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'Bionic' eye implants look ahead
BBC ^ | Friday, February 16, 2007 | Jonathan Fildes

Posted on 02/16/2007 3:23:11 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu

A bionic eye implant that could help restore the sight of millions of blind people could be available to patients within two years.

US researchers have been given the go-ahead to implant the prototype device in 50 to 75 patients.

The Argus II system uses a spectacle-mounted camera to feed visual information to electrodes in the eye.

Patients who tested less-advanced versions of the retinal implant were able to see light, shapes and movement.

"What we are trying to do is take real-time images from a camera and convert them into tiny electrical pulses that would jump-start the otherwise blind eye and allow patients to see," said Professor Mark Humayan from the University of California.

Wireless vision

Retinal implants are able to partially able to restore the vision of people with particular forms of blindness caused by diseases such as macular degeneration or retinitis pigmentosa.

About 1.5 million people worldwide have retinitis pigmentosa, and one in 10 people over the age of 55 have age-related macular degeneration.

Both diseases cause the retinal cells which process light at the back of the eye to gradually die.

The new devices work by implanting an array of tiny electrodes into the back of the retina.

A camera is used to capture pictures, and a processing unit, about the size of a small handheld computer and worn on a belt, converts the visual information into electrical signals.

These are then wirelessly sent to a receiver just under the surface of the skin, which in turn feeds them to the electrodes.

The whole process happens in real time.

Growing dots

First-generation, low-resolution devices have already been fitted to six patients.

"The longest device has been in for five years," said Professor Humayan.

"It's amazing, even with 16 pixels, or electrodes, how much our first six subjects have been able to do."

Terry Byland, 58, from California was fitted with an implant in 2004 after going blind with retinitis pigmentosa in 1993.

"At the beginning, it was like seeing assembled dots - now it's much more than that," he said.

"When I am walking along the street I can avoid low-hanging branches - I can see the edges of the branches."

Mr Byland is also able to make out other shapes.

"I can't recognise faces, but I can see them like a dark shadow," he said.

Brain change

The new implant has a higher resolution than the earlier devices, with 60 electrodes.

It is also a lot smaller, about one square millimetre, which reduces the amount of surgery that needs to be done to implant the device.

The technology has now been given the go-ahead by the US Food and Drug Administration to be used in an exploratory patient trial.

This will take place at five centres across America over two years, with 50-75 patients aged over 50.

If successful, the device could be commercialised soon after, costing around $30,000 (£15,000). Other devices could then be developed with higher resolution or a wider field of view, said Professor Humayan.

Future work includes studying the effects the implants have on the brain.

"We are actually studying what happens to the visual cortex over time," said Professor Humayan.

The research was presented at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) annual meeting in San Francisco, US.




By Jonathan Fildes
Science and technology reporter, BBC News, San Francisco


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bionic; bioniceye; blind; blindness; color; cyborg; eye; eyeimplant; eyesight; future; implant; implants; light; macular; maculardegeneration; organ; organs; prostheses; prosthetic; prostheticeye; prostheticeyes; prototype; retina; retinal; retinalimplant; retinas; retinitispigmentosa; science; sight; transplant; transplants; vision

1 posted on 02/16/2007 3:23:13 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu
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To: neverdem; AntiGuv

ping.


2 posted on 02/16/2007 3:23:47 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Born Conservative

This might not be what you're looking for, but organ transplant ping. wall.


3 posted on 02/16/2007 3:28:01 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

We are Borg.


4 posted on 02/16/2007 3:29:27 AM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: All

And there were no accompanying pictures.


5 posted on 02/16/2007 3:32:10 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Lame Title Champion of the year IMO.

Bionic Foot Gives Leg Up!

6 posted on 02/16/2007 3:32:32 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

And yet America is hated...

It would be interesting to subtract all that America has invented and given the world over the last 150 years and see what would be left.


