Skip to comments.Rudy Guliani Opts Out of Religious Broadcasters MeetingIs Rudy Going to Ignore Evangelicals?
Posted on 02/18/2007 8:00:38 AM PST by WalterSkinner
With the bare fact being that no Republican in recent memory has been able to win a major contest without at least the tacit backing of the religious right, Rudy Guliani might be trying to buck that trend.
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He might as well. We're going to ignore him.
I'm a non evangelical conservative and I'm feeling pretty ignored as well.
He's hoping they will disappear for the next 20 months, but resurface just in time to vote for him, with no questions asked. Giuliani also wants all Evangelicals to drop the nonsense about abortion, partial birth abortion, and homosexual rights. Just stop it! (/sarcasm)
Good for Rudy. I don't know any Evangelicals who care about Pat Robertson's political pronouncements. I know I don't.
Pat Robertson does not speak for Evangelicals.
You guys are starting to act like another person who didn't like being ignored:
..and anyone who thinks he does is missing the point...
Every situation has two sides. It is high time that Presidential candidates, all of them, started focusing on the issues of MANAGING THIS COUNTRY and supporting a government for and by the people --- the critical issues facing this country.
They had better start focusing on the managerial issues facing America -- taxation, government spending, size and influence of government, deficits, trade, our laws, our borders, our Constitution, our system of laws, the military and the war on terror, and restoring respect for a government that is backsliding into deep socialism and political self-protection. America faces an INTERNAL ENEMY that is trying to dismantle the very fabric of this country.
Those are the issues that need to be on the table.
Silly Rudy were elephants, we never forget;)
Youve lost your mind!
In reply to the article's final statement...
I've held my nose in many elections since
1950. The main thing I've learned is NOT
to believe everything you read/hear from
the media about ANYONE.
And you people have adopted every insulting liberal tactic in the book. Insults, ridicule, and intimidation aren't going to win you any elections.
A week ago I would have told you I would pull the lever for whatever republican is on the ballot but that's looking increasingly unlikely.
Wonder of wonders, what are they not whining about?
..we will see if the mayor avoids evangelicals when he gets to South Carolina...
Probably not. He just doesn't want to face them.
I hope he (and his allies) realize that if he is the nominee, there will be a third party pro life candidate, a spoiler. He's counting on skimming off enough support to win California and New York... but if he loses the middle of the country to a spoiler, then Ms. President will sweep him into the also-ran column.
Proving, I think, that the evangelicals might be the single most immature voting block in the country.
Though the link didn't get me to the article, the headline tells me that Rudy is missing a meeting, nothing more.
Agree or disagree, I think it would be imprudent for any candidate to ignore a voting bloc such as the Evangelicals - or any voting bloc at all, for that matter.
Perhaps Rudy's model for a successful Presidential campaign differs from the last few Republican Presidents, and does not depend heavily on the religious right. Perhaps he knows he will not get their vote, but is depending instead upon centrist and hawkish, Lieberman-type dems Democrats to give him a vote they would not give to any of the other, more mainstream Conservative Republican candidates.
Just throwing it out there. I don't think Rudy is going to try to pound a square peg into a round hole.
Who said I was an evangelical Mr Wizard?
Comments like this are not winning any friends for Rudy among the undecided Christian voters. The fact that many Christians vote their religious beliefs does not make them immature, it speaks of their character, something the Giuliani people don't even begin to understand. After all, what kind of character has he shown in his private life?
Its not just the evangelicals, but go ahead and think that.
My husband is not religious, nor does he care that much about the abortion issue, and if its Rudy he will NOT vote.
Im hearing it all over around here from NON evangelicals.
But not to worry, Rudy is splitting the far left too so youll have plenty of company in the booth for Rudy to save you from the beast.
Yes, you guys are immature.
Many social cons don't want the Republican judges, nor do they want the Congress back. They are more interested in displays of authenticity than policy results.
Threatening to vote 3rd party is like being a political suicide bomber, but the antics here have an added layer of irrationality, in that they damage goals of the bomber instead of the bombed.
Evangelicals are just a part of the Religious Right
Our conservative Roman Catholic and Jewish friends combined with us make up a pretty large bloc of voters.
"vigorously opposed Evangelicals"
I thought this little bit from the national review (provided by Delphinium) was pretty telling:
"New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City.
The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform".
If the best the GOP can muster is McCain, Romney, or Rudy, then it is already dead. A corpse can't commit suicide.
Forget about a candidates personal view on abortion...as long as they will nominate judges to the SCOTUS like Thomas, Alito and Scalia.
It would be a sin for any Christian to vote for Giullani.
Speak for yourself. He has a vast number of supporters you are unaware of. Including the Religious Right.
I don't see any evidence of him splitting the left. He might snag a few Clinton democrats but he isn't going to win anyway so it doesn't matter.
I'm not part of the Religious Right. I prefer to call myself part of the Faithful Right. There is a difference.
When did he state that? Link please?
Evangelicals only became politically active in the 1970s. In contrast, the Republicans have been promoting pro-military, pro-business policies from Lincoln to McKinley to Eisenhower.
Duncan Hunter even isn't pure-- the guy is a big government protectionist at a time when classical economics has proven its superiority.
This shows the whining is less about purity, and more about activists throwing a baby-fit about 2-3 issues: abortion, gays, and maybe guns.
So maybe Rudy Guliani is playing it smart. He knows that if he is the Republican candidate the evangelical voters will mostly do one of two things. Hold their noses and vote for him over the Democratic candidate, or stay home and not vote at all. Either way will help him.
well its not a scientific poll, but my liberal sister and her little gang of gay and leftist friends are already debating (just as harshly as we are) should it come down to rudy and hitlery.
Hope you dont mind I borrowed your link!
I still feel like this is encouraging the democrats to run as far left as they please and to do so practically unopposed.
ROFL! * snort *
I haven't endorsed Hunter either.
I consider abortion, 2nd amendment rights, family values, and freedom of speech to be be very important issues. Am I wrong on that? I don't think so.
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