Posted on 02/12/2007 2:54:43 PM PST by TitansAFC
Views of Giuliani put GOP to the test
His moderate stands on social issues part with conservative base
.......On the first day of his five-day California swing, a blog popular with state conservatives, Flash Report.org, posted a YouTube clip from a February 2000 Meet the Press in which Giuliani boasts that no public official in the nation is "more strongly pro-immigrant than I am."
For conservatives who want a president who will crack down on illegal immigration, that sort of talk is very troubling.
"That's a big mistake," said Linda Sutter, 50, of Crescent City, Calif., who supports Giuliani because "I feel secure with him." After learning about his positions on immigration and other issues, the retired correctional officer acknowledged that she was "not completely informed. ... Some of those things might stop me from voting for him."
Even those who have joined his campaign acknowledge that their knowledge of his views is sketchy.....
(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...
Sounds like a few posters on this site.
We are a military family, and I feel very secure with George Bush in charge. Call me any name that you wish.
ping. More Guiliani fun.
"moderate stands"
BS
Sorry these are not "moderate views" but liberal views. Should the Pubbies decide to throw out their conservative views, in desperation to defeat Clinton, they need to change the name of the party - say to dimocRAT-lite.
Waaaaaaaaaay to early to jump on a "media star" at this point in the game.
Or, your wife, if you have one!
I cant believe we are even talking about this LIBERAL for the republican nomination. What the hell is wrong with some people on this website?. The media is behind this guy but certainly not "real conservatives". Just one more nail in his coffin.
There isn't a mayor or public official in this country that's more strongly pro-immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about 2 or 3 years ago.Hmmmm...what was that legislation?
I just Googled "Clinton signed anti-immigrant legislation" and the first thing that popped up was a site called "The Militant" which is the "socialist newsweekly published in the interests of working people." The next is ZMag which is a nutball anti-war anarchist magazine. They called that legislation "anti-immigrant" too. The next is the Revolutionary Worker magazine. The next is Workers World Daily - they call it anti-immigrant legislation too. I can't seem to find any conservative or even Republican publications or statements which called that legislation "anti-immigrant".
The legislation was passed by a REPUBLICAN CONGRESS and signed by Clinton on 30 September 1996. It barred illegal immigrants from entitlement programs, ended late amnesty programs, and toughened up other immigration laws and policies. And Giuliani was PROUD to have opposed it!
Yes it does, does'nt it. This gives women a bad name when it comes to voting.
I don't know. The other day I used the term Rudygasm which was inspired by Rush's use of the term Gorbasm when talking about how some liberals reacted to Gorbachev.
Not all immigrants to this country are illegal. Being "pro-immigrant" is NOT a bad thing, in and of itself. But still the very sharp distinction between legal immigrants, and "undocumented" border skippers, keeps on getting muddied up. This country has always thrived upon immigrants who have entered this country and made its ideals their own, striving to attain "the American Dream".
But border skippers, who came here originally as only transients, even though it may have been legal at the time, may have simply overstayed a visa, or may have exceeded the limitations of that visa. Or worse, simply sneaked in at night, with no visa at all. Whatever way, they feel no allegiance to America, and in fact, may have some mischief in mind.
Two VERY distinct groups. One, which represents a yearning for everything that is American, and the other, which could as a group, care less about the eventual fate of America.
He probably was referring to LEGAL immigrants. Why shouldn't anyone be for legal immigration?
Safety Moms?
Yes, I expect the Safety Moms will be voting for Rudy. I know this one will.
Thank you for the clarification.
What were those polls showing? Like three-forths of GOP voters are ignorant of Giuliani's abortion stance? When it gets to the substance and not just the name, Giuliani will sink like the Titanic.
"Safety moms" are also called "security Moms".
If he was referring to legal immigrants, why did he fight the feds to maintain NYC as a sanctuary city?
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