7 posted on 02/16/2007 3:48:53 AM PST by DB
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
A much more detail article (With some photos) can be for here at R&D Magazine

http://www.rdmag.com/ShowPR.aspx?PUBCODE=014&ACCT=1400000100&ISSUE=0508&RELTYPE=PR&ORIGRELTYPE=CVS&PRODCODE=00000000&PRODLETT=CC&CommonCount=0

8 posted on 02/16/2007 4:39:30 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
BUMP...

(Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to type that bionic eye sound...)

9 posted on 02/16/2007 4:42:33 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: #1CTYankee; All
Here's the link given by #CTYankee:
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10 posted on 02/16/2007 4:51:53 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: #1CTYankee; All
Here's the link given by #CTYankee:
http://www.rdmag.com/ShowPR.aspx?PUBCODE=014&ACCT=1400000100&ISSUE=0508&RELTYPE=PR&ORIGRELTYPE=CVS&PRODCODE=00000000&PRODLETT=CC&CommonCount=0 .
11 posted on 02/16/2007 4:52:17 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Hatteras

Booster Terrik
(A guy from the Star Wars expanded universe with a prosthetic eye).

12 posted on 02/16/2007 4:58:20 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Thanks, not rally up on my HTML.


13 posted on 02/16/2007 5:01:22 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: #1CTYankee

Or typing for that matter.


14 posted on 02/16/2007 5:04:47 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Hatteras

http://www.xbo85.dial.pipex.com/wavs/bioneye.wav


15 posted on 02/16/2007 5:07:02 AM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: #1CTYankee
If you want to know, it's just a [pointy bracket]a href= url adress[close pointy bracket] then you either put in the url address or some other typing then close it with a [pointy bracket]/a[close pointy bracket].
16 posted on 02/16/2007 5:07:17 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
God's truth unfolds continuously as revelations and miracles, such as allowing the blind to see again; defeating such age old horroras as polio, leprosy, and plague; blessing mankind with photographs of mars and the dark side of the moon--all to those men and women whose minds are open, who have the wisdom and courage to receive His truth wherever it presents itself and unattached to preconceived notions and conclusions.

Meanwhile, the Muslim world is stuck in the 7th century, its mind closed to God's continuous revelation, His never ceasing miracles, His eternal grace, His unlimited love for mankind, and His ceaseless creation.

17 posted on 02/16/2007 5:07:29 AM PST by Savage Beast (MESSAGE TO BUSH: Free U.S. Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean NOW!!!)
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To: #1CTYankee
Personally make typos a lot--such as your username in comment 11*--so definitely not going to criticize you for that.

*Sorry about that.

18 posted on 02/16/2007 5:09:36 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: LayoutGuru2

THAT'S IT!!! ;-)


19 posted on 02/16/2007 5:10:44 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

20 posted on 02/16/2007 5:28:47 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"*Sorry about that.",/i>

Not a problem, if I apologized for every time I made a typo I be spending twice as much time posting. ;-D

21 posted on 02/16/2007 5:29:50 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Hatteras

"peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep-peep."


22 posted on 02/16/2007 5:44:41 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: b_sharp; neutrality; anguish; SeaLion; Fractal Trader; grjr21; bitt; KevinDavis; Momaw Nadon; ...
FutureTechPing!
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other related fields. FReepmail to join or drop.

23 posted on 02/16/2007 7:47:15 AM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Savage Beast

On the other hand, there is a prophecy known among Orthodox Christians, that in the days of the Antichrist all of Christ's miracles will be reproduced, save that the dead will not be raised. The prophecy does not say the Antichrist will reproduced Christ's miracles, only that they will be reproduced.

I am happy for the blind who will see, but this is the first step in direct digital-brain interfaces (the retina is neurophysiologically part of the brain, and includes not just light sensing cells, but cells that start the image-processing involved in discerning shapes), and after one gets over the 'ooo! cool!' reaction to being able to access the internet through a direct retinal feed, a little more imagination and a little sober thought shows that this will not be a good thing. (If imagination of the consequences fails, I suggest viewing the entire corpus of Ghost in the Shell anime. It just gives a fairly dark vision of a democratic society with pervasive digital-brain interfaces. Consider then a non-democratic society.)


