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100 lawmakers give '08 endorsements
The Hill ^ | 2/13/2007 | Elana Schor

Posted on 02/13/2007 8:27:51 AM PST by Antoninus

Take note, presidential prognosticators: Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R) may have earned a rousing reception at the California GOP convention last weekend, but Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) has more public supporters in Congress.

And while Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) plans to refrain from an endorsement until her party chooses a nominee, one Democratic candidate quietly has lined up not one but two backers in the House leadership - Sen. Chris Dodd (Conn.).

The most wide-open presidential rivalry in modern times is sparking fierce competition for congressional backing, with nearly 100 lawmakers declaring their 2008 allegiances before the first debate begins. Though a win in the unofficial Capitol primary builds undeniable momentum for candidates, support from members of Congress may be more of a boon to those aiming for the White House from the back of the pack.

Months before the 2000 Iowa caucus, Vice President Al Gore found himself keeping one eye on the general election and the other on former Sen. Bill Bradley (N.J.) when the Democratic dark horse won the endorsements of then-Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.) and the late former Sens. Paul Wellstone (D-Minn.) and Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.). In that year's Republican race, then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush picked up early fiscal-conservative bona fides from former House budget chief John Kasich (R-Ohio) that came in handy later in the cycle.

Whether the congressional support will prove a boon for Dodd, who claims to have secured backing from House Democratic Caucus Vice-Chairman John Larson (Conn.) and assistant to the Speaker Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.), remains to be seen. Similarly, Hunter's six member endorsements are as much a testament to his 14 terms and Armed Services Committee chairmanship as they are to his presidential viability.

"I'd say those [lawmakers] with safe seats, those with significant stature and networks, will be valuable" to 2008 hopefuls whose camps they join, the executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, Sheila Krumholz, said. "Those who are working on their own reelection will be valuable - only less so."

The necessity of compiling extensive endorsements in Congress can depend on how candidates choose to define themselves to voters. While the imprimatur of local officials can jumpstart a campaign in early-primary states, Giuliani has jolted the GOP race with the force of national name-recognition won during New York's recovery from the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Other candidates challenging the Beltway establishment, such as former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) and former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack (D), have less need to join the insider's race for congressional boosters.

The Internet's newly prime position in campaign strategy and outreach also adds a new dimension to the traditional pursuit of earned media before nominees are chosen. Instead of relying on lawmaker appearances to draw crowds, candidates can now blog on their websites and post online videos.

"The support Governor Romney has received is indicative of just how well our organizing at the grassroots level is going, and it's also a measure of just how well his message is resonating with folks across the entire spectrum of the Republican Party," a Romney spokesman, Kevin Madden, told The Hill.

Across the aisle, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) expressed a similar interest in cultivating grassroots support: "What we have to do is create a vehicle where people feel like they are part of the campaign, that they're not just being sold politics the way you sell soap," he told Iowans at a Sunday house party to mark his official entrance in the race.

Obama currently trails Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) in the Democratic hunt for congressional backers, which so far has attracted less attention than the GOP frontrunners' courtship of Republican members. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) delivered a shot across Romney's bow yesterday, announcing the support of five well-connected Republican officials in the former governor's home state of Massachusetts.

Just as presidential hopefuls chase congressional supporters, Krumholz observed that lawmakers with ambitions outside the Capitol may seek out the candidate most likely to repay their gesture after getting elected.

"It's a tit-for-tat game they play," she said. "Yes, [White House rivals] are looking for [members'] endorsements, and then members of Congress will be looking to collect chits for themselves."

Missouri Republican Sen. John Ashcroft endorsed Bush in 2000 after abandoning his own briefly held presidential hopes, only to become attorney general in the following year's administration. After winning the Democratic nomination in 2004, Sen. John Kerry (Mass.) openly vetted friend and endorser Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) for a future secretary of state position.

Endorsement counts during the 2004 race, however, illustrate the limits of strong support inside the Capitol. Heading into the 2004 Iowa caucus, former Rep. Richard Gephardt (D-Mo.) boasted greater lawmaker support than both Kerry and then-frontrunner Gov. Howard Dean (Vt.), reflecting his status as the party's longtime House leader. Both Pelosi and current House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) endorsed Gephardt, in contrast to their neutrality during this cycle - but Gephardt ultimately dropped out after a fourth-place finish in the Iowa caucus.

