Assault Rifles for Hunters? (Zumbo goes mad)

Remington Country website ^ | 16 FEB 2007 | Jim Zumbo

[xsrdx]

As I write this, I'm hunting coyotes in southeastern Wyoming with Eddie Stevenson, PR Manager for Remington Arms, Greg Dennison, who is senior research engineer for Remington, and several writers. We're testing Remington's brand new .17 cal Spitfire bullet on coyotes.

I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms.

I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are "tackdrivers."

Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don't use assault rifles. We've always been proud of our "sporting firearms."

This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don't need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the praries and woods.

[xsrdx]

Jim Zumbo is a professional hunter and outdoor writer employed by the Remington Arms company and Outdoor Life magazine.

Didn't know he was also a gun control advocate, but that would appear to be the case.

[Check6]

Just another liberal in search of a life.

[Dutch Boy]

Yet another leftist idea rots tradition from the inside. The 2A is not about hunting. It is about keeping citizens armed.

[colorcountry]

Similar posting here : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1786992/posts

I've heard this kind of reasoning before. I think Zumbo and his ilk, came out in oposition to archery hunting because it wasn't effective "enough."

Kind of hypocritical.

[xsrdx]

Website is actually Outdoor Life, not Remington.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Just one final statement.
I've been sitting here getting more and more fed up with all of this talk about these, pieces of machinery, having no legitimate sporting purpose, no legitimate hunting purpose, people, that is not the point of the second amendment!
The second amendment is not about duck hunting, and I know I'm not going to make very many friends saying this, but it's about our right, all of our right to be able to protect our selves from all of you guys up there.
And nobody's talked about that.

Dr. Suzanna Gratia, Killeen massacre survivor who watched as her parents were murdered because she obeyed Texas law and left her handgun locked in her car. Appearing before Rep Schumer's committee hearings on the assault weapons ban

[mountainlyons]

If this guy ,whoever he is, would check regulations, he would find his most feared "assault rifles" were indeed not allowed for most hunting. AR15 are used for target shooting in some matches. Aks are not too much used because they lack accuracy. Most of the "assault rifle" paranoia is from misinformation and a total lack of knowledge!

[xsrdx]

Yes, my search was WEAK - and the previous post was not indexed to Banglist.

[rellimpank]

--an edition or two ago of the yearly Gun Digest had an interesting piece on the great controversy at about the turn of the last century--the "traditionalists" bird hunting with double-barrelled shotguns like God intended vs. the horrible types who were using (gasp) slide action and even (double gasp) "automatics"---

--nothing new under the sun, I guess---

[xsrdx]

If this guy ,whoever he is,

Unfortunately he is, or was, highly regarded in the big game hunting community.

I predict this blog posting will not enhance his reputation...

[Reeses]

I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity.

The vanity is there so he's definitely a liberal. I, me, I, me. With vanity comes envy. He's the self-appointed decider of other people's possessions.

I really doubt the Constitution writers intended protecting hobbies. More likely they wanted to protect America against vain self-appointed kings and queens.

[flashbunny]

Guess that will keep me from buying outdoor life magazine and anything made by remington.

Note to Jim Zumbo: The 2nd amendment isn't about duck hunting.

[Anti-Bubba182]

"Jim Zumbo is a professional hunter and outdoor writer employed by the Remington Arms company and Outdoor Life magazine."

Zumbo ought to be fired. He is part of a clique of "sportman" who think their so called sporting rifles will safe if they just give up on Military style weapons. The NRA had a few of these.

This one is actually worse than an upfront gun grabber. He is taking sustenance from shooters and the industry.

[depressed in 06]

The 2nd Amendment is that the people remain the ultimate arbiters of their rights and freedoms. It has a duality that a first seems to be contradictory, to protect this Constitution. If the Constitution should become suborned or otherwise attacked, the people have a right to defend it. Should the Constitution be interpreted wrongly or not enforced the people have a right to defend it.

[Tarpon]

The AW++ ban will be back before the next election, count on it. The signs of this revving up are everywhere, only the timing of the final push is up for grabs. Probably right before the next election, like last time.

We used 223 M16s for plinking and prairie dog/ground squirrel hunting, in Colorado. The ranchers wanted them out, they dug holes and their cows tripped and broke legs by falling in the burros. As far as I know, no one was scared or cared. The reason, the ammo was cheap, effective, and it was fun. I personally didn't have a M16, I used my trusty Ruger mini.

Higher taxes to pay for socialism and gun control, new donks same as old donks.

[petro45acp]

Paraphrasing an article in Mr. Dillon's "Blue Press."..."if you don't vote (think, act, speak)like a gun owner, you 5UCK!"

As had been said here, the Second Amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. If an AR 15 is the right caliber for what you are hunting, so be it.

Stay alert

[Poser]

Bump

There are some replies on his site with a pile of email addresses for comments.

[DocH]

We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them

zumbo may the type of liberal SCUM that would suggest our military personnel are going around the world and using similar (though fully-automatic or three-round burst) firearms to "terrorize" innocents.

This guy is EXACTLY the type of arrogant know-it-all elitist hunter that doesn't have a clue, and/or doesn't CARE about the TRUE meaning of our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS.

He would probably approve of a gun-grabbing RINO like rudy as a president who would most likely push for a PERMANENT ban on so-called "assault weapons" (SEMI-automatic firearms), after all, as these gun-grabbers (with a "D" OR and "R"-for RINO after their names) like to (RIDICULOUSLY and UNECCESSARILY) point out...

"You don't NEED a UZI or a AK-47 to hunt deer".

I suppose their anti-gun refrain will now include, "You don't NEED an ASSAULT WEAPON to hunt coyotes".

I stopped getting Outdoor Life MANY years ago because I noted a preference for "traditional" hunting (with only politically correct shotguns and rifles), but a disdain for other forms of practicing our 2nd Amendment rights, but to hear this a**hole is working for Remington as well...well,

they should fire his a**.

[SampleMan]

I wonder how he would respond to being told that the 2A doesn't protect hunting?

I think a good response to why would you use an AR to hunt deer is, "Why wouldn't I?"

This pulls out all the lies about AR's, that can be trounced one by one. "It sprays bullets." No more than a semi-auto Browning or Remington. "It causes hunters to shoot too much." Hello. The same was said of all repeating firearms. Why should a lever action hold seven rounds?

The only rational idea (I said rational not necessarily good) concerning AR's would be to limit the magazine capacity for all hunting rifles, as is done with shotguns for waterfowl.

[lowbridge]

Someone ought to take Jim's SNIPER RIFLE away from him before he hurts somebody.