24 posted on 02/16/2007 7:53:44 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .u)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

bump


25 posted on 02/16/2007 8:52:40 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

26 posted on 02/16/2007 8:55:24 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: dangerdoc; retrokitten

27 posted on 02/16/2007 8:55:58 AM PST by null and void (This sentence no verb...)
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To: null and void

LOL! I can be Mad-Eye Retrokitten!


28 posted on 02/16/2007 8:59:41 AM PST by retrokitten
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To: Admin Moderator; All
The BBC did an update:
Eyechip (USC)
A receiver under the eye surface passes the signals back to the chip
A bionic eye implant that could help restore the sight of millions of blind people could be available to patients within two years.

US researchers have been given the go-ahead to implant the prototype device in 50 to 75 patients.

The Argus II system uses a spectacle-mounted camera to feed visual information to electrodes in the eye.

Patients who tested less-advanced versions of the retinal implant were able to see light, shapes and movement.

"What we are trying to do is take real-time images from a camera and convert them into tiny electrical pulses that would jump-start the otherwise blind eye and allow patients to see," said Professor Mark Humayun from the University of California.

BIONIC EYE TECHNOLOGY
Bionic eye technology
1: Camera on glasses views image
2: Signals are sent to hand-held device
3: Processed information is sent back to glasses and wirelessly transmitted to receiver under surface of eye
4: Receiver sends information to electrodes in retinal implant
5: Electrodes stimulate retina to send information to brain

Retinal implants are able to partially restore the vision of people with particular forms of blindness caused by diseases such as macular degeneration or retinitis pigmentosa.

About 1.5 million people worldwide have retinitis pigmentosa, and one in 10 people over the age of 55 have age-related macular degeneration.

Both diseases cause the retinal cells which process light at the back of the eye to gradually die.

The new devices work by implanting an array of tiny electrodes into the back of the retina.

A camera is used to capture pictures, and a processing unit, about the size of a small handheld computer and worn on a belt, converts the visual information into electrical signals.

These are then sent back to the glasses and wirelessly on to a receiver just under the surface of the front of the eye, which in turn feeds them to the electrodes at the rear.

The whole process happens in real time.

Growing dots

First-generation, low-resolution devices have already been fitted to six patients.

"The longest device has been in for five years," said Professor Humayun.

"It's amazing, even with 16 pixels, or electrodes, how much our first six subjects have been able to do."

Terry Byland, 58, from California was fitted with an implant in 2004 after going blind with retinitis pigmentosa in 1993.

"At the beginning, it was like seeing assembled dots - now it's much more than that," he said.

"When I am walking along the street I can avoid low-hanging branches - I can see the edges of the branches."

Mr Byland is also able to make out other shapes.

"I can't recognise faces, but I can see them like a dark shadow," he said.

Brain change

The new implant has a higher resolution than the earlier devices, with 60 electrodes.

It is also a lot smaller, about one square millimetre, which reduces the amount of surgery that needs to be done to implant the device.

The technology has now been given the go-ahead by the US Food and Drug Administration to be used in an exploratory patient trial.

This will take place at five centres across America over two years, with 50-75 patients aged over 50.

If successful, the device could be commercialised soon after, costing around $30,000 (£15,000). Other devices could then be developed with higher resolution or a wider field of view, said Professor Humayun.

Future work includes studying the effects the implants have on the brain.

"We are actually studying what happens to the visual cortex over time," said Professor Humayun.

The research was presented at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) annual meeting in San Francisco, US.


29 posted on 02/16/2007 9:07:26 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: neverdem

You might have missed the earlier ping, and normally wouldn't ping again, but shouldn't this article be pinged to your pinglist?


30 posted on 02/16/2007 9:18:23 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Well, I would hope that they look ahead... If they looked backwards, all they would see (in most cases) is grey matter...


