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House Democrats' New Strategy: Force Slow End to War
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| February 14, 2007
| John Bresnahan
Posted on 02/14/2007 8:00:35 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Pukin Dog
We have a lot of those nutjobs right here on FR. It's a shame because we know the media reads FR and after seeing some of the crazier comments around here, I almost can't blame the media for thinking Republicans are either a) nuts or b) hate-filled. We're seeing living proof right here on FR.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:38:04 AM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
To: Mo1
"I don't know how you vote against Murtha," said Andrews. "It's kind of an ingenious thing." Why is it so hard to vote against a senile traitor? It's not.
To: Pukin Dog
My anger is reserved for the 100%ers, the nutcases who have infected the Right with the negativity that will insure Democrat rule for the next 20 years. 'Rats. RINOs. What's the diff?
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:40:24 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: Pukin Dog
My anger is reserved for the 100%ers, the nutcases who have infected the Right with the negativity that will insure Democrat rule for the next 20 years.
Well said, Dog. The comments on FR lately make my skin crawl. I will add enough already with the nastiness, incessant whining, and the defeatist attitude that the Pantsuit and Co. are invincible.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:41:50 AM PST
by
Miss Didi
("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
To: Mo1
Soooooo... liberal democrats want literally bleed the war effort to a standstill by hanging US troops out to twist in the desrt wind, along with an entire nation of Iraquis? Is there any reason to doubt that liberalism is evil?
It is all that is gutless, sneaking, and yellow to the core. It is a disease of the soul, a childish attempt at escaping responsibility, knowledge, reality, rather than any coherent set of political beliefs.
It is the worship of the zero on the alter of failure. It is death.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:45:49 AM PST
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
To: Mo1
Top House Democrats, working in concert with anti-war groups, have decided against using congressional power to force a quick end to U.S. involvement in Iraq, and instead will pursue a slow-bleed strategy designed to gradually limit the administration's options.
Literally.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:46:50 AM PST
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
To: Mo1
So Bush needs to get those troops moving now ahead of this legislation.
Alternatively, I fully believe that if the ROE in Iraq were to kill the enemy no matter what, and to take the handcuffs off our troops allowing them to do same, we might just not need those 21K additional troops.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:47:03 AM PST
by
cinives
(On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
To: Peach
True enough, and very sad, because as you noted, EVERYONE reads this site to get the pulse on what Conservatives are thinking. Sadly, we have become an embarassment that many are backing away from in droves. Outside of the cursing, what is the difference today between us and DU? So many uniformed comments, so much emotional rhetoric and ignorance of facts, all in an attempt to be the smartest person in the room, rather than to forward the cause.
I used to rant all the time about the simple fact that you cant do squat if you dont win, only to be shouted down by creeps with agendas beyond the Conservative cause.
One example: Duncan Hunter.
I live in San Diego County and I KNOW Duncan Hunter, and I can tell you that his chances for the Presidency are worse than mine. Any Freeper could do a bit of digging and find a TON of financial malfeasence and dirty dealing in Hunter's background, but because he parrots a good Conservative speak, many just jump on that train with nothing but their own ignorance to guide them. It is embarassing to watch, and it reminds me of the same foolishness that cause so-called Conservatives to back Ross Perot, leading to the Clinton presidency.
Nuts will be nuts, but you would think that with Google and other tools, that Conservatives would have enough energy to back up their positions with facts. Until that happens, Conservatism is DOOMED.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:50:26 AM PST
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: Pukin Dog
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:52:16 AM PST
by
sick1
(Don't fear the freeper)
To: Mo1; armymarinemom; Doctor Raoul; Just A Nobody; tgslTakoma
The enemy within reveals their battle plan.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:55:29 AM PST
by
kristinn
To: Txsleuth
"the House Democratic leadership, will seek to limit the time and number of deployments by soldiers, Marines and National Guard units to Iraq, making it tougher for Pentagon officials to find the troops to replace units that are scheduled to rotate out of the country. "
The dems plan will not allow the troops to stay.