An X-factor in the congressional endorsement battle is the plethora of party caucuses. Congressional Black Caucus members are already grappling with the difficult choice between Obama and Clinton, whose husband was affectionately dubbed "the first black president" for his appeal in the African-American community, but two other influential caucuses remain up for grabs.

The Congressional Progressive Caucus, its clout growing along with members' criticism of White House Iraq policy, has not yet endorsed a candidate and has no plans to do so at this time. The Republican Main Street Partnership, headed by former representative and early primary kingmaker Charles Bass (R-N.H.), is similarly undecided about whether to endorse a candidate before the nominations are secured.

Main Street spokesman Chris Barron observed that two of the three leading GOP contenders, McCain and Romney, have served or currently serve as members of the partnership, and that Giuliani's centrist credentials place him in line with the group's ideals.


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Momentum for Hunter is building.

I'd like to know what Ms. Schor's source is on this. If it's true, I wonder if the Hunter supporters in the House are gearing up for a major announcement....
1 posted on 02/13/2007 8:27:53 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
Take note, presidential prognosticators: Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R) may have earned a rousing reception at the California GOP convention last weekend, but Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) has more public supporters in Congress.

This is the same House that dithered and lost Rome?

Great endorsement!

2 posted on 02/13/2007 8:29:25 AM PST by zarf
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To: Fierce Allegiance; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; alicewonders; AngryJawa; ...


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3 posted on 02/13/2007 8:30:29 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Antoninus
He should have the conservative wing of the congress behind him, which is about 100 guys. Hopefully the newest GOP babe there is also on board, Michelle bachmann


4 posted on 02/13/2007 8:30:37 AM PST by pissant
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To: zarf
This is the same House that dithered and lost Rome? Great endorsement!

Wow, cryptic post. What are you even alluding to?
5 posted on 02/13/2007 8:32:14 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Antoninus
but Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) has more public supporters in Congress.

But ... but ... but ... the Rudy boosters told me no one would support Hunter because he has no chance of winning! What gives?

6 posted on 02/13/2007 8:33:45 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: pissant
He should have the conservative wing of the congress behind him, which is about 100 guys.

It's beginning to look that way. I wish guys like Brownback and Tancredo would just ditch the presidential talk and back Hunter. Both of them have poison pills in their record that will make them unacceptable. But they could really help propel a guy like Hunter forward by endorsing him to their interest groups.
7 posted on 02/13/2007 8:34:27 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: zarf
This is the same House that dithered and lost Rome?

Funny, I don't recall you posting the same sentiments on the thread yesterday where Rudy got the backing of two Congresscritters. Rather selective indignation if you ask me.

8 posted on 02/13/2007 8:34:58 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dirtboy
But ... but ... but ... the Rudy boosters told me no one would support Hunter because he has no chance of winning! What gives?

Based on my knowledge of such folks, they'll be saying that up to and including the moment when they pull the Democrat lever in November 2008.
9 posted on 02/13/2007 8:35:26 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: dirtboy
Funny, I don't recall you posting the same sentiments on the thread yesterday where Rudy got the backing of two Congresscritters. Rather selective indignation if you ask me.

LOL. Rudy gets the support of one Congress Critter, it's huge news. An article indicates that Hunter has the support of lots of Congress Critters and it's non-news.

Funny how that works. :-)
10 posted on 02/13/2007 8:36:38 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: zarf
***This is the same House that dithered and lost Rome?***

Actually that was the 'Senate' and they 'lost Rome' in 410 AD to Alaric, King of the Visigoths.

(Actually Rome was 'lost' a few times. But '410' is the most famous)

11 posted on 02/13/2007 8:36:54 AM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go sit down Rudy])
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To: Antoninus

It won't matter. Hunter will appeal to a large swath of the GOP with or without Tancredo's endorsement. That said, when tancredo drops out, he will likely support Hunter.