31 posted on 02/16/2007 9:31:30 AM PST by laker_dad
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To: DB
It would be interesting to subtract all that America has invented and given the world over the last 150 years and see what would be left.

Well, the rest of the world would be driving cars and we wouldn't.

Of course, this would solve our so-called Oil Addiction... So, there's an up side to everything I guess.

(We'd also be hurting some on the physics side but just the loss of the automobile would be pretty hard.)

Oh, and antibiotics...And manned space flight/satellites in orbit...

The USA has nothing to be ashamed of in the inventions/achievements department. But... We didn't invent everthing. There are a lot of bright people doing things all over the place.

32 posted on 02/16/2007 2:11:24 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
If successful, the device could be commercialised soon after, costing around $30,000 (£15,000). Other devices could then be developed with higher resolution or a wider field of view, said Professor Humayan.

The big market in these things isn't going to be the blind- it will be sighted people.

As soon as the bugs are worked out and the resolution is high enough it would be an excellent way to connect two people (or two million) and let the audience see 'what I see'. All you need is a transmitter/receiver like a mobile phone has and you can receive what your friend is looking at or send the friend what you're looking at. Also, you could simply send your imagery (or your visual life as it happens) to a hard drive for storage of everything you see. That last will evolve into directors making feature length visuals as an art medium (would give a whole new meaning to war/porn movies).

The military will get their hands on it first I reckon but civilians will have their day in the sun too. At some point nothing important will go unnoticed- if I witness it, the whole world will witness it. It will change the way we deal with murder and other crime. It will change politics, geopolitical conflict... Everything.

33 posted on 02/16/2007 2:21:34 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Implanting a computer chip would at least partially blind a normal eye.

I don't think this would be good for recreational use. After all, you don't see a big cochlear implant business among the hearing.
34 posted on 02/16/2007 2:42:17 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

bookmark for later


35 posted on 02/16/2007 2:47:36 PM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: dangerdoc
I don't think this would be good for recreational use.

You will absolutely see the things I described happen (assuming you don't pass away too soon).

If I had to choose between the two, I'd take sight over hearing any day. I wouldn't take invasive surgery for a hearing device that connected me to my friends when a phone works just as well. But the ability to send/receive exact visuals to/from self/others would be an awesome thing.

Also, partial blockage of vision by the gizmo will be worked around. They'll splice/jack the feed straight into the optical nerve behind the retina at some point. It's going to happen. Completely obvious in my opinion. The good thing here is, it's going to happen soon. I should see this in my lifetime.

Humanity will be profoundly changed. It will be interesting and frightening for those of us who were born before these things but for those born in that time they won't think twice about it.

36 posted on 02/16/2007 3:02:53 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son

Instead of replacing our biological eyes with improved digital eyes, it would be better to simply add the digital eyes externally. My choice would be to mount them on the ends of two steerable "bunny ear" masts, which would in turn be mounted over the ears. By having an extra (better) set of eyes mounted on the end of these steerable "eyestalks", the wearer could see in all directions, around corners, or quadroscopically. Later, when digital ears are produced, these too could be stalk-mounted, giving the wearer a 360° sight and sound experience.


37 posted on 02/16/2007 3:08:29 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
I'm not talking about replacing our eyes. I'm talking about augmenting them.

For a normally sighted person this would be a luxury device that they could cut on and off (and see as normal when it wasn't in use). You could easily use computer programs with the device as well to create a visual overlay onto your own field of vision. For example, targeting devices could be displayed directly onto your vision without blocking what you were looking at. You could switch to infrared if you needed to. But you could immediately switch from that to a book you're reading (but the words could be scrolled on a screen that was projected onto your vision). Or a music video/movie. You could stop reading and immediately receive incoming visuals from your children/lover/friends etc (complete with sound via a cochlear implant ;-).

