'Natural family' called derogatory to 'gays'

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 15, 2007

[Man50D]

A special session of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is being held today at the Stanford University Law School where lawyers are arguing whether the words "natural family, marriage and family values" constitute "hate speech" that could intimidate city of Oakland workers.

The words were used by two city employees who wanted to launch a group of people who shared their interests and posted a notice on a city bulletin board after a series of notices from homosexual activists were delivered to them via the city's e-mail system, bulletin boards and memo distribution system.

But Robert Bobb, then city manager, and Joyce Hicks, then deputy director of the Community and Economic Development Agency, ordered their notice removed, because it contained "statements of a homophobic nature" and promoted "sexual-orientation-based harassment."

The women, Regina Rederford and Robin Christy, also were threatened with firing from their city jobs because of their posting, according to their lawsuit against the city, which alleges Oakland's anti-discrimination policy "promotes homosexuality" and "openly denounces Christian values."

Attorneys Scott Lively and Richard D. Ackerman are arguing on behalf of the women in the First Amendment case that Christians have equal rights at work to use neutral language to talk about same-sex marriage and other issues.

U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker had ruled in 2005 that Oakland had a right to prevent the employees from posting a Good News Employee Association flier promoting traditional family values on the office bulletin board, even though homosexual city workers already had been using multiple communications systems in the city to promote their message to other workers, including the plaintiffs.

In response to the announcement about the formation of a "gay and lesbian" association, the two workers announced their own informal group that respects "the natural family, marriage and family values."

Walker later ruled that the two did not have their First Amendment rights violated and that federal anti-discrimination protections afforded to gender, race and religion did not apply.

City Attorney John Russo has promised the city will fight "vigorously to defend the policies and practices" of the city.

Lively and Ackerman, of Ackerman, Cowles & Lindsley, said the case is significant because the 9th Circuit sets precedents for a large part of the western United States, and its decision could be used against millions of workers whose speech is subject to punishment by employers who denounce Judeo-Christian values in their agendas.

The posting said:

"Preserve Our Workplace with Integrity. Good News Employee Associations is a forum for people of Faith to express their views on the contemporary issues of the day. With respect for the Natural Family, Marriage and Family values.

If you would like to be a part of preserving integrity in the Workplace call Regina Rederford @xxx-xxxx or Robin Christy @xxx-xxxx

Hicks ordered it taken down the same day it was posted. Then in a memo announcing a newly revised workplace anti-discrimination policy, Hicks said there had been incidents of workers "inappropriately posting materials."

"This case has the potential to make a horrible judicial edict that suggests that the only thoughts and words allowed in a public workplace are those that support the homosexual agenda," said Ackerman. "The city of Oakland has interpreted this district court's ruling to mean that Christianity has no place in our society and should be subject to punishment. I want to believe that our Supreme Court will ultimately decide this case on the values and instructions set forth in motion by the nations Founders."

Ackerman's' firm represents the women and said the Pro-Family Law Center and Abiding Truth Ministries have helped underwrite the thousands of dollars it has cost to fight the city's aggressive censorship of the plaintiffs.

[ARE SOLE]

"Gay" is derogatory to "happy".




Regards.

[wodinoneeye]

What a load of crap. 'Natural Family' being labeled 'hate speech' by the Leftards/Libtards/Pro-Degenerates.

This is just one more sign of the ongoing rot of American society where the deviants and perverts are being allowed to run the show and define what is right and good..

It is not a matter of intolerance, but of overtolerance of of the libertine agenda that is weakening and destroying our country. Any historian will tell you that this is the way that civilizations die.

It IS natural for a man and a woman to produce offspring and thus continue society and the species, and anything else is abnormal/artificial/farcical. To think otherwise is just a dementia that is seeking an excuse for certain peoples deviant lifestyle choices (AND it is being foisted on us in part by leftists who require the destruction of our culture/social adhesion so that they can attempt to seize power).

[darkangel82]

People cannot possibly be this stupid.

[Coldwater Creek]

Right up there with the Muzzies!!

[Coldwater Creek]

Yes they can be!

