Diddling While Americans Die

Townhall.com ^ | February 17, 2007 | Oliver North

[flynmudd]

I hope we are still The United States of America in 20 years and not the Islamic States of America.

[George W. Bush]

Are the lives of courageous young American volunteers like Joshua Frazier worth so little to our Congress that they would ignore our peril for perverse personal political profit?

Wait, wait, let me guess! Uhhh...yes?

[jwparkerjr]

Good questions, and if Americans will just wake up and make the effort to use what God has given us in our Declaration of Independence, country and Constitution we already have the answer.

I am not advocating the violent overthrow of the US government, but something will have to be done or it won't matter what I advocate.

I just want to sound the clarion call, once again, for us to wake up and realize it's not a choice between utopia and what we have, but rather a choice between what we have and whole lot worse under Muslim rule. The situation is not static, it's changing and right now it's changing for the worse. It should take nothing more than that asinine resolution passed by the House yesterday to wake us up to the fact that the Greatest Generation was willing to fight and die for will no longer exist, if it even exists now.

Sometimes I feel like we at FreeRep are like Noah. We know what's coming and we're trying to sound the warning, but no one listens.

I am in the twilight years of my life so it's of limited importance to me, but it's of utmost importance to my grandchildren.

Maybe it's a matter of nothing more than mounting a nationwide movement to pick a day and EVERYONE call the Congressional switchboard. So many calls, over and over that NO ONE can get through, and more importantly they can't call out.

Something is going to have to happen to turn us around. A mushroom cloud rising over NY or Chicago, or Dallas will probably do the trick, but I would like to see it turned around before that happens.

I would have thought that the hijacking and crashing of four jumbo jets, three of them into worldwide icons of America's strength and importance to the world, along with the deaths of over 3,000 people would have been sufficient. But I guess not.

There are no words to explain how angry I am that the situation has reached a point where the House can actually pass a resolution, non-binding or not, to openly rebel against the Commander-in-Chief while our troops are on foreign soil, dying and being horribly wounded on a daily basis.

The resolution might be non-binding on the President, but try to explain that to a bunch of crazed people who will pack their own babies with explosives and kill them just to get a few others.

[Vermont Lt]

Ollie, I have to disagree somewhat.

Yes, the Congress is ineffective. But so is the Commander in Chief. Bush's ineffective leadership has been costly. His "deer caught in the headlights" look since the invasion ended and--guess what--the Iraqis didn't give up! has cost us dearly.

So is the Pentagon's leadership, that does not allow the troops to fight the war they need to fight.

Yes, there are too many politically correct folks running this whole thing. War is war. The only people that seem to get that are those over there trying to fight it as best they can.

Damn the whole Washington group to hell. They deserve to burn for their ineptitude.

[jwparkerjr]

re: Are you planning on coming to DC on March 17th?

With all due respect, forget Washington DC. The most you could hope for is a million people and even then it would not be impressive. We need it to happen all across America, at every level.

Even if you get a million people the MSM will say the turnout was lower than expected and find a dozen or so counter-protesters and present their side of the story.

Things like the million-man march only work once, maybe twice, then they are no longer news. Or the MSM finds a way to blunt them.

No, we've got to find a new and unique way to express our anger and frustration. I'm thinking. Electing Newt as President will be a good start, but I don't want to wait until 2008!

[flynmudd]

With all due respect, when the loonies show up in larger numbers, people in this country will think we should give up. This country has too many sheeple that will lead us down the wrong road to ruin because the rest of us were too f'n busy with our own lives. Rather selfish if you ask me.

[WorkingClassFilth]

No. At some point, however, we may have to resort to the truly American solution of replacing it - by force if necessary - provided we still have the means given us by the Founders.

[sheana]

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

[GoldwaterChick]

You have stated the current situation perfectly.

The big news this morning is that Brittany Spears has shaved her head. I can't help but compare her downward spiral to that of our current Congress--outrageous, unacceptable, out-of-control behavior, (a non-binding resolution????), a horrendous disregard for her babies (our troops in harm's way), a train-wreck waiting to happen.