12 posted on 02/13/2007 8:37:21 AM PST by pissant
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To: Condor51
Actually that was the 'Senate' and they 'lost Rome' in 410 AD to Alaric, King of the Visigoths.

A little less Google searching and a stress pill would do you wonders.

13 posted on 02/13/2007 8:40:18 AM PST by zarf
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To: Condor51
Actually that was the 'Senate' and they 'lost Rome' in 410 AD to Alaric, King of the Visigoths.

Actually, I think it was the Emperor Honorius who had his brilliant general, Stilicho, killed a couple years before and then cowered behind the swamps in Ravenna when Alaric invaded Italy, who must bear most of the blame for that.
14 posted on 02/13/2007 8:40:26 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: pissant

I like Tancredo but Hunter has a much better chance.


15 posted on 02/13/2007 8:41:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: zarf
A little less Google searching and a stress pill would do you wonders.

So you're saying that your post was just nonsensical, then?
16 posted on 02/13/2007 8:41:32 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: zarf
If Hunter gets the nomination I can guarantee you he will get the NRA endorsement. The best your guy could get is HCI.
17 posted on 02/13/2007 8:41:49 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Antoninus

It's beginning to look that way. I wish guys like Brownback and Tancredo would just ditch the presidential talk and back Hunter.


You're right. We only need one conservative candidate. The other guys could gain stature with the conservatives by putting principle over ambition at this point. While I'd vote for Newt, his baggage would probably keep him from winning in the general election. Newt should make his decision now and support someone else if he's not running.


18 posted on 02/13/2007 8:42:13 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Hunter '08)
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To: dirtboy
Funny, I don't recall you posting the same sentiments on the thread yesterday where Rudy got the backing of two Congresscritters. Rather selective indignation if you ask me. 8 posted on

Why should I? At least those Congresslosers have sense enough to recognize their own failure and are reaching out for some real leadership

19 posted on 02/13/2007 8:42:24 AM PST by zarf
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To: cripplecreek
I like Tancredo but Hunter has a much better chance.

Agreed. Hunter has more bona-fides, less baggage. He's a better candidate all around.
20 posted on 02/13/2007 8:42:29 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Antoninus
While Duncan Hunter was 'in country' fighting real terrorists (V.C.), Rudy was weaseling his way OUT of service with the help of a friendly Federal Judge (and boinking his cousin, but that's another matter).

GO DUNCAN!!!
(Rangers Lead The Way!)

21 posted on 02/13/2007 8:43:39 AM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go sit down Rudy])
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To: zarf
Why should I? At least those Congresslosers have sense enough to recognize their own failure and are reaching out for some real leadership

LOL. GOP failures in Congress may be laid squarely at the feet of the Rudy McRomney RINOs who effectively worked with Democrats to block just about every conservative initiative that came down the pike.
22 posted on 02/13/2007 8:45:08 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: beltfed308
Newt is the only conservative hope and he'll get torn to shreads by the press.

Hunter is another FR constructed white knight fantasy in the George Allen crash and burn mold.

He's as attractive as a old baseball glove with the personality of Brother Theodore.

He dead Jim.

23 posted on 02/13/2007 8:45:28 AM PST by zarf
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To: zarf
At least those Congresslosers have sense enough to recognize their own failure and are reaching out for some real leadership.

Either that or they're just willing to be sellouts. Rudy? Leadership? The guy who pushed a corrupt business crony to be head of DHS is a LEADER?

The guy who sited the NYC emergency command center in the WTC despite a previous attack and despite serious misgivings from those in the know is a LEADER?

24 posted on 02/13/2007 8:45:54 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: zarf
Hunter is another FR constructed white knight fantasy in the George Allen crash and burn mold.

Rudy is another Rockefeller Republican black knight ("It's just a flesh wound") who thinks he's winning with both arms hacked off and who seeks to return the GOP to the glory days of 1992.

25 posted on 02/13/2007 8:47:12 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: zarf
***A little less Google searching and a stress pill would do you wonders.***

Actually I only needed Google for the correct spelling of "Alaric". And I don't take my 'stress pill' until 5:00 pm (CST). Unless you mean my Blood Pressure pill which is at 5:00 am (or there abouts).

