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"H.R. 1022: To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes"
Les Jones Blog ^ | February 14, 2007 | Les Jones

Posted on 02/14/2007 9:49:48 PM PST by FreedomCalls

H.R. 1022 has been introduced in committee.

From The High Road, where there's lots of discussion and political fingerpointing. Examples:

"Well, all you folks who voted for anyone but a republican now know what the next 2-10 years are going to be like. Maybe longer."

Which was countered by:

"Plus, even if it does pass, all you good Republicans have nothing to worry about because your President will veto it, right? Remember, you guys all said Bush was just playing politics when he said he would sign a new AWB. You guys don't think you are wrong now, do you? Do you?"

Yep. Bush said in the 2004 election that he would sign the AWB renewal if it came across his desk. At the time, he was confident of a Republican Congress keeping that from happening. What could possiblie go wrong? The 2006 elections went wrong, Democrats now control both houses of Congress, and Bush's words are coming back to haunt gunowners.

Still, Bush and a Republican Congress were very good for gunowners. The AWB was allowed to expire in 2004, and the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms act protects gun companies from frivolous lawsuits that were threatening to destroy them.

This renewal probably won't go through, but another one might after the next election. This is exactly why I'm only buying semi-autos between now and the end of 2008. Just in case. If anything is banned it will be semi-automatics. And if they aren't banned outright they will be regulated - as in the 1994 AWB - with regards to magazine capacities of more than 10 rounds and "evil" features like collapsible/folding stocks and flash hiders.


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1 posted on 02/14/2007 9:49:50 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls

We can only hope that the 'Rats keep this alive through the election season...


2 posted on 02/14/2007 10:05:03 PM PST by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: FreedomCalls

What do these pro-gun-control politicians have to fear from armed citizens? If they aren't doing anything wrong, what do they have to worry about?


3 posted on 02/14/2007 10:07:38 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Mary Carey 2008! It is time for better boobs in DC.)
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To: FreedomCalls

I've made it clear elsewehere and I'm making it clear here.

This country is regulated by the Constitution of the United States, as it is written.

Any attempt to deny me my inalianable rights without Constitutional Amendment through due process will be resisted by force.

I don't blame Liberals for trying to re-write the Constitution, I blame those who claim their rights are being infringed and who do nothing to stop it.

There will always be tyrants, but there aren't always enough freedom loving citizens to resist and defeat the tyrants.

It makes no difference to me though.

Alone, or united with freedom loving Patriots, I have given away all I intend to.

Live free or die.


4 posted on 02/14/2007 10:09:26 PM PST by jeffers
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To: All

Buy all the high capacity mags you can get your hands on, and I mean now!! You may also want to look at buying some weapons for investment. Buy some AR-15 type rifles as an investment for around $900 and put them away without shooting them. Make sure they have all of the "assault weapon" characteristics. Wait until 5 or so years after the "Assault Weapons" Ban goes into place and start selling those rifles for $1,700+. I saw some of them going for $2,500 4 years after the 1994 gun ban.

What I have always found amusing is that the gun ban compliant weapons were functionally no different than the pre-ban weapons, but the term "pre-ban" would drive the price up like crazy, and people will pay it!

PS: Be sure to keep a pre-ban rifle for yourself as they tend to give you some status among the folks out on the range.


5 posted on 02/14/2007 10:18:51 PM PST by KoRn
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To: MichiganConservative

" If they aren't doing anything wrong, what do they have to worry about?"

I think you just answered your own question : )


6 posted on 02/14/2007 10:20:52 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Reagan would vote for Hunter)
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To: MichiganConservative

Hey don't get uppity now.
You should well know that they don't have to practice what they preach
That as good subjects we have no right to have our government adhere to the laws it passes on us.
NOT.


7 posted on 02/14/2007 10:24:12 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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To: KoRn

This is horrible legislation and I hope it does not pass but I did make some serious spending money on Glock magazines after the last one.