The cool thing is not so much the digital/optical feed but the ability to interface computers to the brain... Just a rough estimate assuming 10 million bits are flowing through your optical nerves right now- that's what- just over a megabyte of bandwidth straight into the brain? Not too shabby. A lot of computer/internet things could be made redundant and one megabyte would offer a really good effect. And that's just through the optical nerve. One step further has them plugging straight into the brain. The multiverse is the limit after that.

I would like to have some gadgets like you're talking about as well. They would fit into my structure as well.

38 posted on 02/16/2007 3:30:51 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Hmmm....

Daughter sold to pay for eye op

39 posted on 02/16/2007 3:35:44 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: AntiGuv

These stories seem to be coming out in clusters http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785339/posts


40 posted on 02/16/2007 6:36:53 PM PST by jmcenanly (Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. -- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Prodigal Son
Certain celebrities ahem Paris Hilton' current boyfriend ahem will sell rights to their views by subscription.

And then the government will demand to implant one of these in the eyes of anyone who is even remotely suspected of being a terrorist.

And then the warrantless wiretaps, so to speak...

NO cheers, unfortunately.

41 posted on 02/16/2007 6:49:39 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: B-Chan
By having an extra (better) set of eyes mounted on the end of these steerable "eyestalks", the wearer could see in all directions, around corners, or quadroscopically.

Most moms already come equipped with these.

Cheers!

42 posted on 02/16/2007 6:50:38 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: laker_dad

But if you could look at your own brain, don't you think that would be kinda cool?


43 posted on 02/16/2007 7:10:06 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

It's dark in there.

In more ways than one.


44 posted on 02/16/2007 8:05:12 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Prodigal Son
These surgeries are destructive, believe me, I've seen them first hand.

They don't do cochlear implants until the hearing is completely shot because when they are finished, that ear will never heal naturally again. In addition, what they are giving is a poor substitute for the real thing.

The technology is decades away from providing what God gave you when you were born. Even if they could jack HDTV into your brain, it would take some way to re-engineer the brain to perceive any improvement. We are wired to use our senses as infants and if new or improved senses were added after about the age of two, the brain would never process the information. It may be possible to stimulate new neuro connections but it would probably increase your risk for a brain tumor.

We are decades away from engineering simple things like artificial limbs with touch and position sense wired directly into severed limbs.

With the steady progress in technology, it will in the end probably be supplanted by bio-engineering anyway. It would be much easier to stimulate endogenous stem cells to grow a retina than try to recreate it with semiconductors. The stem cells come with instructions for making a perfectly functioning retina.

The next time they have the desert robot race, pay attention. Engineers from across the country take powerful computers and all the sensors they can pack into a full sized vehicle to try to autonomously cross a hundred miles of desert. I think somebody finally navigated the course last year for the first time. On the other hand, butterflies with CPUs too small to see without a microscope cross thousands of miles every year to winter in the same spot in Mexico every year.

We have come a long way but when you look at what God has made
45 posted on 02/16/2007 8:31:36 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: toddlintown

You will be assimilated.

Resistance is futile.

Sounds like the Dems.


46 posted on 02/16/2007 8:43:07 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: dangerdoc
Have the same opinion about using glasses. Technically have eyesight a little less than 20/20 (nearsighted), but reluctant to put on glasses (though have some) because they might become a crutch of sorts, and the eyes will weaken further*. Only once glasses are necessary to see very clearly; then glasses could be used.








*Plus the rims of the glasses can be seen at the edges of the field of vision, and the parts of the nose where the glasses' rubber things touch can get a bit sweaty.

47 posted on 02/17/2007 7:05:12 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: dangerdoc
These surgeries are destructive, believe me, I've seen them first hand.

Hmmm. My ex-wife is an ENT surgeon. She doesn't believe that the current state of surgical procedures is going to stay this way forever without improvement. Do you? Do you think we are as far advanced as we will ever be? That this is as far as human achievement makes it?

Come on.

The technology is decades away from providing what God gave you when you were born.

You sound like it's millions of years. Decades is not long at all. 30 years. Not more. Don't know how old you are but I plan to see it happen because it definitely will happen- and soon. One century is soon- think about it. But it will happen much sooner than that.

