Giuliani: Gun control helped lower crime

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[Sub-Driver]

Giuliani: Gun control helped lower crime

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Rudy Giuliani addressed a potentially troublesome issue with conservative voters, saying his policies as mayor to get handguns off the street helped reduce crime in New York.

"I used gun control as mayor," he said at a news conference Saturday during a swing through California. But "I understand the Second Amendment. I understand the right to bear arms."

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting.

Addressing another potential trouble spot with conservatives, Giuliani spoke in favor of a border fence, saying, "You have to have secure borders, you have to have a fence, and the fence I think has to be a highly technological one."

The nation needs to know, he said, who is coming into the country and why. But he provided scant details on how he would deal with illegal immigrants already in the country. Citizens, he added, should be able to read and write English.

Giuliani was to make an address Monday in Silicon Valley and he was to appear Tuesday at an agricultural fair in the Central Valley.

Asked when he would make a formal announcement that he is a candidate for the Republican nomination, Giuliani said: "Well, formally announce? I don't know."

[Enosh]

Hoooo-Boy!

[NormsRevenge]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, yaknow. (ducks)

[Reagan Man]

"I used gun control as mayor," he said at a news conference Saturday during a swing through California. But "I understand the Second Amendment. I understand the right to bear arms."

More double-talk from Rudy the liberal.

Rudy on gun control: "You've got to REGULATE consistent with the Second Amendment"

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[hubbubhubbub]

Very troubling statements from Rudy.

[xcamel]

"Horse-Pucky!"

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

"He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting."

One more time.......

It isn't.....about.....hunting......

[BRITinUSA]

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting.

The 2nd amendment to the constitution has nothing to do with hunting. No way this guy gets my vote. This man is not a RINO he's a democrat.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting.

The Second Amendment is not about ducks.

[SmoothTalker]

Disgusting. If this RINO gets the nomination, the party will splinter. He will be the last straw for a lot of frustrated true conservatives.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Just one final statement.
I've been sitting here getting more and more fed up with
all of this talk about these, pieces of machinery, having
no legitimate sporting purpose, no legitimate hunting
purpose, people, that is not the point of the second amendment!
The second amendment is not about duck hunting, and I
know I'm not going to make very many friends saying this,
but it's about our right, all of our right to be able to protect our selves from all of you guys up there.

Dr. Suzanna Gratia, Killeen massacre survivor who watched
as her parents were murdered because she obeyed Texas law
and left her handgun locked in her car.
Appearing before Rep Schumer's committee hearings on the assault weapons ban

[lilylangtree]

no, No, NO to Giuliani!

[kinoxi]

24/7 Rudy...

[Vaquero]

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

[DocH]

But "I understand the Second Amendment. I understand the right to bear arms."

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting.

The second sentence PROVES gun-grabbing RINO-rudy doesn't understand SH*T where the 2nd Amendment is concerned.

[mysterio]

Oh, you just want hillary to win. /sarc

[elpinta]

Get a fork, he may be done (we can hope).

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Tin foil hat on slightly.

After the Democrat and left wing Republican Amnesty which President Bush will sign, To get to the Norte America Union, you need a big gun grabber.

That way there may only be a few WACOS instead of several hundred.

[FreedomCalls]

Rudy on gun control: "You've got to REGULATE consistent with the Second Amendment"

Rudy on gun control: "You've got to regulate CONSISTENT WITH THE SECOND AMENDMENT."

In other words, he's saying any regulation not consistent with the Second Amendment is unconstitutional. Any proposed gun regulation must be consistent with the Second Amendment.

[TomGuy]

Gun control helped lower crime

IIRC, Hillary has also advocated gun control.

Amazing. In those states that have concealed-carry, crime rates also tend to be lower.

Go figure.

[hosepipe]

What is Giuliani STUPID or something?..

In Alaska you don't even need a permit to conceal carry.. i.e. women in their purses
How many crimes are NOT committed because of it theres no way to measure..

[TommyDale]

NRA Ping!

[Post-Neolithic]

"He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting."

Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. But isn't that just what liberals do? Pretty bad when a potential Presidental candidate thinks the 2nd amendment is all about hunting.

[Reagan Man]

You don't regulate the 2nd amendment.

You amend the Constitution.

[navygal]

My idea of gun control is two shots in the same hole.

[dman4384]

No way no how does he get my vote.

If its between him and hillary, Im going third party.

An election between Hillary and Rudy is simply a Dem vs Dem election.