[azhenfud]

'Natural family' called derogatory to 'gays'

Of course it is - anything "traditional" offends the pansies so they want it destroyed.

[azhenfud]

What's worse - we'll capitulate in the name of "tolerance".

IMO, queers have NO rights - only PEOPLE have rights.

[freeangel]

Just try and have a "natural" family without a male and female.

[Man50D]

It IS natural for a man and a woman to produce offspring and thus continue society and the species, and anything else is abnormal/artificial/farcical.

This goes beyond the pro homosexual movement. It's about socialists attempting to destroy our democracy by attacking the family that is foundation of the country.

[Jabba the Nutt]

Oakland's anti-discrimination policy "promotes homosexuality" and "openly denounces Christian values."

Anti-Christian is perfectly rational, while pointing out the reality of how babies are made IS an insult to homosexuals, since they can't make babies. Make sense now?

[SkyPilot]

Satan must be laughing.

[Smokin' Joe]

Time for them to go back into their closets...

[AmericaUnited]

I'm getting sick and tired of 1% of the population putting their queer, unnatural, and perverted ways on the rest of us. Enough already!

[Joe Boucher]

Just what are you going to do or feel when ya come home and your son or daughter is being buggered?
They are not"gay", they are homosexuel and that is not only immoral it is unnatural and sick.

[Coldwater Creek]

If nothing else, it is unhealthy!

[BigCinBigD]

I would have mixed emotions about California falling in to the ocean.I would mourn the 70 or so decent people who would die in the process.

[SALChamps03]

Yes, you are right. It's funny how the gays think that being against something amounts to having a "phobia." Does that mean we are armed robbery phobic? murder phobic?

[Burkean]

I wonder where they fall on the issue of adoption.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

It's their way to gain power and rule the world.
homosexuality and feminism is a demonic and satanic spirit, and the homosexuals and the feminist are diametrically opposed to God and God's word ( the Bible ) and are trying anything in their wicked power to destroy the family, the church, and this country.
The homosexuals and the feminist will be at the forefront in ushering in the anti-christ and the persecution of the church.
But, fear not, Jesus said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against this church.

[toddlintown]

How about "Hot Pastrami?" Does that offend them too?

[toddlintown]

Robert Bobb, bobs the knob.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Maybe, maybe not, But God who is on his throne will get the last laugh.
Actually, Satan should be very very worried, because he knows his time is up soon and he will be cast into the lake of fire forever unto forever.
God is the one who rules and reins.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

" I'm getting sick and tired of 1% of the population ( and MSM, HOLLYWOOD ) putting their queer, unnatural, and perverted ways on the rest of us. Enough already! ".
They think they have the moral high ground, but, they are deceived and has been given over to delusions to blind them and believe in a lie.

[Calpernia]

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Perhaps the homosexuals should go somewhere and start their own country (I would suggest somewhere in the Middle East) and they can do whatever they would like and unbreed themselves into extinction within a generation.

Homosexuals make up about 10% of the population, why should we care that they consider values that have been practiced for thousands of years to be derogatory?

[SkyPilot]

Homosexuals make up about 10% of the population

It is actually closer to 1%. The 10% statistic was from the Kinsey Report of 1948.

It was absolutely flawed in every way.

USES OF KINSEY'S FLAWED RESEARCH

[SkyPilot]

Amen.

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

America is simply experiencing the the struggle of reason over the beasts within. Just as removing Saddam from Iraq gives rise to all the Muslim lunatics, America's tolerance gives rise to the intolerant perverts. No one seems to remember why they needed suppression. Now we learn again. It will take time to reinstate Sodomy as a crime. The worst has not yet come.

[wagglebee]

I was being overly generous and using the figure that the sodomites have always claimed. The fact still remains that an extremely small percentage of the population should not be allowed to dictate the lives of the majority simply because they don't like it.

[Ping-Pong]

"overtolerance" - a terrific word for what is going on.

[DungeonMaster]

I think I'm even more annoyed with straight liberals that support queers in every way just to differentiate themselves from conservative Christians.

[Ping-Pong]

Thank you for the post.......The middle east is a great place for them - they can join rest of Satan's crew.

