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Al Gore and his carbon footprint
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Posted on 02/19/2007 10:32:25 PM PST by airedale

I heard that Al Gore people are saying that he buys Carbon offsets to cover his carbon footprint caused by his 4 homes, private jet travel and other travel. This raises a question: Are the purchase of carbon offsets tax deductible? To what extent? Is he using the taxpayers to fund his carbon footprint reduction or is he doing this on his own?


TOPICS: Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: algore; carbonfootprint; climatechange; democrat; demwits; enviromentalism; gorism; hypocrit; moron; nobelnominee

1 posted on 02/19/2007 10:32:27 PM PST by airedale
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To: airedale

Uhhh.....what's a carbon offset?


2 posted on 02/19/2007 10:35:18 PM PST by SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
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To: airedale

Gore has held these apocalyptic views about the environment for some time. So why, then, didn't Gore dump his family's large stock holdings in Occidental (Oxy) Petroleum? As executor of his family's trust, over the years Gore has controlled hundreds of thousands of dollars in Oxy stock. Oxy has been mired in controversy over oil drilling in ecologically sensitive areas.

Living carbon-neutral apparently doesn't mean living oil-stock free. Nor does it necessarily mean giving up a mining royalty either.

Humanity might be "sitting on a ticking time bomb," but Gore's home in Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.

The issue here is not simply Gore's hypocrisy; it's a question of credibility. If he genuinely believes the apocalyptic vision he has put forth and calls for radical changes in the way other people live, why hasn't he made any radical change in his life? Giving up the zinc mine or one of his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to radically change our lives.


3 posted on 02/19/2007 10:35:41 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: airedale

Don`t know about ALGORES carbon footprint but, it`s a proven fact that right after he speaks, the Rose Bushes look better.


4 posted on 02/19/2007 10:36:41 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: airedale
If Al has incorporated himself, as AlGore LLC, they might be deductible as an "operating expense." But there's still the greater expense of buying them to begin with vs. the ~35% deduction to taxable income. Carbon offset credits are otherwise not deductible as a charitable contribution, to my knowledge. And if they were, there's still the greater cost to buy them vs. the charitable benefit to taxable income. And once sold, they are not-transferable unless re-sold to another party, in which case AlGore would lose the benefit of having purchased them to begin with.

Regardless, AlGore should LBE (lead by example) instead of "buying" a smaller carbon footprint for himself.

Another "man of the people" clueless of how the people actually live.

5 posted on 02/19/2007 10:42:25 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: george76
The issue here is not simply Gore's hypocrisy; it's a question of credibility. If he genuinely believes the apocalyptic vision he has put forth and calls for radical changes in the way other people live, why hasn't he made any radical change in his life? Giving up the zinc mine or one of his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to radically change our lives.

Buying carbon offsets. Thats great slight off hand for bean counters, but in the real world he's an absolute A$.....uhhh...hypocrite, yeah, hypocrite thats the word.

6 posted on 02/19/2007 10:43:27 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: airedale

I could care less about my "carbon footprint".....because of Al Gore, I drive 20 minutes more everyday and buy beans so's I can....


7 posted on 02/19/2007 10:47:33 PM PST by Dallas59 (Case Closed)
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To: airedale

What did they do to offset the record albums burned by the PMRC?


8 posted on 02/19/2007 10:49:12 PM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: george76

Weren't there a couple of issues concerning the Clinton Administration and Occidental Petroleum near the end of Clinton's second term? I seem to recall something about the wells in California related to the strategic reserve begin ceded to Oxy and something about protecting an Oxy pipeline in Columbia, but I'm not sure of the details. Can anyone fill in the blanks?


9 posted on 02/19/2007 10:49:16 PM PST by benldguy
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To: mountn man

Al Gore : Environmentalist And Zinc Miner


10 posted on 02/19/2007 10:51:10 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: benldguy

Not sure of the details of your question, but al and his family have been playing both sides of this oil business.

Al's Dad got lots of oil stock as payment for politically helping big oil...




11 posted on 02/19/2007 10:54:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DTogo

I will pay attention to the first Global Warming conference where the attendees arrive on bicycles. the Swiss confab, to say nothing of IPCC, involve well heeled honchos jetting in from all over the globe and leaving a "carbon footprint" exceeding that of most third world countries. Or hey, here's an idea, now that Algore has invented the internet, they could video-conference!


12 posted on 02/19/2007 10:59:55 PM PST by barkeep (Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc)
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
Tracking Your Carbon Footprint

It's basically a scam. For a mere 100+ dollars, my family and I can become "carbon neutral". How you may ask? By donating this money to an organization that will plant trees to "offset" my carbon footprint. I tried their silly carbon footprint calculator and my family and I produce a mere 10 tones of CO2. For my donation they will plant 44 trees to "offset" the amount of greenhouse gases that I produce.

I seriously wonder how I can get in on this scam? Charge environ mental midgets to feel good about themselves...well, they always say a fool and his money are soon parted.
13 posted on 02/19/2007 11:07:29 PM PST by MissouriConservative (We accommodate other cultures at the expense of ours.)
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To: george76
Al's Dad got lots of oil stock as payment for politically helping big oil...

Well, not exactly.
14 posted on 02/19/2007 11:18:40 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: george76

Details, please.


15 posted on 02/19/2007 11:44:02 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: MissouriConservative

It's pseudo-science. Every engineering student knows that accumulation is input-output. NONE of these silly calculators ask anything about output. I have SEVEN fully grown Douglas Fir trees in my back yard.

