Welfare State Stasis (America Is A Welfare State)

Washington Post ^ | 14 February 2007 | Robert J. Samuelson

[shrinkermd]

If someone could post the table I would appreciate it. This article basically tells us the truth--the future is here, the welfare state is here and the cries of gimmee, gimmee have only just begun.

[Atlas Sneezed]

[Menehune56]

Good article, thanks for posting it.

[dynachrome]

Your "gimmee, gimmee" table. Mirrors the rise of liberalism.

[winodog]

And thats why I am real close to doing an about face on health care. I know if the gov gets involved they will screw it up. I dont see how they can afford it.

Nonetheless all the bums on welfare get "free" medical care
All the bums who get a check from gov.org, city.org,state.org etc. get free medical for life.
Medical for my son and I has almost become something I cannot afford.
Why shouldnt I get free care if everyone that doesnt produce does.

[dynachrome]

I am late to the party again. LOL

[raybbr]

Let's make a little bigger.

[silentreignofheroes]

Corporate America is Bankrupt,,America is not,,,If you don't think you are a part of Corporate America,look at your SS Card...Every letter is in Caps,,pure business folks..

[gotribe]

When will I get mine?

[gotribe]

Yep. If I were counseling a young person today about careers, I would tell them to go into government or teaching. I've never seen a retired teacher or bureaucrat in poverty, and no matter who is in office their jobs are secure.

[dynachrome]

Better than "cats in bikinis". shudder

[ozaukeemom]

The company I work for is an administrator for certain insurance companies dealing with Medicaid and some Medicare. We do not handle every state and yet handle over 8 million members. Pretty scary.

[ozaukeemom]

My Dad is a retired teacher. Let me tell you, my folks do not have much extra and struggle at times. They are surviving because they do tax prep for 4 months a year. We did not have extras as I was growing up but had a great childhood. My father was and is anti-union and is a very strong conservative.

[gotribe]

Right, but he's not in poverty. They take 10% off the top from the git-go for retirement. Tough when you're young, but smart.

[fruitintheroom]

I know a public school teacher couple in NY State who currently make a combined $100,000 per year. Oh yeah, and they've both been RETIRED for several years.

You should have lived in NY.

[ozaukeemom]

I think the max my Dad made, and he was retired about 7 years ago, was less than $40K a year. But, he loved teaching and to this day has former students contact him for various reasons. He also wanted to be able to spend time with his family and my mom stayed home, so they made sacrifices. And, they might be at poverty level if they didn't work from Jan-April every year. I do believe that teachers now have it sooo much easier, more money, more benefits, less time they have to work and seem to have less commitment. Just my take, though. :)

[ozaukeemom]

You will laugh. I grew up in Vermont! BUT, it was when it was conservative. My poor parents have to live among the liberals. For now. They would like to move out to Nevada eventually.

[fruitintheroom]

I'm not laughing because I grew up in upstate NY (not far from Vermont) and would love to go back to the Adirondacks.....maybe leave for a month or two in mid-winter....but, things are just so different there now.

[secretagent]

Social Security as welfare? Didn't recipients pay into it?

[TheDon]

Man, how I wish I could control my own retirement, i.e. SS. Sigh...