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Obama criticizes war in Iraq during Ames visit
Souix City Journal ^ | 12/12/07 | Charlotte Eby

Posted on 02/12/2007 3:58:00 PM PST by captjanaway

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To: trumandogz

It wasn't that he called them the bravest young Americans, it's that he said the lives were "wasted".
Again, I do apologize for changing the headline, ok? It wasn't intentional at all --


21 posted on 02/12/2007 4:06:42 PM PST by captjanaway
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To: captjanaway

I see it as critical of the war not the troops. NBC has been slamming the troops.


22 posted on 02/12/2007 4:06:58 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: captjanaway

I see it as critical of the war not the troops. NBC has been slamming the troops.


23 posted on 02/12/2007 4:07:12 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: vetsvette

IMO, not one of the DC Liberal/RINO royalty are worthy of licking the bottoms of our brave soldier's boots.


24 posted on 02/12/2007 4:07:40 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: captjanaway
"We ended up launching a war that should have never been authorized, and should have never been waged, and to which we now have spent $400 billion and have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted," Obama said.

I don't see how this is a slam.

25 posted on 02/12/2007 4:08:24 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: captjanaway

It must be remembered that Obama's ancestors, that is those remaining in Africa, enslaved those Africans shipped in chains to America.


26 posted on 02/12/2007 4:08:51 PM PST by bert
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To: captjanaway
Osama's 'gonna have a lot of Kerry like botched message moments
27 posted on 02/12/2007 4:09:01 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: vetsvette

Since late 2002 Iraq overshadowed Afghanistan in the War on Terror. When Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, the U.S.A still disregarded perils terrorism posed. This country ignored nine significant attacks killing over 400 people after Islamic fundamentalists were energized in 1979 by invading the sovereign territory of our Iranian embassy. However, Resolution 687 in 1991 coupled military restraint to Hussein’s abandonment of international terrorism.



After events of 9/11 and fall of the Taliban, Iraq under Hussein remained a haven for terrorists. His rule over oil wealth and 25 million citizens provided the supportive situation cherished for planning incalculable slaughters utilizing modern science and engineering. Hence, his rule constituted a greater threat to international peace and security, than individuals such as bin Laden or Zawahiri. Colin Powell’s testimony asserted and David Kay’s inspections confirmed an Iraq more dangerous than assumed, because freelance as well as state sponsored WMD programs were underway, and terrorist groups moved freely.



Osama bin Laden contends the most important issue for the world is winning in Iraq. Zawahiri says al Qaeda victory restores the basis for a caliphate encompassing the Middle East. These are not misunderstood primitives, but implacable enemies for whom suicide bombings and beheadings underscore unshakeable principle. Expatriate Muslims tell us lethal elements emerging from the Salafi/Wahhabi heresy regard all others as sub-human, legitimate objects for slaughter whether Jew, Shi’a, Sunni, or Christian. For al Qaeda violent death dominates traditional family, tribe, and country Muslim allegiances, and provides no caveats for economic or human remnants.

But who am I to let these facts get in the way of a great stump speech.


28 posted on 02/12/2007 4:10:42 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: captjanaway
"and have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted"

Obama, you low-down bastard.

Look Obama Hussein, perhaps wasted defending your sorry backside's ability to make such vile, disrespectful, and disgraceful statements, but not wasted in defending the freedom and liberty of this nation as a whole, and providing an opportunity for millions of Iraqis to have a chance of some semblance of the same...not to mention killing tens of thousands of enemies who would come here and bring the war to us if our brave soldiers were not there taking the war to them.

29 posted on 02/12/2007 4:10:50 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: captjanaway
"...over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted," Obama said.

Wasted? Only to an unAmerican, socialist chickensh!t like you Osama. Go back to the madrasa where you can be with like minded death cult worshippers.
30 posted on 02/12/2007 4:13:25 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: captjanaway

He knows all about being wasted. Because he used wasted in relation to the deaths of our solidiers he will never be POTUS.


31 posted on 02/12/2007 4:13:26 PM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: captjanaway
“People ask “How can liberals oppose a war which has liberated millions of men and women in Afghanistan and Iraq, and created the most democratic constitution in the history of the Islamic world?” The answer is they can’t. Our opponents are not liberals. We are liberal. Our opponents are leftists, accompanied by their fellow travelers. And the name of their desire is the destruction of America and the freedoms that depend on America’s strength.”

“Today, this Fifth Column is an unholy alliance between the secular left and the Islamic fundamentalists both of whom see America as the Great Satan, the root cause of injustice and evil in the world.”