26 posted on 02/13/2007 8:49:28 AM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go sit down Rudy])
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To: zarf
Hunter is another FR constructed white knight fantasy in the George Allen crash and burn mold. He's as attractive as a old baseball glove with the personality of Brother Theodore.

I'd still support him over a black knight fantasy in the Lincoln Chaffee betray-and-backstab mold. Rudy's about as attractive as P.W. Botha, with the gravitas of Richard Simmons and the moral fibre of Rosie O'Donnell.
27 posted on 02/13/2007 8:49:48 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: dirtboy
The guy who sited the NYC emergency command center in the WTC despite a previous attack and despite serious misgivings from those in the know is a LEADER?

THose of us who lived in NYC during his administration actually experienced the fruits of his leadership. It was felt at street level and was undeniable.

28 posted on 02/13/2007 8:52:13 AM PST by zarf ("I've gazed into the abyss and the abyss gazed into me, and neither of us liked what we saw.")
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To: Condor51; zarf
Actually I only needed Google for the correct spelling of "Alaric".

I think you gave ol' Zarfy too much credit in the historical knowledge department. I've found that Rudy's random-slogan-generators tend not to have a lot of substance behind their one-liners.
29 posted on 02/13/2007 8:52:52 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: beltfed308; Condor51; dirtboy; Antoninus

Hello Zarf?

Can't HEAR you!!! LOL


30 posted on 02/13/2007 8:53:01 AM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: zarf
"He dead Jim."

It's "He's dead Jim", and I agree 100 percent, Rudy is dead to all but the Liberals pretending to be Republicans.And unlike your god Rudy, the person whom you quoted also served honorably in the Military(no deferment needed).

31 posted on 02/13/2007 8:53:55 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: zarf
THose of us who lived in NYC during his administration actually experienced the fruits of his leadership.

Now that's funny.

BTW, Ed Rendell did almost exactly the same thing here in Philadelphia as Rudy did in NYC. Would you support him for president, too?

The fact that the national economy took off concurrent to both of those guys attaining their offices has nothing to do with the improving conditions, though, right?
32 posted on 02/13/2007 8:55:29 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Antoninus

Duncan Hunter is the "Patriot with the big (R)"

Thanks for the ping.......


33 posted on 02/13/2007 8:57:38 AM PST by panaxanax (Ronald Reagan would vote for Duncan Hunter!)
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To: zarf
THose of us who lived in NYC during his administration actually experienced the fruits of his leadership. It was felt at street level and was undeniable.

Nightsticks tend to do that. LOL
34 posted on 02/13/2007 8:58:36 AM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: zarf
THose of us who lived in NYC during his administration actually experienced the fruits of his leadership. It was felt at street level and was undeniable.

Those of us who do not live in NYC look at Rudy's choice of Kerik to be head of Homeland Security and realize the guy ain't ready for prime time on a national level. His candidacy is all about the entrenched interests in the GOP burrowing in even deeper.

35 posted on 02/13/2007 8:59:49 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: zarf
THose of us who lived in NYC

I don't live in NY and neither do people in the fly over states. Him looking real purty in a dress will earn him no points outside NY.

36 posted on 02/13/2007 9:02:00 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Antoninus
***Actually, I think it was the Emperor Honorius who had his brilliant general, Stilicho, killed a couple years before and then cowered behind the swamps in Ravenna when Alaric invaded Italy, who must bear most of the blame for that.***

Okay, ya got me :-)

However, the subject of the "Fall of Rome" gets complicate as most forget Rome was split into Two Empires with Two Emperors and the 'Eastern Roman Empire' continued on as the Byzantine Empire and held on until Constantinople was lost in 1453. (Basically I had no Idea of where zarf was going with the 'Lost Rome' reference. So for fun I threw out the 410 sacking.)

Thread hijack -- OVER. Let's get back to Duncan. The ONLY Conservative candidate ;-)

37 posted on 02/13/2007 9:02:23 AM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go sit down Rudy])
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To: zarf
THose of us who lived in NYC during his administration actually experienced the fruits of his leadership.

Was that Rudy leading the fruits in the gay pride parades?