I also believe that if San Francisco or Los Angeles had been the target of the 9/11 terrorists, if the Hollywood studies had imploded, our ? Congress would be singing a different tune. Unfortunately it is going to take a major disaster again before they wake up to reality. I truly fear what is ahead for my children and grandchildren.

[Valin]

House Passes Defeatist Resolution: 17 Republicans Join the White Flag Caucus (Names named)
Victorycaucus ^ | 2/16/07 | NZ Bear

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1786527/posts

The House just completed voting, and has approved 246-182 the Democrats' defeatist resolution. This was expected: but the good news is, the 40-60 Republican defectors that the Democrats had been predicting failed to materialize. Only seventeen Republicans voted for the resolution --- and two Democrats broke ranks to vote against it.

First, let us recognize the two Democrats who did the right thing:

Representative Jim Marshall

Phone: 202-225-6531 Fax: 202-225-3013 Web Email

Representative Gene Taylor

Phone: 202-225-5772 Fax: 202-225-7074 Web Email

Note: The original version of this post incorrectly identified Reps. Baird and Nadler as the two dissenting Democrats. Sorry for the error.

And now, the seventeen Republicans who decided today to end their political careers:

Representative James T. Walsh

Phone: 202-225-3701 Fax: 202-225-4042 [Email: Rep.james.walsh AT mail.house.gov]

Representative Walter Jones

Phone: 202-225-3415 Fax: 202-225-3286 Web Email

Representative Wayne Gilchrest Phone: 202-225-5311 Fax: 202-225-0254 Web Email

Representative Michael Castle Phone: 202-225-4165 Fax: 202-225-2291 Web Email

Representative Richard (Ric) Keller

Phone: 202-225-2176 Fax: 202-225-0999 Web Email

Representative Philip Sheridan English

Phone: 202-225-5406 Fax: 202-225-3103 Web Email

Representative Ronald Ernest Paul

Phone: 202-225-2831 Web Email

Representative Frederick Stephen Upton

Phone: 202-225-3761 Fax: 202-225-4986 Web Email

Representative Thomas M. Davis

Phone: 202-225-1492 Fax: 202-225-3071 Web Email

Representative Mark Kirk

Phone: 202-225-4835 Fax: 202-225-0837 Web Email

Representative Howard Coble

Phone: 202-225-3065 Fax: 202-225-8611 Email: howard.coble AT mail.house.gov Web Email

Representative John J. Duncan Jr.

Phone: 202-225-5435 Fax: 202-225-6440 Web Email

Representative James Ramstad

Phone: 202-225-2871 Fax: 202-225-6351 Email: mn03 AT mail.house.gov Web Email

Representative Steven C. LaTOURETTE

Phone: 202-225-5731 Fax: 202-225-3307 Web Email

Representative Robert Inglis

Phone: 202-225-6030 Fax: 202-226-1177 Web Email

Representative Timothy V. Johnson

Phone: 202-225-2371 Fax: 202-226-0791 Web Email

Representative Thomas Petri

Phone: 202-225-2476 Fax: 202-225-2356 Web Email

[tcrlaf]

It's a PROPOGANDA WAR, folks...

One we lost long ago because our leadership refused to call these people what they really are, TRAITORS...

They thought that taking the high road, and not responding to the gutter rhetoric would work...

IT DID NOT...

Let's take a look at what is posted on just a SINGLE financial message board, in JUST THE LAST FEW MINUTES, shall we??

-Its now 12 ex-generals who say bush has screwed up this war (Not rated) 15 minutes ago but the military master minds here will tell ya how good a job the chimp has done

-Homo and Pediphile pukes enbolden our enemies (Not rated) 17 minutes ago Why are they our leaders?

-God Sided With Vietnam, God Will Side With Allah! (Not rated) 9 minutes ago Face It!, America Is Evil, Greedy and Gluttonous!!!!.

