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Colourful past threatens Giuliani's lead (dodged draft, marital weirdness)
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 16 February 2007 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 02/16/2007 1:58:44 PM PST by Spiff

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To: TAdams8591
Most unfortunately, he doesn't have a prayer.

Ah, not so my friend. He has my families prayers and we pray alot. LOL

He'll also get more cash from us and we donate a lot.

And we don't mind standing on the corner with signs and handouts arguing with lefties either.

11 months is a long time in politics.

Have faith!

141 posted on 02/16/2007 6:42:17 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: P-Marlowe

But unlike Clinton, Hunter doesn't have charisma.


142 posted on 02/16/2007 6:43:37 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guilianni is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: TAdams8591
Not buying that. What he lacks in charisma he makes up for in gravitas.

Just kiddin'. I think America is ready for Duncan Hunter. We'll see.

143 posted on 02/16/2007 6:43:47 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: TAdams8591; jwalsh07; xzins
But unlike Clinton, Hunter doesn't have charisma.

Clinton did not have charisma. He had Peyronie's disease.

A lot of time it is mistaken for charisma.

144 posted on 02/16/2007 6:47:13 PM PST by P-Marlowe (What happened to my tagline?)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Rudy threads are largely a repeat of the CA Recall threads. The slogans are - "Vote for the RINO, to keep the Dems Out of Power."

However, what good is that if the RINO acts exactly like a Dem? We need to keep an eye out for the Republican candidates to see if they start to parrot Arnold's call for "Post-Partisan Solutions". The last thing we need is for Arnold to write the movie script, "GOP - The Comeback." It is sure to be a box office bomb.


145 posted on 02/16/2007 6:48:41 PM PST by Kuksool (No candidate is entitled to anyone's vote)
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To: jwalsh07
Bravo Sierra on that.

Oh okay...

Duncan Hunter

On the House Armed Services Committee, Hunter has protected U.S. defense jobs in aircraft, ship repair, machine tools, textile, steel and titanium to ensure that what he calls the “Arsenal of Democracy,” the U.S. industrial base, is maintained to provide security in time of war. Unfortunately, in his quest for greater defense spending, Rep. Hunter often votes for increased spending across all government programs.

From his Website

“American workers are the most productive and innovative labor force in the world. Unfortunately, they are asked to compete in an unfair environment against other workers who make only a fraction of a living wage and are employed by companies that face few, if any, responsibilities to the environment or the long-term prospects of their employees. Our domestic manufacturers are forced to compete against foreign companies that benefit from their country’s currency and regulatory regimes. Ominously, China is cheating on trade and using billions of American trade dollars to build ships, planes and missiles at an alarming rate while, at the same time, taking millions of American jobs. I will reverse this “one-way street” with a new policy of fair trade for the American worker

Blah, blah, China cheats, 'fair wage', ensure US industrial base...Cry me a river. You can put lipstick on it, but it's still a pig. It is protectionist nonsense. Same sentiment, different (but not by much) words. The same crap spouted by Hamilton and his lackeys in the 19th century still smells like crap today.

146 posted on 02/16/2007 6:56:55 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: jwalsh07
Jwalsh,

In addition to character, honesty, values and faith, in my home, when assessing people of influence and power and even some every day folks, we were taught to look for charisma, sharpness, articulateness and wit. In today's world the second set of characteristics, are probably even more important to winning in this kind of political contest, than the first set of characteristics, depending on the contestants.

To defeat a well known candidate like Hillary, who will be well supported by the major media, it is going to take a candidate who possesses the last four. Unfortunately, that's not Hunter.

Romney is running on a conservative platform, unlike Rudy, AND he is sharp, charismatic, witty and articulate. He can defeat Hillary. Unless, a candidate running on a conservative platform emerges who is a proven conservative like Hunter and is sharp, charismatic, witty and articulate like Romney, Romney will receive my vote.

147 posted on 02/16/2007 7:06:54 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guilianni is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: jwalsh07
"I think America is ready for Duncan Hunter."

They may be but they will never recognize it.