This is just as thought out as man-made global warming. Three years of ocean cooling, offsetting the last fifty years of increase by 20%. It's not in the model for warming, it's unpredictable.

The man-made global warming model is crap science.

DK


16 posted on 02/20/2007 12:05:02 AM PST by Dark Knight
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So Algore is sending money to the ChiComs?


17 posted on 02/20/2007 12:08:41 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: airedale

Gosh, I wonder what the "carbon footprint" of a few jihadists nukes going off in the USA would be?

Since Gore and his ilk are so eager to take our eye of the terrorist ball, I think they should think about such things.


18 posted on 02/20/2007 12:19:34 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Dark Knight

"The man-made global warming model is crap science."

No truer words have ever been spoken. I figure they are dumb enough to believe it, I'm going to be smart enough to profit from it.

P.T. Barnum mentioned one born every minute and he cashed in on it. All I need to do is partner with a local greenhouse and keep part of the profit as a middle man. They were going to charge me about $104 dollars to plant 44 trees, probably tiny trees that will not reach carbon footprint eating capacity for a number of decades. So that figures about $2.36 or so per tree. And considering that they figure my 10.05 tons of CO2 equals 44 trees, that's about 4.38 trees per ton. I'm sure there is a nice profit in there somewhere. There are schools that are trying to figure the carbon footprint of the schools and/or the kids and their parents. I could even give a group discount.

When it is not so late in the evening/early in the morning, I'm going to sit down and figure out how much can be made taking money from those with more money than brain cells.


19 posted on 02/20/2007 12:29:19 AM PST by MissouriConservative (We accommodate other cultures at the expense of ours.)
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To: MissouriConservative

the elephant in the room is the growing antarctica ice caps, icicles on california citrus fruit, eleven feet of snow in buffalo

global fraud from the idiots that can't predict the weather two weeks hence


20 posted on 02/20/2007 12:57:28 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (what does al qaeda and bush have in common? caves)
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
AlGore is "carbon neutral."
21 posted on 02/20/2007 1:00:46 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: airedale

Why wasn't Al Gore whining about this in the 2000 election? Why didn't he say anything or do anything much from 92 to 2000? Did he just wait until the dims were no longer responsible to whine and blame Bush???


22 posted on 02/20/2007 1:54:36 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: airedale

Has he cleaned up the toxic waste dump on his farm yet?


23 posted on 02/20/2007 4:54:05 AM PST by GailA (Proud to admit I'm a quilt-a-holic.)
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
Uhhh.....what's a carbon offset?

It's something you are going to have to buy when your "personal" carbon footprint gets to big.

In other words, it's another opportunity for Liberals to tax you and take your money to solve "global warming".

Bet on it. It's coming.

24 posted on 02/20/2007 5:56:06 AM PST by Gritty (Spend every "climate" dime on Internet porn instead, and it wouldn't make any difference-Mark Steyn)
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To: airedale

25 posted on 02/20/2007 5:57:18 AM PST by Gritty (Global warming represents the Democrats’ weapons of mass destruction - Noel Sheppard)
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To: airedale

The carbon credit economy will be the biggest all time money scam in the history of mankind.


26 posted on 02/20/2007 5:59:19 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (A Muslim soldier can never be loyal to a non-Muslim commander.)
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To: airedale

Shouldn't it be called a Hypocrite Offset??

Pray for W and Our Troops


27 posted on 02/20/2007 6:02:52 AM PST by bray (Redeploy to Tehran)
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To: airedale

Rich hypocrites. Normal people can't afford "offsets". If he is really concerned about the environment, he would figure out how to put his homes into warm shutdowns while he isn't there. Al Gore continues to raise the Moron Bar to new heights.


28 posted on 02/20/2007 6:03:54 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: caveat emptor

Thanks for the links


29 posted on 02/20/2007 7:33:54 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jws3sticks

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm


30 posted on 02/20/2007 7:36:13 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MissouriConservative

You voiced once an intention to run for State Rep. I hope that's still the case. We all want to know. You gonna do it?

To explain my handle, I work for a company that is full of liberals and I just don't politics at the office...hence the "R in D Clothing."

I used to post under another name.


31 posted on 02/20/2007 3:16:25 PM PST by R in D Clothing
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To: R in D Clothing

Unfortunately I cannot run as long as I work where I do now. I currently work for the federal government and cannot run in a partisan election due to federal law.

If the situation changes, I would love to run. But right now my hands are tied.


32 posted on 02/20/2007 5:42:30 PM PST by MissouriConservative (We accommodate other cultures at the expense of ours.)
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To: george76

Al Bore is such an A$$HOLE!


33 posted on 02/20/2007 6:50:30 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: george76

Al Bore is such an A$$HOLE!


34 posted on 02/20/2007 6:58:32 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: MissouriConservative

Where do you work, if you don't mind my asking?

Are you a contractor or a full-time employee?


35 posted on 02/20/2007 9:34:25 PM PST by R in D Clothing
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
Uhhh.....what's a carbon offset?

Do you know how to use Google?

36 posted on 02/20/2007 9:36:06 PM PST by paulat
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To: R in D Clothing

I work for the Department of the Treasury. I am a full time employee.


37 posted on 02/20/2007 10:18:39 PM PST by MissouriConservative (We accommodate other cultures at the expense of ours.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Do you know if the Rs have any one to run in the 44th?


38 posted on 02/21/2007 11:23:41 AM PST by R in D Clothing
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