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Rudy Guliani Opts Out of Religious Broadcasters MeetingIs Rudy Going to Ignore Evangelicals?
Associated Content ^ | February 16, 2007 | Jeff Musall

Posted on 02/18/2007 8:00:38 AM PST by WalterSkinner

With the bare fact being that no Republican in recent memory has been able to win a major contest without at least the tacit backing of the religious right, Rudy Guliani might be trying to buck that trend.

(Excerpt) Read more at associatedcontent.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christians; electionpresident; elections; evangelicals; giuliani; religion; rino; rudy; rudy2008
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1 posted on 02/18/2007 8:00:42 AM PST by WalterSkinner
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To: WalterSkinner

He might as well. We're going to ignore him.


2 posted on 02/18/2007 8:01:40 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: WalterSkinner

I'm a non evangelical conservative and I'm feeling pretty ignored as well.


3 posted on 02/18/2007 8:03:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: WalterSkinner

He's hoping they will disappear for the next 20 months, but resurface just in time to vote for him, with no questions asked. Giuliani also wants all Evangelicals to drop the nonsense about abortion, partial birth abortion, and homosexual rights. Just stop it! (/sarcasm)


4 posted on 02/18/2007 8:03:13 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: WalterSkinner

Good for Rudy. I don't know any Evangelicals who care about Pat Robertson's political pronouncements. I know I don't.


5 posted on 02/18/2007 8:04:05 AM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: WalterSkinner

Who cares?


6 posted on 02/18/2007 8:05:06 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: inkling

Pat Robertson does not speak for Evangelicals.


7 posted on 02/18/2007 8:05:32 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: cripplecreek
I'm a non evangelical conservative and I'm feeling pretty ignored as well.

You guys are starting to act like another person who didn't like being ignored:

8 posted on 02/18/2007 8:06:45 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: TommyDale
Pat Robertson does not speak for Evangelicals

..and anyone who thinks he does is missing the point...

9 posted on 02/18/2007 8:07:59 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: WalterSkinner

Every situation has two sides. It is high time that Presidential candidates, all of them, started focusing on the issues of MANAGING THIS COUNTRY and supporting a government for and by the people --- the critical issues facing this country.

They had better start focusing on the managerial issues facing America -- taxation, government spending, size and influence of government, deficits, trade, our laws, our borders, our Constitution, our system of laws, the military and the war on terror, and restoring respect for a government that is backsliding into deep socialism and political self-protection. America faces an INTERNAL ENEMY that is trying to dismantle the very fabric of this country.

Those are the issues that need to be on the table.


10 posted on 02/18/2007 8:09:12 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: TommyDale

Silly Rudy were elephants, we never forget;)


11 posted on 02/18/2007 8:09:57 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Hildy

Youve lost your mind!


12 posted on 02/18/2007 8:11:00 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: WalterSkinner

In reply to the article's final statement...

I've held my nose in many elections since
1950. The main thing I've learned is NOT
to believe everything you read/hear from
the media about ANYONE.


13 posted on 02/18/2007 8:11:04 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: Hildy

And you people have adopted every insulting liberal tactic in the book. Insults, ridicule, and intimidation aren't going to win you any elections.

A week ago I would have told you I would pull the lever for whatever republican is on the ballot but that's looking increasingly unlikely.

Good luck.


14 posted on 02/18/2007 8:11:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: WalterSkinner
Is Rudy Going to Ignore Evangelicals?

Why yes, that's absolutely the ONLY conclusion that you can draw from a candidate who still has a year to go before the primaries.

/s
15 posted on 02/18/2007 8:12:17 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: WalterSkinner
Evangelicals are whining because they are not having their asses kissed?

Wonder of wonders, what are they not whining about?

16 posted on 02/18/2007 8:14:13 AM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: All

..we will see if the mayor avoids evangelicals when he gets to South Carolina...


17 posted on 02/18/2007 8:15:05 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: WalterSkinner
Is he ignoring them?

Probably not. He just doesn't want to face them.

I hope he (and his allies) realize that if he is the nominee, there will be a third party pro life candidate, a spoiler. He's counting on skimming off enough support to win California and New York... but if he loses the middle of the country to a spoiler, then Ms. President will sweep him into the also-ran column.

18 posted on 02/18/2007 8:15:12 AM PST by PatrickF4 (Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought. - JP II)
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To: cripplecreek
A week ago I would have told you I would pull the lever for whatever republican is on the ballot but that's looking increasingly unlikely.

Proving, I think, that the evangelicals might be the single most immature voting block in the country.

19 posted on 02/18/2007 8:15:31 AM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: WalterSkinner

Though the link didn't get me to the article, the headline tells me that Rudy is missing a meeting, nothing more.

Agree or disagree, I think it would be imprudent for any candidate to ignore a voting bloc such as the Evangelicals - or any voting bloc at all, for that matter.

Perhaps Rudy's model for a successful Presidential campaign differs from the last few Republican Presidents, and does not depend heavily on the religious right. Perhaps he knows he will not get their vote, but is depending instead upon centrist and hawkish, Lieberman-type dems Democrats to give him a vote they would not give to any of the other, more mainstream Conservative Republican candidates.

Just throwing it out there. I don't think Rudy is going to try to pound a square peg into a round hole.


20 posted on 02/18/2007 8:17:04 AM PST by StatenIsland
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To: zarf

Who said I was an evangelical Mr Wizard?