We are wired to use our senses as infants

Actually not. You are wired to make concsious use of only a very small portion of what your sensory arrays take in. Most processing goes on outside the sphere of consciousness. We are not wired to 'use our senses as infants'. We are only aware of a very small amount of what actually comes into and goes on in our minds at any given moment. Your thoughts are created for you in your unconcscious mind before you ever get the chance to concsiously think about them. The fact is, not a lot is known about the unconcsious/conscious interface. It would be better to say we are wired to make use of the flimsy, low band-width tool of concsiousness when we are infants. Sight is not merely visual input- it is interpretation.

When you use 'sight', you are not seeing the world as it is. Sight is what the unconcsious mind has made out of sensory input plus the modifications and adjustments (like depth perception, colour, white balance, presenting you with what you expect to see etc).

The mind is a very adaptive piece of equipment. Why are you able to interface with the monitor in front of you right now but would be unable to do so once the medium is one step closer to you? (although chimpanzees have already been wired to do this. Chimps are more capable than us- I don't think so.) Adding signal to the existing input would simply be processed by the unconcsious mind the same way any other new and unusual visual input would be. Your mind would adapt to it just fine and learn to use it without you even thinking about it- literally.

We are decades away from engineering simple things like artificial limbs with touch and position sense wired directly into severed limbs.

Again, no. Artificial limbs wired directly to the brain have already been created and are being tested on real humans and chimps as we speak. This is happening right now. Not decades from now.

With the steady progress in technology, it will in the end probably be supplanted by bio-engineering anyway.

I want infrared vision and an array of tools on the end of artificial arms that can do a number of things- not just biotech engineered artificial eyes that accomplish the same thing that nature does. What's the point in that? The military would be very interested in these things as well. There is enormous enormous potential for these things. That alone will ensure these things come into being.

Mark my words- we are just around the corner from having mobile phones built directly into our heads. If they can wire your brain to an artificial arm they can wire it to a Sony Playstation Controller- yes/no? Obviously yes. You can do quite a lot with a Playstation controller. With different combinations of menus, a mental/virtual controller (wirelessly connected to a processor externally) could be used to manipulate objects, keyboards, switches- all sorts of things. We create text messages on our phones now by having one thumb choose between about 15 tiny keys. The thumb is a clumsy implement but it works just fine. People do it without hardly thinking about it. Imagine taking the thumb out of the picture (and the phone too). With menus, keyboards, options overlaid on your vision and cursors controlled by your mind the same way the mind is controlling artificial arms right now as we speak- the possibilities would be astounding.

I think it will be a lot simpler to do this than most people realise. I think the mind is set up to handle this, it is set up to create this and it will want to have this once it becomes available safely and cheaply.

48 posted on 02/18/2007 2:51:36 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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Certain celebrities ahem Paris Hilton' current boyfriend ahem will sell rights to their views by subscription.

Yep. Pornstars will become the biggest celebs in the world.

And then the government will demand to implant one of these in the eyes of anyone who is even remotely suspected of being a terrorist.

LOL. There won't be anyone without these things once they hit the market. In 1998 almost nobody had mobile phones. Now, in less than ten years, almost everybody has a mobile phone. People want to be connected. The mind wants to be connected. You can say what you want but you are going out of your way to connect to me (and god knows who else) right now. You are plugged into a global network, you can be traced, the things you write here can be used by some other entity.

It's already that way. There will always be negatives to everything.

Why not this alternative: Rather than the government calling the shots- why wouldn't WE the People demand that all government officials have their devices turned to 'transmit to all' all the time? That way WE could keep track of what THEY do? I'd quite like that actually.

Something else to think about- this is probably a natural 'next step' for humanity. No getting around it. But, who says governments and nation states are going to be with us forever? I don't think they (nation/states & governments as we currently understand them) will last.

49 posted on 02/18/2007 3:00:54 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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