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Men Followed From Shooting Range, Robbed Of Guns
WFTV News (Florida) ^ | 2/8/07 | n/a

Posted on 02/12/2007 8:42:17 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

Men Followed From Shooting Range, Robbed Of Guns

POSTED: 11:45 am EST February 8, 2007 UPDATED: 5:34 pm EST February 8, 2007

OVIEDO, Fla. -- Oviedo police think two people may have been followed home and robbed after they left a local gun range. The man and his friend were robbed in the driveway of a home on Lullwater Drive in the Kingsbridge West subdivision on Sunday.

Police agree the attack was brazen, because it seemed planned and it means two more powerful handguns are on the street.

Neighbors were still talking, Thursday, about Sunday afternoon's brazen driveway robbery.

"There were three police cars there and sort of an orangey, maroon colored Porsche pulled into the driveway at an angle," said neighbor Ben Bowles.

"It seems like crime is coming in here and we don't like that. I hope this is just an isolated incident," said neighbor Fima Tolentino.

Police said the robbery seemed rehearsed.

"As far back as I can remember, this is the first time we've had anybody robbed for their guns at gunpoint," said Det. Adam Egert, Oviedo Police Department.

There are shooting ranges all over Central Florida, but the victim and his friend left one in Apopka on Sunday afternoon after two hours on the range. While in the store, they noticed four young men.

The victims later confirmed with detectives that three of the young men were the suspects who showed their faces on in-store surveillance video. One suspect could be identified by his heavy chain, a chain the victim saw again in his own driveway.

"They were in their driveway for a matter of minutes when a green Honda pulled up," Egert said. "When they got out of their car, they put their guns right to their faces."

After the heist, the suspects fled in a bluish green, mid-90s model Honda Accord with tinted windows. The traumatized victims noticed one suspect was even on his cell phone as they drove away, but they didn't get a tag number.

The stolen semiautomatic handguns are a .45 caliber Kimber, worth $1,200, and a .40-caliber Sigsauer, which gun shops sell for about $600.

Meanwhile, neighbors in the well-heeled enclave admit their comfort zone has suddenly gotten a lot smaller.

"Maybe we should have a community watch association," Tolentino said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; florida

1 posted on 02/12/2007 8:42:19 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

always carry a loaded handgun to and from the range....ALWAYS!!!


2 posted on 02/12/2007 8:43:54 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
always carry a loaded handgun to and from the range....ALWAYS!!!

Ditto that!

3 posted on 02/12/2007 8:45:45 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: kiriath_jearim

This is why in Texas we go to and fro the gun range with loaded concealed weapons in the car.


4 posted on 02/12/2007 8:46:08 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Old news, already discussed here: 2nd Robbery Occurs Following Gun Range Visit
5 posted on 02/12/2007 8:46:19 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: Vaquero

"always carry a loaded handgun to and from the range....ALWAYS!!!"

Agreed, and I do!!


6 posted on 02/12/2007 8:48:42 AM PST by askrenr (Slightly to the right of Attila the Hun.)
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To: Vaquero
"always carry a loaded handgun to and from the range....ALWAYS!!!"
7 posted on 02/12/2007 8:49:52 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: Vaquero

DITTO!

P.S. If you're at an outdoor range, always carry a concealed loaded weapon so you are not vulnerable when loading/inloading the weapon you're shooting or pasting targets.


8 posted on 02/12/2007 8:49:53 AM PST by DrNo
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To: kiriath_jearim
Police agree the attack was brazen, because it seemed planned and it means two more powerful handguns are on the street.

(Oh, nooooo! Eeeevil powerful handguns on the street!!! Lock 'em up!!!)

If I were a tree, I'd resent being sacrificed to publish such writing as this. Sounds like time for Birnam Wood to march on Dunsinane again....

9 posted on 02/12/2007 8:50:22 AM PST by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
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To: DrNo

inloading = unloading


10 posted on 02/12/2007 8:51:38 AM PST by DrNo
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To: Centurion2000
Florida had legal, Shall Issue CCW before Texas did.

These unfortunate men appear not to have taken advantage of it.

11 posted on 02/12/2007 8:51:54 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

NEVER use up ALL of your ammo!

I shoot machine guns, until I run out of ammo.
But I keep a pistol loaded at all times, just in case some idiot decides to try to steal a gun from me.


12 posted on 02/12/2007 8:52:10 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: thulldud

I applaud your literary reference to one of The Bard's classics.


14 posted on 02/12/2007 8:54:19 AM PST by EarthBound (Ex Deo, gratia. Ex astris, scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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To: NonValueAdded
Old news, already discussed here: 2nd Robbery Occurs Following Gun Range Visit

True. This one, though, deals mainly with the first crime. One thing that wasnt too clear in the other thread was that both crimes involved the same shooting range.

Many times at this range I've seen "yutes" such as those in the photo, wearing their Mr T starter kits and baggy drawers.

As an aside, if you look carefully in the photo (lower left) you'll see a stuffed bear :)

15 posted on 02/12/2007 8:55:21 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (ˇEl proletariado del mundo, une!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I swear that it looks like a bear is in the lower left corner.

16 posted on 02/12/2007 8:55:57 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Joe Dyton in '08; and free the Texas 3.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Florida had legal, Shall Issue CCW before Texas did.