David Horowitz
32 posted on 02/12/2007 4:14:03 PM PST by Jacquerie (All muslims are suspect.)
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To: Zeroisanumber
..."3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted"

I consider that quite a slam on our troops who gave the ultimate sacrifice.

What would be a waste is if we leave Iraq unfinished, as Barry Obama wants to do. Then, their deaths would be a waste, thanks to the dems.

33 posted on 02/12/2007 4:15:40 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: captjanaway
"...He pointed to the civil rights movement and the Vietnam War as issues where young people had a voice. "I think lifting up those examples of where participation has led to positive change is absolutely critical," he said...."

Great example here of why liberals should NEVER be allowed to hold office of the Presidency or make any decisions of any sort in this country regarding military or foreign policy affairs. This is from another post A Parallel to "Gathering Of Eagles." What did the North Vietnamese think of the antiwar movement? today:

A LOT of parallels to current events here for some of the younger folks who do not know what REALLY went on in the past, and WILL go on now ... IF we do not stand-up and speak-up.

What did the North Vietnamese leadership think of the American antiwar movement?

Bui Tin, a former colonel in the North Vietnamese army, answers these questions in the following excerpts from an interview conducted by Stephen Young, a Minnesota attorney and human-rights activist [in The Wall Street Journal, 3 August 1995]. Bui Tin, who served on the general staff of North Vietnam's army, received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975. He later became editor of the People's Daily, the official newspaper of Vietnam. He now lives in Paris, where he immigrated after becoming disillusioned with the fruits of Vietnamese communism.

Question: How did Hanoi intend to defeat the Americans?

Answer: By fighting a long war which would break their will to help South Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh said,

"We don't need to win military victories, we only need to hit them until they give up and get out."

Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory?

A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.

Q: Did the Politburo pay attention to these visits?

A: Keenly.

Q: Why?

A: Those people represented the conscience of America. The conscience of America was part of its war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor. America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win.

34 posted on 02/12/2007 4:15:49 PM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: captjanaway
We really need to use this man's full name in all titles: Barack Hussein Obama. Don't leave out the Hussein. He doesn't like it.
35 posted on 02/12/2007 4:30:49 PM PST by Shannon
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To: bert
It must be remembered that Obama's ancestors, that is those remaining in Africa, enslaved those Africans shipped in chains to America.

"Must be remembered"? It must be understood by Americans in the first place! Especially the decendants of slaves.

I've been harping on this for some time. Obama has nothing in common with decendants of slaves. His wife apparently is a real "African American" in the sense that her ancestors were slaves (as far as I know). Obama is more aligned with the people that enslaved what we call "African Americans" through his African moslem father. As many black Americans don't seem to fathom, the Arab and the African converts to islam like Obama's father were the slave traders.

I've never understood why a black American who's ancestors were slaves would have anything to do with islam. Their ancestors didn't. 99+% of all the slaves brought in to the US were not moslem.

The issue for the left and the media is that Obama is an "African American", that he's "black". He isn't. His ancestors are the people that CAUSED slavery, they provided the supply.

36 posted on 02/12/2007 4:31:26 PM PST by isthisnickcool (I own your children! ---RICK PERRY)
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To: captjanaway
3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans WASTED,

This is an ignorant, hateful insult!
37 posted on 02/12/2007 4:37:34 PM PST by etradervic (Newt in '08)
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To: captjanaway

"...and to which we now have spent $400 billion and have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted," Obama said."

Interesting that he placed the money spent before the lives of our troops. Apparently, to him, the money spent
is more important. Then, "wasted?" I can't share my actual response to that without getting my post removed. Suffice it to say that I am becoming convinced that Obama is an enemy of America. In one of his quips he was quoted as saying, "he wanted to change America." Apparently that would be to sharia law.


38 posted on 02/12/2007 4:45:26 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: isthisnickcool

Amen, rave on brother, correcto mundo....


39 posted on 02/12/2007 4:46:47 PM PST by bert (Obama's people enslaved Black Americans.)
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To: captjanaway

>> OBAMA: "...3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted."

This is without question the ultimate insult to those who selflessly devote themselves to what is inevitably the greater cause of mankind. It is a cold hard slap to the injured and the families of those who have paid dearly for the sanctity of humanity and the freedom it seeks to secure and preserve.

He is clearly unfit to command any aspect of the American Military whatsoever.


40 posted on 02/12/2007 5:52:16 PM PST by Gene Eric
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