8 posted on 02/14/2007 10:27:51 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Man that didn't take long. How long do those idiots think they can keep screwing with gun owners before something bad happens? I'm amazed at their arrogance!
9 posted on 02/14/2007 10:30:56 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: volunbeer

The problem with these freaks is that they could do anything like pass a law making possesion and transfer of any number of items illegal.
Once they whip themselves into a frenzy they could pass any number of insane unconstitutional laws.


10 posted on 02/14/2007 10:36:00 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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To: FreedomCalls
Yep. Bush said in the 2004 election that he would sign the AWB renewal if it came across his desk. At the time, he was confident of a Republican Congress keeping that from happening. What could possiblie go wrong? The 2006 elections went wrong, Democrats now control both houses of Congress, and Bush's words are coming back to haunt gunowners.

Time to pick up that Garand I've been wanting. I got rid of my AK's thinking I didn't really need them. Like grandpa missing out on IBM stock, we all do stupid things.

11 posted on 02/14/2007 10:42:33 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: MichiganConservative

"What do these pro-gun-control politicians have to fear from armed citizens? If they aren't doing anything wrong, what do they have to worry about?"



The whole concept of Freedom just scares the crap out of them, I reckon. I'm not going to waste time analyzing motives, I'm just going to say, "out of my cold, dead hands"! If anyone thinks I'm bluffing, bring it on!
The debate is circular, and endless, and I'm done with debate!


12 posted on 02/14/2007 11:07:07 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

SWAMPSNIPER wrote:
"What do these pro-gun-control politicians have to fear from armed citizens? If they aren't doing anything
wrong, what do they have to worry about?"


The whole concept of Freedom just scares the crap out of them, I reckon. I'm not going to waste time
analyzing motives, I'm just going to say, "out of my cold, dead hands"! If anyone thinks I'm bluffing, bring
it on!
The debate is circular, and endless, and I'm done with debate!



Excellent.

I stand with you.

The Constitution of the United States supercedes any and all attempts to legislate it out of existence without due process, and I hereby re-affirm my intention to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States with my life as sacrifice if need be.

No more talk, no more unconstitutional laws, if you want my rights, come and try to take them.


13 posted on 02/14/2007 11:49:46 PM PST by jeffers
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To: FreedomCalls

Eh, I'm from California, so it irritates me immensely but doesn't really affect me.

However, it might turn out to be a boon. We all know the whupping the rats got after the '94 ban, maybe that'll repeat itself.

That said, I think the rat congresscritters from semi-gun friendly states won't jump on board this time. Even so, folks like Feinswine and Boxer (my local senators) can vote as they please with no fear of political repercussion.


14 posted on 02/15/2007 1:03:14 AM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: FreedomCalls; All
Keep these handy:

http://www.gunfacts.info/
Gun Facts is a free e-book that debunks common myths about gun control. It is intended as a reference guide for journalist, activists, politicians, and other people interested in restoring honesty to the debate about guns, crime, and the 2nd Amendment.
Gun Facts has 84 pages of information. Divided into chapters based on gun control topics (assault weapons, ballistic finger printing, firearm availability, etc.), finding information is quick and easy.

The FIVE-MINUTE HANDBOOK (RKBA)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/937190/posts
15 posted on 02/15/2007 4:37:06 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: backhoe; Joe Brower; neverdem

awww F***, not again..........

They do this every year.


16 posted on 02/15/2007 4:41:12 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I seem to remember your saying that the democrats would not push gun control because they knew it was a loser for them. I'd say that this is gun control (Oh and btw if I have the wrong person, sorry about that)
17 posted on 02/15/2007 4:44:07 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) is back once again with her annual attempt to reinstate the AWB.

Gee, what a surprise.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

18 posted on 02/15/2007 6:12:14 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have two speeds: "graze" and "stampede".)
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To: FreedomCalls; All
In case you didn't notice, the ban stayed in affect even though it lapsed. The BATF makes its own laws without regard to Congress. Just look around, you will find that nothing can be imported now that was on the ban list. In fact, more has been banned since the bill expired.