-U.S. CIA Has Been a Terrorist Organization (Not rated) 6 minutes ago Since It's Inception in 1947.....

-MORE CANNON FODDER NEEDED IN BAGHDAD - SIGN UP NOW GIRLS 11 minutes ago

-House Says No Escalation, Senate GOP Will Fight America (3 Ratings) 35 minutes ago

-Let see Bush at 28 percent approval rating, enough said he is a lame duck (1 Rating) 39 minutes ago the man is a walking disaster.

-Why no pukes enlisting (6 Ratings) 40 minutes ago Does cowards ring a bell?

-Republicans Support Money, They Love Money!!! (1 Rating) 52 minutes ago All They Ever Want Is No Taxes and Money For The Rich.

-Bush wastes trillions attacking the WRONG country (2 Ratings) 17-Feb-07 10:11 am why not impeach him now?

-I wish Bill Clinton was President again!! (7 Ratings) 17-Feb-07 08:21 am Oh wait he will be in Jan 09.. Let the good times roll

-Terrorist Attacks Tied To (1 Rating) 17-Feb-07 09:57 am US zioconazis.

-Victory In Iraq is Near!!!!!!!! (6 Ratings) 17-Feb-07 10:02 am Our plan is working wonderfully.
Sure we have had to let the war drag on a bit so that our good fascist republican corporations could maximize profits, but the war is going as planned.

-Dems get more done in a month than pukes in 6 years (2 Ratings) 17-Feb-07 10:08 am God Bless the Democrats.

-HILLARY SHOULD NAIL BUSH'S ASS ONCE & FOR ALL (1 Rating) 59 minutes ago

- Huge "SURGE" in (1 Rating) 59 minutes ago Bush's Lunacy........it does get worse.


This is DRIVE-BY SLOGANEERING, with little or no explanation offered, and it's VERY EFFECTIVE, when dealing with the sheeple who get thier "News" in 5 second soundbites before "American Idool" starts....

[Valin]

So many stupid people..so few bullets.



I call them moral midgets...their moral development stopped at age....5(?).

[Swiss]

Historically the most dangerious thing for a government has been disgunted military and their vets who feel that their leadership has betrayed them or let them down, Weimer Germany for example.

If anyone wants the overthrow or not is one thing but I think we are seeing the likelyhood increase thanks to the Democrats.

Got to admit that the idea of Muthra and Peloski seeing the Marines pull up en masse in front of the Capital brings a smile on my face.

Personally I have as much respect for our Congress and the American Voter as I do for the townsfolk in the Western movie "High Noon". The US Military may win the fight in Iraq but I wouldn't be surprised to see many rank and file throw down their tin star in disgust and leave the ranks thanks to the lack of support from our "elites" in Washington and the Press.

[hosepipe]

[.. I am increasingly convinced that overwhelming military action is the right solution to this problem - in Washington, D.C. ..]

True been saying that for 5/6/7 years..
The problem is Americans have become cowards..
A bloody civil war scares them into living "with it"..

Could be why theres the Afganistan, Iraqi Wars...
Gets anybody with any decent BALLS to speak of out of the United States..
You know anybody that might revolt into a civil war.. keeping them "busy"..

[astounded]

Agree with Col. North 100%. If the Iraq campaign, indeed the rest of the war against islamic totalitarianism, were happening on Clinton's watch, or any other democrat for that matter, but particularly Clinton, there would be nary a peep from congress, the "MSM", hollywood, academe, and so forth.

Those entities would be leading the cheers for the gallant, intrepid CINC taking it to the islamofascists. Casualities? Minimal, they would say. Far below any ever seen for such a successful campaign, well worth the sacrifice. Plus, after all, they are volunteers who, in the view of the limousine liberal democrats who control congress, have little better to do.

The democrat party is nothing but a bunch of despicable hypocrites.

[flynmudd]

The hypocrisy of voting to confirm Petraus 87-0 and then turning around and voting their displeasure at the troop surge makes blood shoot from my eyes.