I never said anything of the kind. Obviously, I found out about it by googling or the thread wouldn't be here. Sheesh.


56 posted on 02/12/2007 10:11:20 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: RightWhale

I guess you're right. Since when did networks and newspapers actually report news? They want 'the big story.' The market share.


57 posted on 02/12/2007 10:41:18 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
"Is there no end to the sleight of hand being played in Texas?"

OK, then what exactly was that statement supposed to have implied?

58 posted on 02/12/2007 11:19:15 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Joe Dyton in '08; and free the Texas 3.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

That I'm suspicious of government is hardly the same as being a conspiracy theorist. Politicians are much like car salesmen. If they move their lips, they're lying.


59 posted on 02/12/2007 12:20:11 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

"If they move their lips, they're lying."

Clarification: It is a joke. I have no car salesman agenda. No politician agenda either, for that matter.


60 posted on 02/12/2007 12:34:38 PM PST by Froufrou
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