You actually believe that we are running a Republic here, don't you?

19 posted on 02/15/2007 6:12:21 AM PST by GingisK
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To: FreedomCalls

I will not comply. Enough is enough.


20 posted on 02/15/2007 6:26:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

It is a miracle that Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) was even elected and has managed to remain a congresscritter. She is a one-act show and darn near the only thing she talks about is firearms and how she was impacted by the shooting of her husband and son. Her response to that criminal tragedy at the hands of a proven madman is inappropriate.

~ Blue Jays ~

21 posted on 02/15/2007 6:26:43 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: GingisK
You actually believe that we are running a Republic here, don't you?

We haven't been a Republic since before the New Deal. Things are just playing out now to their logical conclusions.

Where's that reset switch at?

22 posted on 02/15/2007 6:27:21 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: FreedomCalls

The left wants to take guns away from law-abiding citizens so that it can impose its fascist rule.


23 posted on 02/15/2007 6:32:42 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (NRA: not about to give in and give up on freedom. "Pry From my Cold Hands")
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To: Joe Brower
It is no surprise to me....I just wonder how the so called conservative southern reps that got elected will vote on this issue....Our fight against the antis will go on way past my life time.....We had man killed here in Bradenton Fla yesterday....He came home and found two perps who were breaking into his house. He confronted them with a knife and was shot and killed...To bad he did not take advantage of Florida CCW laws and then he might have stood a chance...He should have pulled back and called the cops..It is sad to see that he left a wife of 32 years....I try all the time to tell friends you do not have to be a victim....
24 posted on 02/15/2007 6:39:53 AM PST by RNO1 (POW's Never Ever Have A Good Day)
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To: Blue Jays
It is a miracle that Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) was even elected and has managed to remain a congresscritte

She continues to be elected because the majority of the voters in her district (Long Island) have the same fear and loathing of guns, freedom, and the 2nd A that she does. She wasn't elected by accident. She was elected because the majority of her electorate agree with her.

25 posted on 02/15/2007 6:47:21 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: NRA2BFree
> How long do those idiots think they can keep screwing with gun owners before something bad happens?

Lately, that exact thought has been crossing my mind a great deal. Almost daily, recently.

The libs are like Bugs Bunny in the Yosemite-Sam-as-a-pirate cartoon. Bugs keeps throwing lit matches down into the gunpowder storage room -- you know that, sooner or later, one of those matches is gonna cause the thing to blow. The libs keep throwing "lit matches" too.... but just because none of them caused an explosion so far, they think it'll never happen. If they keep it up, they may get a response that they didn't expect.

You can step on the neck of an armed populace for only so long. I foresee a second American Revolution coming -- not only about gun control, but so many other issues also.

26 posted on 02/15/2007 6:55:33 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: RNO1
Bradenton's about 30 miles north of my AO. Yes, I read about that poor fellow in the Herald-Tribune today. From the sound of it, one of the perps is related to a neighbor (where the Sheriff found the BG's car in the driveway).

This old fellow made several large tactical mistakes in engaging the bad guys, not the least of which was immediately attempting to go head-on at them with a knife. Of course, it's a helluva note to think that your average homeowner would need to benefit from tactical training in their own front yard.