[Harrius Magnus]

So "Peter Puffer Family" is certainly out, for your average (k)Neal and bOB union? Someone get me a copy of 1984 and the PC Dictionary.

[UndisputableTruth]

Homosexuals make up about 10% of the population, why should we care that they consider values that have been practiced for thousands of years to be derogatory?

It doesn't matter if it's 1%, 10%, or 80% of the population, when you're talking about an affront to the written Law! Prophecy warns about this sort of thing rising in the End Times...

[AD from SpringBay]

Freedom of speech is swirling around the bowl; once, twice, thrice - it's almost gone.

[metmom]

Cry me a river..... Some people have way too much time on their hands.

[metmom]

So is it hate speech when they refer to us as *breeders*?

[esquirette]

When I went to law school in the 70's I predicted that Christian speech would be labeled hate speech in 20 years. It is taking a bit longer. . . If it hits the fan with the economy, Christians will go the way of the Jews in the 1930s.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Psalm 2
Verses 1-5 King James Version


Psalm 2

1. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2. The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3. Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

5. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Psalm 2
Verses 1-5
(King James Version)


Psalm 2

1. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2. The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3. Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

5. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

The sad part is, is that a good percentage of the whole population has been indoctrinated by i.e. media, public and private schools, universities, Hollywood that it's a alternative life style and should be tolerated, therefore, no one wants to rock the boat and stand against the sin that it is.

[Old Professer]

I wonder if any real work gets done around there, sounds like they're awfully busy.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

That's the irony of them, they would gleefully join and support any group, belief system, or movement that opposes the USA, or body of Christ would wide, but, not actually join them ( Muslim terrorist ) in person, because they know they would be more at risk, then here in the USA.
The Homosexuals , would they truly want to live under a brutal totalitarian communist state ?
Or ? a Islamic state who would not only take their freedoms away ( Freedoms that are by our Constitution, and our way of life here in USA, a Nation that was founded on Christian principles ) from them, but condemn them to death by their life style.

[voltaires_zit]

As usual, the martyrdom on parade folks scrambled their facts like breakfast eggs to make it appear they were done wrong.

The facts on which the district court ruled, and on which the appeals court will rule boil down to this:

The guy who the plaintiffs named in the suit WASN'T EVEN IN TOWN at the time of the action. You can't sue someone for something they didn't do.

Whatever discrimination the women may have faced, nobody held a gun to their head and forced them to hire a crappy lawyer.

'nuff said

http://www.oaklandcityattorney.org/PDFS/Opinions/GoodNewsruling2-2005.pdf

[MEGoody]

Homosexuals are Christophobic.

[Ping-Pong]

You're right - it makes no sense. But why would they want to enter into marriage, in a church no less, with supposed Christian pastors? That type of marriage, to me, means it is to be sanctioned by God. God does not sanction their lifestyle so as far as I see - the only reason they do this is to belittle God, Christians and our way of life.
And some of our liberal citizens allow it. Shame.

I wonder if Islam would condemn them to death. Their Koran allows pedophiles - Muhammad was one. My brother-in-law traveled in the area and said it looked like rampant homosexuality was part of their culture.

Oh well, God is in control. One day Prophet, all of us will stand before Him. We can pray that they, as well as we, repent of our sins - I just don't know if they recognize what they do as a sin. It has been so sugar coated I don't think they think it is a problem.

[Man50D]

Maybe, maybe not, But God who is on his throne will get the last laugh. Actually, Satan should be very very worried, because he knows his time is up soon and he will be cast into the lake of fire forever unto forever. God is the one who rules and reins.

A more secular version of your statement is that the overwhelming majority of heterosexuals that inhabit the earth at some point in time will rise up against the very small minority of homosexuals who push their immoral lifestyle on the majority. I don't know how or when but it will happen because too many of the former will become too disgusted of the latter not to stop their depravity.

[Man50D]

Cry me a river..... Some people have way too much time on their hands.

They use all their time attempting to advance the homosexual lifestyle.

[hosepipe]

Gays are Normalphobic.. if its normal gays rebel against it..
But not only gays; others are normalphobic also..

Take Rudy Giuliani for example.. the boy is wierd..