38 posted on 02/13/2007 9:03:43 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: beltfed308
Was that Rudy leading the fruits in the gay pride parades?

No gay pride parades in fly over country?

Ah, that's right I forgot! It's all church, buttermilk and happy marriages!

40 posted on 02/13/2007 9:07:55 AM PST by zarf ("I am what you call a "controversial figure". People either hate me or they despise me.")
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To: Antoninus

This is a step in the right direction! I can respect why some New Yorkers love Rudy - but what's good for NY, isn't necessarily what's good for the rest of the country. Maybe Rudy would be a good Attorney General?

GO DUNCAN HUNTER!!!


41 posted on 02/13/2007 9:10:06 AM PST by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President - 2008!)
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To: sandyeggo
Just as an FYI, Rudy just came right out and said he believed in Global Warming. The thread is Here on FreeRepublic. Make sure you read the source.
42 posted on 02/13/2007 9:11:34 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: pissant

Bachmann is definitely a hot endorsement for any candidate


43 posted on 02/13/2007 9:29:30 AM PST by TheeOhioInfidel (ATTENTION: THERE IS A REAL CONSERVATIVE RUNNING IN '08: DUNCAN HUNTER)
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To: Antoninus

We've got Momentum.

One thing I have noticed is that the RINO wing of the party has crossed the line from ignoring its base to actively trying to discard us. Otherwise, why all the acrimony over some candidate who supposedly has no chance?


44 posted on 02/13/2007 9:34:10 AM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: zarf
No gay pride parades in fly over country?

The southern decadence wanted to hold their gay pride parade in Lafayette when Katrina ran them out of NO either the Mayor or the police chief told them...'we don't do that stuff here'.

After Hurricane Katrina, Durel refused to issue a parade permit for "Southern Decadence," a group of gay activists who had earlier organized an annual gathering planned for New Orleans. "I don't consider anything that's got the word 'decadence' in it to be normalcy," Durel told The Lafayette Daily Advertiser, in explaining why he rejected "Decadence's" request. "If they want to have some semblance of normalcy, I would expect them to respect the normalcy of the community of Lafayette, whatever the hell that means" he added.

[edit] Durel will run again in 2007

Ya gotta love that part in bold. So, we don't cotton to gay pride parades and don't want them shoved in the faces of our children.

45 posted on 02/13/2007 9:35:08 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Kevmo

I look at it this way. Rudy has the maximum amount of momentum he is going to get right now. The media is adoring - they have pushed him as the front runner, practically non-stop. His biggest advantage is his name recognition & the way he handled himself after 9/11. Neither is enough for me to trust him to handle the duties of Commander in Chief.

Once the public starts hearing about the liberal side of Rudy, most Republicans are going to experience some degree of dissatisfaction about having to hold their nose, once again to vote. They are going to wish they had a real conservative, along the lines of Ronald Reagan to support.

With enthusiastic supporters that wholeheartedly believe in their candidate - Duncan Hunter's name will start to filter out there to the masses of the people. Hunter's momentum will start to grow.

Rudy, like a racehorse that bolts out of the gate 1st, giving it everything he's got - will start to slow down during a long race. His momentum will start falling.

GO DUNCAN HUNTER!!!


46 posted on 02/13/2007 9:42:55 AM PST by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President - 2008!)
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To: zarf

"He dead Jim."

Then so is the republican party.


47 posted on 02/13/2007 9:47:54 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Antoninus; All

Hunter is on CSPAN right now.


48 posted on 02/13/2007 10:31:13 AM PST by TheeOhioInfidel (ATTENTION: THERE IS A REAL CONSERVATIVE RUNNING IN '08: DUNCAN HUNTER)
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To: Antoninus

Go Duncan ~ you da man!!


49 posted on 02/13/2007 10:38:07 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Antoninus

I agree, Antonius. Given the policy positions that many of these same posters have taken on FR, it's clear that their support for the mayor doesn't come from a belief that he's the best candidate for Republicans, but rather out of a desire to ensure that the two largest parties don't offer the electorate the choice of a social conservative.


50 posted on 02/13/2007 11:11:12 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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