27 posted on 02/15/2007 6:56:15 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have two speeds: "graze" and "stampede".)
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To: Joe Brower

Joe unfortunely here in Bradenton it is getting to be a tactial neighborhood every where....Our crime rate is soaring right now...My wife and I are both lic to carry and do...I am going to Port Charlotte tomorrow to the DAV there...Some day maybe we can have a cup together with maybe a few others from our area....Wes


28 posted on 02/15/2007 7:10:31 AM PST by RNO1 (POW's Never Ever Have A Good Day)
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To: from occupied ga
One would think those Long Island citizens would eventually come to expect some work output from Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) other than breathless rants about eeeeevvvil handguns. She certainly deserves sympathy as a victim of violent crime...but her energies are utterly and completely misplaced!
29 posted on 02/15/2007 7:11:09 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: jeffers

It really irks me to admit this but as far as I can see our US Constitutional law is only of concern to our elected officials when it favors them or their agenda. With respect to the freedoms it spells out for us common citizens it's already become just a meaningless piece of paper. What's worse, to reinstate it to it's original purpose will require the spilling of blood. I don't mean to sound haughty but absolute and total power is the food of tyrants. Patrick Henry made two very important points in his argument favoring the second amendment. He said (paraphrased) if the gov takes control of our purse and we have no guns what are we to do, just tell them to give it back? The IRS thugs are well established.


30 posted on 02/15/2007 7:15:14 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Blue Jays
One would think those Long Island citizens would eventually come to expect some work output from Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) other than breathless rants about eeeeevvvil handguns

They're New Yorkers. They're from the most left wing part of the most left wing state in the nation. They think the sun shines out of H Clinton's backside, and they think Guiliani is a conservative, and by their standards he is. Left wing socialists hate guns, hate freedom, and above all else want to impose their viewpoint on everyone else. By their standards she is working.

She certainly deserves sympathy

deserves deserved By putting herself in the political arena and going after our freedom, she forfited any sympathy she might have once been entitled to.

31 posted on 02/15/2007 7:21:17 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
Same with me... I'm in New Jersey so I don't have any rights anymore.

But to tell the truth, the only reason the Democrats got congress is because they ran pro-life, pro-gun candidates that looked more like Republicans than our current presidential candidates. I don't think it's do-able legislation. I think if they shoved it down our throats it'll be the last we see of the Democrats for a while.

32 posted on 02/15/2007 7:25:23 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: FreedomCalls

Buy high capacity magazines for any guns YOU MIGHT be buying down the road.


33 posted on 02/15/2007 7:26:55 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (The Coldest Blood Runs through my veins..you know my name..)
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To: Centurion2000

AK-47s are fun...Im going to buy one soon....probably start with the entry level WASR-10 modified to accept high capacity mags..$329 bucks..you cant beat it if it works.


34 posted on 02/15/2007 7:28:37 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (The Coldest Blood Runs through my veins..you know my name..)
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To: volunbeer

I bought five glock 17 mags just after christmas and I plan to get an additional ten very soon.


35 posted on 02/15/2007 7:29:45 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (The Coldest Blood Runs through my veins..you know my name..)
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To: FreedomCalls

Buy your guns now, and don't forget to buy lots of ammo for them, because that is next on their hit list. Get it by the caseload, it's cheaper that way.


36 posted on 02/15/2007 7:40:33 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: MichiganConservative

What do they have to fear?

Nothing.

Nothing at all.

As proven by the last AWB, even the sheep with pointy teeth will roll over, bleating profusely but doing nothing in opposition. They'll get creatively compliant, but compliant nonetheless.

Doesn't matter what the pols are doing, they have nothing to worry about.


37 posted on 02/15/2007 7:48:58 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Joe Brower

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/16705204.htm
This happened real close to where I live....I heard the sheriff helicopter while this took place...Course that is a every day occasion in Brandenton anymore...I am getting my wife to pick up a glock to go with several other handguns she has...I have one and love it....It is bullet proof and never ever failed to fire for me....I have others but that is my primary carry weapon as of now......


38 posted on 02/15/2007 7:52:24 AM PST by RNO1 (POW's Never Ever Have A Good Day)
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To: FreedomCalls

bttt


39 posted on 02/15/2007 7:53:15 AM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: NRA2BFree

Nothing ever did happen.
Nothing is happeneing.
Ergo, they don't expect anything ever will happen.
So why stop?


40 posted on 02/15/2007 7:56:28 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: jeffers

Yawn.