148 posted on 02/16/2007 7:08:34 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guilianni is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I always thought Clinton had the charisma of a used-car salesman. But that, most unfortunately, is not how America saw him.


149 posted on 02/16/2007 7:11:49 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guilianni is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: Kuksool
"The Rudy threads are largely a repeat of the CA Recall threads."

They truly are. It's deja vu on those threads.

150 posted on 02/16/2007 7:14:03 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guilianni is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: jwalsh07

Hunter I thought did well, surprisingly well, on Hannity in his tete a tete with some hapless newbee Dem House member who took over the Gutknecht seat in Minnesota. He also was impressive in some committee hearing that I watched. One must give credit where credit is due. Hunter needs to lose some weight though. He has that rumpled look.


151 posted on 02/16/2007 7:31:24 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: TAdams8591; jwalsh07; xzins
I always thought Clinton had the charisma of a used-car salesman. But that, most unfortunately, is not how America saw him.

Then, perhaps you are wrong about your assessment of Duncan Hunter's charisma. ;-)

152 posted on 02/16/2007 7:36:27 PM PST by P-Marlowe (What happened to my tagline?)
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To: jwalsh07

"Or the hypocrisy of purchasing an anullment from the Catholic Church after 14 years of marriage."

A patently false statement such as this tends to discredit the other possibly true comments in your posting.


153 posted on 02/16/2007 7:41:09 PM PST by rogator
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To: TAdams8591

Dear TAdams8591,

"I always thought Clinton had the charisma of a used-car salesman."

I was never impressed with him on television.

However, in person, he was the most charismatic person I ever met. I understood instantly why he inspired such loyalty in those who worked for him - which was his political salvation, that those who worked for him and knew him were willing to do anything for him, including go to jail.


sitetest


154 posted on 02/16/2007 8:06:53 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: xzins

"we need to find a conservative leader..."

As my post #82 suggested, what's wrong with Duncan Hunter?

So far, almost nothing. He's definitely a conservative.

Now, the rhetorical question: is he a leader? Can he get the money and support needed to be a viable candidate?

155 posted on 02/16/2007 8:08:42 PM PST by johnpannell
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To: Plutarch
Here is the actual quote about Duncan Hunter's wife, Lynne:

"She seems remarkably resilient. Not long after a wildfire consumed his house, he asked her, "Honey, can you do a fundraiser in two weeks?'' She said, "Sure. My son is in Fallujah, my house has burned down, how many people do you want to invite?''

I like this lady!

156 posted on 02/16/2007 8:14:59 PM PST by b9 ("America is great because America is good." ~ Duncan Hunter)
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To: xzins

Dear xzins,

"I think Rudy could be vulnerable after 4 years, and the primary system does allow for contenders to weigh in."

I didn't say that Mr. Giuliani would be invulnerable after four years.

Rather, I pointed out that if Mr. Giuliani were taken down by Republicans after four years and replaced with another candidate, or if he were to be on the receiving end of a strong challenge within the party, it would nearly ensure a Dem win of the presidency in 2012.

At least, that's generally been the result.


sitetest


157 posted on 02/16/2007 8:19:17 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
"However, in person, he was the most charismatic person I ever met."

I got awfully close but I never met Clinton in person. Others have made the same observation you have, and I always wanted to meet him in person to see for myself if it was true.

158 posted on 02/16/2007 9:05:08 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: TAdams8591

Dear TAdams8591,

I remember once working in the Old Executive Office Building. I was a contractor doing technical work - not one of the Clinton crew. The president was to give a speech in the Rose Garden, so for the sake of appearances to the media, they hearded a bunch of us outside to "listen" to the speech.

As I stood there, Mr. Clinton came out of the Oval Office and walked over to the podium in the Rose Garden. It was like watching the sun move across the walkway. I caught my breath.

I remember thinking to myself, "This is the glamour of evil. This is the attraction of Satan himself."


sitetest


159 posted on 02/16/2007 9:09:00 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Spiff

Only slightly better than half of ALL Americans would even consider voting for a guy married three times, according to recent polling. Rudy has many rocky roads ahead as people learn more about him.


160 posted on 02/16/2007 10:05:04 PM PST by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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