21 posted on 02/18/2007 8:17:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: zarf
"Proving, I think, that the evangelicals might be the single most immature voting block in the country."

Comments like this are not winning any friends for Rudy among the undecided Christian voters. The fact that many Christians vote their religious beliefs does not make them immature, it speaks of their character, something the Giuliani people don't even begin to understand. After all, what kind of character has he shown in his private life?

23 posted on 02/18/2007 8:18:32 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: zarf

Its not just the evangelicals, but go ahead and think that.

My husband is not religious, nor does he care that much about the abortion issue, and if its Rudy he will NOT vote.

Im hearing it all over around here from NON evangelicals.

But not to worry, Rudy is splitting the far left too so youll have plenty of company in the booth for Rudy to save you from the beast.


24 posted on 02/18/2007 8:19:18 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: The Danger is Near

Amen!


26 posted on 02/18/2007 8:24:33 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: The Danger is Near

Yes, you guys are immature.

Many social cons don't want the Republican judges, nor do they want the Congress back. They are more interested in displays of authenticity than policy results.

Threatening to vote 3rd party is like being a political suicide bomber, but the antics here have an added layer of irrationality, in that they damage goals of the bomber instead of the bombed.


27 posted on 02/18/2007 8:24:49 AM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: All
..and just a reminder

Evangelicals are just a part of the Religious Right

Our conservative Roman Catholic and Jewish friends combined with us make up a pretty large bloc of voters.

28 posted on 02/18/2007 8:25:09 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: The Danger is Near

"vigorously opposed Evangelicals"


I thought this little bit from the national review (provided by Delphinium) was pretty telling:

"New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City.

The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform".
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp


29 posted on 02/18/2007 8:25:34 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: JHBowden

If the best the GOP can muster is McCain, Romney, or Rudy, then it is already dead. A corpse can't commit suicide.


30 posted on 02/18/2007 8:26:54 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: WalterSkinner
The Religious Right had better get right..and sit in the back seat and STFU!

Forget about a candidates personal view on abortion...as long as they will nominate judges to the SCOTUS like Thomas, Alito and Scalia.

31 posted on 02/18/2007 8:29:20 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: cripplecreek

bump


32 posted on 02/18/2007 8:30:44 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: OMalley
Rudy is splitting the far left

Half of them will vote for democrats.
33 posted on 02/18/2007 8:30:57 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: WalterSkinner
What would one expect from a notorious adultery that is pro-abortion and pro-homosexual agenda?

It would be a sin for any Christian to vote for Giullani.

34 posted on 02/18/2007 8:32:00 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: deaconjim

Speak for yourself. He has a vast number of supporters you are unaware of. Including the Religious Right.


35 posted on 02/18/2007 8:32:14 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: DCPatriot
Forget about a candidates personal view on abortion...as long as they will nominate judges to the SCOTUS like Thomas, Alito and Scalia.

Not like Rudy who says he favors judges like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
36 posted on 02/18/2007 8:32:22 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

I don't see any evidence of him splitting the left. He might snag a few Clinton democrats but he isn't going to win anyway so it doesn't matter.


37 posted on 02/18/2007 8:32:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: The Danger is Near

bump!


38 posted on 02/18/2007 8:33:33 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: WalterSkinner
When democrats elect a real democrat instead of a democrat lite, Please complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.
39 posted on 02/18/2007 8:34:24 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I'm not part of the Religious Right. I prefer to call myself part of the Faithful Right. There is a difference.


40 posted on 02/18/2007 8:34:30 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: Delphinium

When did he state that? Link please?


41 posted on 02/18/2007 8:34:38 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: deaconjim

That's retarded.

Evangelicals only became politically active in the 1970s. In contrast, the Republicans have been promoting pro-military, pro-business policies from Lincoln to McKinley to Eisenhower.

Duncan Hunter even isn't pure-- the guy is a big government protectionist at a time when classical economics has proven its superiority.

This shows the whining is less about purity, and more about activists throwing a baby-fit about 2-3 issues: abortion, gays, and maybe guns.


42 posted on 02/18/2007 8:36:16 AM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: WalterSkinner
Interesting take by the author.......


43 posted on 02/18/2007 8:36:16 AM PST by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: deaconjim
He might as well. We're going to ignore him.

Agreed.

44 posted on 02/18/2007 8:36:54 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Antoninus; GulfBreeze; processing please hold; Liz; OMalley; Coleus; wagglebee; MHGinTN

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1786929/posts?page=29#29


45 posted on 02/18/2007 8:36:57 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cripplecreek

well its not a scientific poll, but my liberal sister and her little gang of gay and leftist friends are already debating (just as harshly as we are) should it come down to rudy and hitlery.


46 posted on 02/18/2007 8:38:13 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Delphinium

Goodmorning Delpninium:-)

Hope you dont mind I borrowed your link!


47 posted on 02/18/2007 8:39:23 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: OMalley

I still feel like this is encouraging the democrats to run as far left as they please and to do so practically unopposed.


48 posted on 02/18/2007 8:40:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: zarf
Evangelicals are whining because they are not having their asses kissed?

ROFL! * snort *

49 posted on 02/18/2007 8:40:51 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: JHBowden

I haven't endorsed Hunter either.

I consider abortion, 2nd amendment rights, family values, and freedom of speech to be be very important issues. Am I wrong on that? I don't think so.


50 posted on 02/18/2007 8:41:44 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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