Been hearing that one for a couple decades.

When is "24" on?


41 posted on 02/15/2007 8:00:39 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: from occupied ga
Hi from occupied ga-

You are absolutely correct. Excellent point about how Representative McCarthy has essentially forfeited her right to scrutiny. She could have continued the relative comfort of private-sector existence rather than transitioning to the bright glare of public-sector life.

~ Blue Jays ~

42 posted on 02/15/2007 8:07:14 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: NRA2BFree
How long do those idiots think they can keep screwing with gun owners before something bad happens?

Maybe they got the idea from the presidential preference polls. If they see that over half of all Republicans think that a proven anti-2nd Amendment gun banner like Giuliani would be a great president, then it's reasonable for them to believe that reauthorizing the AWB and passing even worse gun control laws won't hurt them in the next election after all.

43 posted on 02/15/2007 8:12:45 AM PST by epow (Warning! Unapproved taglines may be dangerous if provoked. Approach with caution.)
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To: jeffers
if you want my rights, come and try to take them.

They've learned.

They won't.

They'll stop someone else from doing something you need to exercise it.

Where will you buy your tools, if nobody is selling them?

44 posted on 02/15/2007 8:12:58 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: GingisK

Different bans. Import is one thing, domestic manufacture is something else. The expired AWB was the latter.


45 posted on 02/15/2007 8:15:31 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: NRA2BFree
Man that didn't take long. How long do those idiots think they can keep screwing with gun owners before something bad happens? I'm amazed at their arrogance!

Buy 30 round mags now for your assualt riles. I just picked up a few more mags for my Ar-15. I am going to pick up a bunch of .223 ammo and 12 gauge shells this weekend. If this nonsense is passed and signed back into law.. I have a feeling that the sh*t is going to hit the fan with the american people getting fed up with this BS.
46 posted on 02/15/2007 8:38:32 AM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Centurion2000

"Time to pick up that Garand I've been wanting."


Get 2.


Won't be on the naughty list if this *&%# goes anywhere.
Still legal in all 50 and Canada (by specific exemption).
Legal in Chicago, LA, and New York.

Shoots through things that AR's and AK's dent.


Why buy hamburger because someone might try to ban hamburger--steak is on sale NOW and it's a limited time offer.

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/m1garand.htm

Get some ammo too---the prices are a song.


47 posted on 02/15/2007 8:47:54 AM PST by Neo-Luddite
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To: Dead Corpse
Where's that reset switch at?
Where I always keep it, in the closet with all the Ammo.
48 posted on 02/15/2007 8:48:26 AM PST by SWO
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To: KoRn
The Dems now know the mistakes they made with the previous AWB. They banned what they could see, which was ridiculous features such as bayonet lugs and flash hiders.

The next AWB will be different. They will just outright ban most any semi-auto that can possibly have a hi-cap magazine connected to it. They won't fool around with bayonet lugs.

I also look for them to ban surplus arms and ammo. Yes, all of the affordable military caliber ammo. Kennedy, Schumer and Biden will whip out the old "armor-piercing" ammo argument that all these rifle rounds can pierce a kevlar vest. If they have a Dem Congress and a Dem President, bye bye to affordable shooting.

I also fear they will bring back the "arsenal" argument so that if you have a few rifles or a whole case of ammo, you should be regulated like an arms dealer.

There is simply no end to the infringement these people will wreak if there is no one to stop them. I agree, buy all your toys and ammo before the next election.

49 posted on 02/15/2007 9:07:39 AM PST by Sender ("Great powers should never get involved in the politics of small tribes.")
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To: Sender
"Kennedy, Schumer and Biden will whip out the old "armor-piercing" ammo argument that all these rifle rounds can pierce a kevlar vest."

Which is any rifle bullet more powerful than a .22 magnum. Chances are, if it will kill a deer it will go through a vest like a hot knife through butter.

50 posted on 02/15/2007 9:15:05 AM PST by KoRn
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