Skip to comments.Mossburg 500(Vanity)
Posted on 02/19/2007 5:40:47 PM PST by Charlespg
Have any Freepers Had experence with useing aftermarket stocks for a mossburg 500a 12ga ? (18 inch barrel)
I have one with the original factory stock but despite a slipon recoil pad it still beats on my shoulder a bit
Watch out for the minimum overall length requirement for your shotgun. 26" total minimum.
Federal or state law regarding the 26" length.
I've used a few but that gun is pretty light and any full power loads are gonna let you know they are there. I've never really tried to dampen that gun up but I would say that if a recoil pad isn't enough you may just have to live with it or use lighter loads for your regular use. If it's for home defense you can always keep your full power loads in it at home.
My mods have been limited to barrel changes, mounts and a few different sights.
Try a synthetic stock, maybe even a Choate w/pistol grip. The synthetic stocks flex a little and seem to help quite a bit with recoil. I fire a 14" Mossberg 500 w/syn stock and it has much less recoil than the old Rem 870 18" wooden stock did. I have to qualify w/slugs and OO buck, so any reduction in recoil is appreciated.
My experience with Mossberg 500 shotguns is that they are lightweight and kick more than most similar shotguns.
I know of nothing that lightens up the recoil to any signficant level.
Then again, farmers around here buy the 500 as a "disposable" shotgun - they use them to shoot blackbirds - and shoot a thousand rounds or so through them and they are worn out... Then again, they are using light loads, so they are not so concerned with recoil.
Try Knoxx Specops adjustable stocks. It's an adjustable stock with and without shock suppression. Also if it's for home defense, try another load. I use Hornady TAP 12 ga. buckshot. Low flash. Low recoil.
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Get a wooden stock. Remove the butt plate and bore a 3/4 inch hole about 6 inches into it. Fill with molten lead and let cool.
Replace butt plate, add a recoil pad if you wish.
The felt recoil will be greatly reduced. Only use 2 3/4 inch shells, and stay away from anything that says "magnum".
A bit? You must have an iron shoulder. My "Mossburg shoulder" still hasn't fully recovered.
at least 100 firearm sites out there. Think the guy could do better
I've got a Mossberg 500 with a synthetic stock. I haven't really noticed any substantial recoil with it, but felt recoil is as much subjective as it is a function of the gun's weight and the load you're using.
I haven't fired any magnum loads through it, though. If you're using magnum loads or 00 buckshot, that's way too powerful for home defense. The shot will rip right through drywall and hollow doors and have plenty of velocity left over to kill anyone in the pattern behind your target. A regular 2-3/4 inch shell with #4 buckshot is plenty powerful enough to take out any bad guy, and overpenetration is greatly reduced. And at typical home defense ranges, the pattern won't be much bigger than a couple of inches, even with a short cylinder bore barrel.
Are you shooting 3"? Try 23/4" loads. Up close, a perp won't know the difference.
I had a Winchester 1300 with a pistol grip once. The gun looked cool as hell, especially after I put a barrel shroud on it, but I couldn't shoot it for sh!t. I had it out at the range once, trying 3" 00 buckshot in it. It was hotter than the hinges, like it is for at least 6 months out of the year here in Florida, and my hands were very sweaty. I damned near lost the gun when I fired it, it hyperextended my wrist and took a hunk of skin out of the web between my thumb and forefinger.
I sold it shortly after that.
The Factory Mossberg barrel is 18 1/2". When the 18 1/2" barrel is installed on a Moss 500 with either a Factory rear pitsol grip or any of the numerous after-market pistol grips the overall length of this pump action shotgun is
27 1/2" or 28"'s. Well within the 26"'s allowed.
Hard shooting! But is just the shotgun to carry in a motor
home with its tight quarters.
check out www.knoxx.com for shock absorbing stocks and limbsaver.com for recoil absorbing pads.
Why does the lead ease the recoil? Makes the gun heavier?
Yup. F=MA. For every action there is an equal reaction.
LOL!!Holy Sh1t! With a load like that it's amazing no one behind you got hurt by being hit with the gun using grips like that lol. What's funny is when someone like Barbara Boxer sees a shotgun tricked out with those grips and heat shroud, she thinks it should be banned. She believes in banning firearms based on how they look, not knowing a gun outfitted in such a way makes it less combat effective, for me anyway.