To: Pukin Dog
Wait until Sam Johnson speaks tomorrow on the Floor of the House.
If they are not shamed, they never will be.
Here is a quote by Sam Johnson yesterday.
"Words can't fully describe the unspeakable damage of the anti-American efforts against the war back home to the guys on the ground" in Vietnam, said Johnson, R-Texas, who was released 34 years ago on Tuesday.
He spent 7 years as a POW in North Vietnam, and was still a POW when the Democrats defunded the war in Vietnam, he said he thought they would be there forever after hearing about it.
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:01:11 AM PST
by
mware
(By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
To: mware
Sam spoke in front of the Rules Committee, saying those exact things, on Monday night...they just dismissed him with barely a thank you for MISSING a tribute dinner held for HIM...just to speak before them.
The Dems totally dismissed his speech.
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:07:03 AM PST
by
Txsleuth
To: Txsleuth
The Dems totally dismissed his speech. Because they don't care
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:12:58 AM PST
by
Mo1
( http://www.gohunter08.com)
To: Pukin Dog
Conservativism among the people is far from doomed, emotional posters or not.
Conservatism as a Washington DC political movement is on the ropes for sure, but what will save it will be determined by the actions of the Republican leadership in Washington.
It wasn't a bunch of misinformed voters who cost the Republicans the House and Senate... It was the absurd political positions taken by Rep. politicos. When a Republican takes the same positions as a democrat on a majority of the issues, it's time for him or her to go. THAT is what defeats conservativism on the governmental level.
The democrat party will lie, cheat, steal, and beg to get your vote for two reasons: 1)Their only concern is the expansion of power, and; 2) Democrat voters, especially liberals, don't vote with their minds or consciences... they vote to maintain or expand the power base of democrats and government in general. Democrats and their voters care most for what is best for their party, and little for what is best for America.
Conservative voters, on the other hand, DO vote their minds and consciences. They are generally less politically active but better politically informed. They have a better understanding of the workings of government and the Constitution. They care about the future of their country FIRST, and the well-being of their party second. Therefore, when their candidates behave exactly as the opposing team does, many believe it is time to start fresh, rather than just voting like a bunch of democrats.
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:13:25 AM PST
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
To: snowrip
You just made my point.
"The democrat party will lie, cheat, steal, and beg to get your vote for two reasons: 1)Their only concern is the expansion of power, and; 2) Democrat voters, especially liberals, don't vote with their minds or consciences... they vote to maintain or expand the power base of democrats and government in general. Democrats and their voters care most for what is best for their party, and little for what is best for America."
Knowing this, there is no excuse for voting to allow Democrats to gain the power to do what YOU KNOW they will do, so that you can sooth your own mind by punishing a RINO. It is simply the most stupid, selfish and egotistical expression to vote out a Republican, RINO or not, and allow Democrats to take over, regardles of your feelings, because you have a solution, called a PRIMARY!
You just proved that there is NO REASONING behind what some of you are doing, do the detriment of your own agenda. It is ALL ABOUT YOU, not Conservatism, not the defeat of Liberals, you just want some payback.
IT IS NUTS!
I rest my case.
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:22:01 AM PST
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: Txsleuth
According to Fox & FRiends he will be speaking on the floor of the House tomorrow. Basically I believe repeating many of these same thoughts.
The R leadership is sure to give him prime time so his message can be heard.
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:24:30 AM PST
by
mware
(By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
To: Pukin Dog
LOL...I was just sitting back and waiting for your response to that last post to you!!!
You didn't let me down!
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:27:36 AM PST
by
Txsleuth
To: mware
I hope they give him some "prime" time...because his message on Monday night...though a short one, was quite powerful.
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:28:45 AM PST
by
Txsleuth
To: Peach
No need to get upset the democrats in D.C. are nothing but a seething pool of stupidity and proud of it,they have the same play book they have used from 1960 and veryone knows that the democrat party in owned by the anti American group.
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posted on
02/14/2007 9:37:06 AM PST
by
Vaduz
(and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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