True, but carrying loaded handguns to the range was legal before our CCW laws were passed.

17 posted on 02/12/2007 8:56:24 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Stupid thieves. They took the cheap guns, and left the expensive Porsche behind.


18 posted on 02/12/2007 8:59:09 AM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are sa-a-a-ying, is give Beast a chance.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Why was post #13 pulled? Was it the "F'ing" part?


19 posted on 02/12/2007 8:59:27 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Mary Carey '08!)
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To: thulldud
Agreed. Those guns have always been on the streets ~ just in the possession of law abiding people. The stupid paper should have changed it to say "two more powerful handguns are in the possession of crackheads"


BTW, I thought all handguns were powerful...
20 posted on 02/12/2007 8:59:46 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I swear that it looks like a bear is in the lower left corner.

Yeah, but odds are he's a Cincinnati Bengal. :)

21 posted on 02/12/2007 9:01:07 AM PST by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
BTW, I thought all handguns were powerful...

I've got an ancient breaktop Smith that might bounce off Wonder Bread. :)

22 posted on 02/12/2007 9:01:30 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: kiriath_jearim

How bigga brass balls do you have to have to rob someone you know is carrying a gun?

Or just plain crazy....

I guess they figured that responsible sporting owners always unload and secure their weapons just like the warm fuzzy manuals tell us to do.


23 posted on 02/12/2007 9:05:37 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Plink at the range with a .22LR pistol, carry a .45ACP concealed, let them have the .22LR, if things get dicey pull the .45, it really is that easy.


24 posted on 02/12/2007 9:10:02 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I swear that it looks like a bear is in the lower left corner.

I hope so, 'cause I believe in the right to keep and arm bears...

25 posted on 02/12/2007 9:24:43 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: Vaquero

The state of MD does not allow for this.

The handgun or rifle used at the range must be carried to and from the range in a particular manner.

The firearms must be unloaded and in a place in the car separate from the ammunition.

I usually carry the handguns or rifles secured in the trunk with the ammo in the passenger compartment, usually in a container of some sort. I make sure that I can assemble all in a very short period of time (JUST IN CASE).

When travelling with firearms, I always am aware if a car is following, and if so, take whatever measures may be appropriate. But I always try to be aware of my surroundings and who may be near and pose a threat. You can usually avoid a threat. If you can't avoid a threat, a car is a great weapon if used "properly".


26 posted on 02/12/2007 9:27:59 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: kiriath_jearim

Of course the obvious way to stop all this is to ban legal citizens from owning guns .... right???

/s/ sarcasm switch on (then off)


27 posted on 02/12/2007 9:30:06 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Those That Would Rather Have Security Than Freedom Deserve Neither")
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

not in NY....here it is county by county. I am lucky...many are not.....


28 posted on 02/12/2007 9:30:49 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I think he was the one wearing the heavy chain.


29 posted on 02/12/2007 9:35:40 AM PST by rabidralph (Hoo-ray, Beer!)
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To: EarthBound

And I applaud your avoidance of uttering the name of the play.....:))


30 posted on 02/12/2007 9:37:33 AM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

"The state of MD does not allow for this. The handgun or rifle used at the range must be carried to and from the range in a particular manner. The firearms must be unloaded and in a place in the car separate from the ammunition."

Yep, I always have to stop at the state line before entering the People's Republic of Maryland to get legal. What a pain. In West Virginia everyone just assumes your armed :)


31 posted on 02/12/2007 9:40:20 AM PST by Lawdoc (Pray for our troops and our President, and for honest dems.)
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To: Salamander

One wouldn't want a series of misfortune to occur.


32 posted on 02/12/2007 9:40:24 AM PST by EarthBound (Ex Deo, gratia. Ex astris, scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I swear that it looks like a bear is in the lower left corner.

The Chicago Bears have decided to put a little more "oomph" into their defense following their Super Bowl loss?

(It is a bear. Many gun shops have stuffed hunting trophies as decor.)

33 posted on 02/12/2007 9:41:32 AM PST by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: EarthBound

;-D


34 posted on 02/12/2007 9:53:06 AM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Fresh Wind
Stupid thieves. They took the cheap guns, and left the expensive Porsche behind.

It is difficult to carry a concealed Porsche.

35 posted on 02/12/2007 10:03:08 AM PST by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL, I read of an attempted murder/suicide pact years ago with similar results. An elderly couple in their nineties decided to end it all with a .22 of similar vintage, they wound up with headaches. On one person the round bounced off their skull and the other had the slug lodge in their ear canal. Aside from being dazed, neither suffered serious injury. Police estimated the rounds had been in the gun for over 50 years!


36 posted on 02/12/2007 10:11:45 AM PST by skepsel
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To: kiriath_jearim

I NEVER expend all of my ammo at the range. NEVER!


37 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:11 AM PST by GingisK
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Well... I work on a military installation. So they wont LET me carry mine ALL the time. And so I carry mine about 80% of the time. The bad guys get to guess which 20% I don't. :)


38 posted on 02/12/2007 12:16:57 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
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39 posted on 02/12/2007 2:01:35 PM PST by BorisTheBulletDodger (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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