[TomGuy]

It is fun to watch the politicians do the dipsy-doodle side-step on every issue and still manage to come down on every side of every issue. Most have a chiropractor on staff as they perform their various contortions.

The scary thing is one of them gets elected.

[Luke21]

This guy is a first class clown. I can't believe this is who we may decide to sacrifice to the Hillary/Obama cabal.

The party cannot come together with a far left liberal like Giuliani. He has too many views that mirror the Democrats. This is Wendell Willkie all over again. It's not a choice at all.

The Dems will try hard not to snicker if we nominate Rudy. An uninspired base, led by Rino cheerleaders is not gonna get it done.

[2111USMC]

GUN-GRABBER ALERT!

It's good that this comes out now before his campaign starts fooling too many people.

[JennysCool]

It isn't.....about.....hunting......

Yup. And I'm sure Rudy knows that, but this is the MSM. Note that the sentence in question is not a direct quote. It's just a note the reporter chose to pull from the event.

I'd wait for the transcript. I'm getting the impression the MSM hates Giuliani, because they suspect he could be elected, thus ending their dreams of Hillarycare, and are doing everything they can to sow discontent. Judging from the infighting already going on amongst conservatives, it appears to be working.

I always thought conservatives were too smart to be led by the drive-by media's obvious agendas, but then came 2005 and 2006.

Remember the ports issue? Remember how it tore conservatives apart? After things settled down we discovered -- lo and behold! -- it was Chucky Schumer behind it. Aided and abetted by the media.

Stop falling for this crap. Behind the curtain, it's the old hippies using their 1960s divide-and-conquer strategy. I can't believe so many are buying into it.

[Rome2000]

Rudy told the cops to search or pull over anybody who looks like they were carrying an illegal handgun.

Got lots of howls from the leftist criminal coddlers but was very effective, its not rocket science, bad guys most often look the part, you just have to do what law enforcement officers did for 200 years in this country before the hippies took over.

Ultimately this entire debate about Giuliani is pointless, either vote for him or Hillary or stay home, it doesn't matter, Giuliani will pick up most of the independents and a lot of donkeycrat imbeciles too.

His victory will be similar to Reagans second election landslide.

[NonValueAdded]

Sorry, Rudy ... you just lost this voter. The 2nd Amendment is more than the right to hunt. And speaking of Hunting and HUNTERS, Duncan, count me in!

[tiger-one]

Careful NY has CCW permits, but you can't get one, especially in NYC unless you are Don Imus

[dman4384]

No to Hillary
No to Rudy.

No to any Gun Grabber.

[Beelzebubba]

he's saying any regulation not consistent with the Second Amendment is unconstitutional. Any proposed gun regulation must be consistent with the Second Amendment.

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And he thinks banning handguns and military-style rifles is consistent with the 2nd amendment, apparently!

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

Keen observation and excellent points.

Thanks!

[aomagrat]

[Sam Ketcham]

Guns, Marrying his first cusin (I didn't know...annulment); divorce; abortion - who knows where he stands or will flip flop to - a GOP Kerry? ... Then there is his probable GOP Sanctioned Pro Illegals position....to be announced.

[Steamburg]

One more time where the facts don't meet the test. But, he was talking to the "subjects" of California not free citizens.

As to having no effect on hunting, the second amendment is not about hunting unless the species is politician. That is a point that I will never understand.

[Bender2]

Re: "Giuliani: Gun control helped lower crime..."

If by Gun control, Rudy, you mean keeping your aim on target as you fire...

[panaxanax]

"He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting."

That's good to hear, especially for sportsmen all over the country that had planned their New York City hunting trips!

At least now all those Cockroach and Rat tags won't go to waste.

[HHKrepublican_2]

Well we might not like it, but he is right. In NYC, that was the case.

[Marine Inspector]

This man is not a RINO he's a democrat.

DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner!

Hilary = Rudy

Rudy = Hilary

[Reagan Man]

>>>>His victory will be similar to Reagans second election landslide.

That is so ridiculous, its funny. LOL 21 months from the election, a year away from the primaries. You ought to be on stage as comic relief.

[LibKill]

I will not vote for him.

I will not vote for him if he is the presidential candidate.

I. Will. Not. Vote. For. Him.

[upsdriver]

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting.

What does the 2nd amendment have to do with hunting? If he was trying to make me feel better about him, he failed miserablely.

[beltfed308]

I am shocked! He's dead Jim.