Yes, more mass in the gun lessens felt recoil.
Lead is cheaper than murcury recoil reducers, but they both do the same thing. If you use lead shot instead of cast lead, make sure you pack some wadding in tight behind the shot so it doesn't shift under recoil (negating some of its mass).
BTW, the mossburgs (and several other pump shotties) have aluminum receivers to make them lighter in weight.
Mossberg 500's come with 18.5" and 20" barrells, in addition to longer hunting choices. They are factory produced, perfectly legal, and popular as hell. Your rant does not enlighten the poster, nor anyone wishing accurate information about a legal product. Go find another boogy-man to scare folks with.
Makes sense. Thanks.
Make sure that the stock is the right size. If it is too long or too short, it will not make firm contact with your shoulder before you shoot, dramatically increasing perceived recoil.
You might talk to a helpful gun dealer. If memory serves, there are a lot of aftermarket stocks for the Mossberg 500, you should be able to find something that helps.
OK, explain this to me, if the ATF requires 26", how can these shorter lengths be legal?
Some state allow you to get special licenses for things like short barreled rifles, silencers, and full autos.
thx for the photo - now going to look for one.
Actually, the BATF has provisions for licensing short barreled shotguns if legal in your state of residence.
the 26" figure is overall length, but the barrel still has to have a min 18" length in order to be legal without special license (Research NFA for further info).
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Used to fire a beautiful Mossberg 12 gauge as a kid. Hell of a kick on that thing but man did it put a tight pattern on a target.
Choate makes a stock with a pretty good sized recoil pad. It also has adjustable spacers. You could also add a little weight by buying the ammo carriers like a SideSaddle that mounts six rounds on the right side of the receiver. They also have slip on ammo carriers that attach to the rear stock.
I'm a fan of Mossberg 500's since they have the safety on the top rear of the receiver and can be modified to chamber Aguila Mini-shells.
Did that, 675 is not too bad a price.
Now gotta see if legl in AK.
Remington as well as other ammo manufacturers produce reduced power loads, both buckshot and slugs. I've shot a lot of that ammo through my Mossberg 590 A1 and it does reduce felt recoil considerably. For instance, Remington claims a 40% reduction in felt recoil.
A typical full power 12 gauge load has a muzzle velocity of about 1600 feet per second. A reduced load will have a muzzle velocity of about 1200 feet per second. At personal defense distances, the BG will never know the difference.
Some law enforcement agencies also use reduced power rounds so the stuff is considered effective for the intended use plus it is less likely to over penetrate and harm innocent bystanders.
The bottom line, of course, is that a 12 gauge shotgun is a potent firearm and there's only so much you can do to tame the beast.
I've got a Mossberg 500, 18.5 in barrel, and I've switched out the original stocks for a nylon pistolgrip in the back.
With that gun, it isn't about accuracy. :-)
I also learned the hard way that you *don't* want to shoot 3-in magnums with the pistol grip in place, at least not very many times. I do keep it loaded with 5 shots, set in the following order: 3 #6 2.5in hunting loads, then 2 #00buck/#6shot combo 3in mag.
I figure if I need shots 4 and 5, I won't care by then how much they hurt. And they do hurt. :-)
Say... speaking of the safety on the mossberg 500... mine has what I understand is a common problem, and that is a broken thumb switch. Is there a better aftermarket safety switch for that thing?
Ask and you shall receive...
My Brownells catalog (2004)lists a safety button, military special, metal. $15.94
Regular safety button, plastic. $5.50
Brownells Office/Tech 641 623 5401
Orders 800 741 0015
Wow... two answers in about ten minutes.
You know... this Internet thing is pretty cool. I'll bet it really catches on. :-)
It's the momentum(m*v) that results in recoil. Conservation of momentum means the gun must have the same momentum as the gas and lead lost. The lead carries a loy of momentum, but so does the hot gas. If the gun is heavier, it's speed will be proportionately less.
Chas... if you get a stock that has more of an angle than the original stock, it will reduce felt recoil. The reciever will sit higher when the guns sholdered.
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