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Views of Giuliani put GOP to the test
The Baltimore Sun ^ | 2-12-2007 | Paul West

Posted on 02/12/2007 2:54:43 PM PST by TitansAFC

Views of Giuliani put GOP to the test

His moderate stands on social issues part with conservative base

.......On the first day of his five-day California swing, a blog popular with state conservatives, Flash Report.org, posted a YouTube clip from a February 2000 Meet the Press in which Giuliani boasts that no public official in the nation is "more strongly pro-immigrant than I am."

For conservatives who want a president who will crack down on illegal immigration, that sort of talk is very troubling.

"That's a big mistake," said Linda Sutter, 50, of Crescent City, Calif., who supports Giuliani because "I feel secure with him." After learning about his positions on immigration and other issues, the retired correctional officer acknowledged that she was "not completely informed. ... Some of those things might stop me from voting for him."

Even those who have joined his campaign acknowledge that their knowledge of his views is sketchy.....

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


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......Giuliani boasts that no public official in the nation is "more strongly pro-immigrant than I am."....

Ouch!

1 posted on 02/12/2007 2:54:45 PM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC
Views of Giuliani put GOP to the test His moderateLIBERAL stands on social issues part with conservative base
2 posted on 02/12/2007 2:58:03 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: narses; Spiff

Ping!


3 posted on 02/12/2007 2:58:39 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: TitansAFC
Said it before, I'll say it again.

I will not vote for Giuliani under any conditions. McCain either.
4 posted on 02/12/2007 2:59:14 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: TitansAFC
A female who would support/vote for liberal RINO-rudy because, "I feel secure with him."

Didn't Rush have a name for these type of women a few years back?

5 posted on 02/12/2007 3:00:54 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: taxcontrol

Compared to Giuliani, McCain actually looks good.


6 posted on 02/12/2007 3:01:25 PM PST by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: TitansAFC

he fought the federal government to maintain NY's "sanctuary city" stance. So much for the law and order reputation.


7 posted on 02/12/2007 3:03:02 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs!)
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To: taxcontrol
I would rather vote for a candidate than against one, but if I am forced to vote against Hitlery, I will vote for Giuliani. This is not new on Rudy. True conservatives have known for a long time that he is liberal.
8 posted on 02/12/2007 3:04:00 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: TitansAFC
Even those who have joined his campaign acknowledge that their knowledge of his views is sketchy . . .

This is what is called a "delusional cult of personality."

9 posted on 02/12/2007 3:05:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Hambone02

To clarify, I will only vote for Rudy if he makes it past the primaries. Otherwise, no. And, I hope he doesn't make it.


10 posted on 02/12/2007 3:05:34 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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. . . Linda Sutter, 50, of Crescent City, Calif., who supports Giuliani because "I feel secure with him."

This is the kind of dopey dip-sh!t who voted for Bill Clinton twice, and who -- truth be told -- really has no business participating in a system of elected government.

11 posted on 02/12/2007 3:06:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: TitansAFC

Immigrant, not illegal immigrant.


12 posted on 02/12/2007 3:08:23 PM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: Redcloak
"Compared to Giuliani, McCain actually looks good"

So does Deputy Dog, The Road Runner, Bugs Bunny, PeeWee Herman.....
13 posted on 02/12/2007 3:09:38 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......Ronnie made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: TitansAFC
Pro-ILLEGAL immigrant is more like it.

Giuliani maintained, in defiance of Federal Law, one of the nation's largest sanctuary cities for illegal aliens. He openly defied the law, he refused to cooperate with federal law enforcement in tracking down illegal aliens, and he even sued the Federal Government to keep that sanctuary city status. Yes, he's pro-ILLEGAL immigrant all right.

14 posted on 02/12/2007 3:10:50 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: taxcontrol

If it comes down to rudy or Mrs. Clinton?
McPain or Mrs. Clinton?


15 posted on 02/12/2007 3:12:40 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Beagle8U

I plan on writing in my cocker spaniel's name if Giuliani is the nominee. Sure, he whizzes in the house sometimes, but I've never caught him eying the gun safe.


16 posted on 02/12/2007 3:12:59 PM PST by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Joe Boucher
"If it comes down to rudy or Mrs. Clinton?
McPain or Mrs. Clinton?"

Donald Duck gets a write-in vote.
17 posted on 02/12/2007 3:14:38 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......Ronnie made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: taxcontrol

Amen to that. Having McCain or Giuliani (DocC is dead on: not moderates, but LIBERALS) in office would be catastrophic. Because not only will they propose liberal legislation, but (and I know some people here will deny it, but you know it's true) our Reps in congress, by and large, would be too afraid to vote against "their president"'s legislation, while the Dems will line up behind it.

The other day, someone told me something to the effect of, "Well, what if Hillary wins? In wartime, having someone like that as the commander in chief would be a disaster." Well, you know what? I don't expect that our newly created Spanish-language rainbow brigade will live up to our military's five star standards after their private-use firearms are banned. Yes, Rudy has a good record on the War on Terror; nobody is denying or questioning that. But on almost everything else, he is *at least* as liberal as Hillary, and unlike Hillary, congressional Republicans will fold under his legislation. People like Giuliani think that they can get our votes just by having an (R) after their name. And they often do. But I'm just sick of people who think they can get away with that. And it scares the hell out of me, the sort of legislation he'd be able to get across if he were president.


18 posted on 02/12/2007 3:14:56 PM PST by OldGuard1
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To: Redcloak

LOL


19 posted on 02/12/2007 3:16:22 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......Ronnie made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: Redcloak
writing in my cocker spaniel's name if Giuliani is the nominee. Sure, he whizzes in the house sometimes

Rudy or the dog?

20 posted on 02/12/2007 3:16:26 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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