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A Very Harry Ending
New York Post ^ | February 20, 2007 | ANGELA MONTEFINISE

Posted on 02/20/2007 2:08:05 PM PST by CholeraJoe

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To: Tanniker Smith

Re: #200. On closer examination, the dark haired boy to the left is wearing Ravenclaw colors, so that would make him Anthony Goldstien or Terry Boot, if the movie follows the book. The short boy to the right is named Nigel. He's a Gryffindor and appeared in Goblet of Fire but none of the books.


201 posted on 02/23/2007 5:58:40 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: CholeraJoe
I figured it was Michael Corner--he was dating Ginny at the time. She was the one who got him interested in the DA.

So is this Nigel a replacement for Colin Creevey, do you think? I don't think I've seen any of the movies from beginning to end, and I don't remember if Colin was cut from them or not.

202 posted on 02/23/2007 6:53:51 AM PST by grellis
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To: grellis

Colin only appeared in the second movie. I think you're right about Nigel being a replacement surrogate for the Creevey brothers. (Colin and Dennis) In book 5, the Creevey brothers were in Dumbledore's Army.


203 posted on 02/23/2007 7:50:02 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: CholeraJoe

Great pic CJ!


204 posted on 02/23/2007 7:54:44 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tanniker Smith

What if the scar on Harry's head is one of Voldermart's horcruxes. What happens then?


205 posted on 02/23/2007 7:57:00 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: grellis

Goldstein, Boot and Corner were the 3 Ravenclaw boys in the DA.


206 posted on 02/23/2007 8:02:59 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: painter
I've heard that many times, and I just don't get it.

I would imagine that creating a horcrux isn't an easy thing to do, how did he create one accidentally? And I think that he had a plan for the 7 horcruxes in advance, so leaving one in Harry would be out of the plan. For that matter, everything else that has been considered as a possible horcrux has been an object, a thing. A scar just doesn't seem like a place to put a piece of one's soul. And Voldemort wouldn't have tried to kill Harry in GoF if he knew that there was a piece of his own soul in him.

Sooooo, whatever significance the scar may have, I don't think it's a horcrux.

207 posted on 02/23/2007 8:08:28 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: CholeraJoe

Neville is slumping ... the actor is taller than that now :-).

When are they going to field a Hogwarts basketball team?


208 posted on 02/23/2007 8:16:51 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tanniker Smith
so leaving one in Harry would be out of the plan

But if there was a bone-sliver involved, Harry would be carrying Corpse Sickness, and actually fading away and dying without ever noticing, until he's a walking shade. It happened to Scott Glenn in a movie.

(Just a little American Indian tie-in :-).

209 posted on 02/23/2007 8:19:14 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tax-chick

Ah, but remember how dithery she gets when Ron is being squished by the Devil's Snare in the first book?

They took my favorite part out of the movie: "Are you a witch or aren't you?!"


210 posted on 02/23/2007 8:21:39 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: CholeraJoe

Notice they are all wearing Gryffindor colors. Some people have been questioning that, because Wormtail "went bad" and that isn't supposed to happen except to Slytherins.


211 posted on 02/23/2007 8:25:44 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: Tax-chick

But why is she GREEN?? *Said in my best Captain Jack accent*


212 posted on 02/23/2007 8:27:15 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Ooh. Now you ruined my certainty that if one twin went, the other would.


213 posted on 02/23/2007 8:31:55 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: Politicalmom
I think any wizard can "go bad", but it's more likely for Slytherins because they're the most ambitious. Slytherin turns out "great" wizards that do "great" things, so long as you remember the definition of "great" as something other than "really, really good".

Look at whatsisname from book 1. THere was no indication that he was a Slytherin, and I believe that he was in charge of either Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff.

TS

214 posted on 02/23/2007 8:54:27 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: Politicalmom
But why is she GREEN??

Part leprechaun?
Actually, I only noticed the purple hair. Maybe it's a contrast thing and she just appears to be green.

TS
"It's not easy being green . . . "

215 posted on 02/23/2007 8:56:02 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Look at whatsisname from book 1.

Do you mean Professor Quirrel? If so, the book was silent as to his House. He wasn't a Head of House professor, though. Flitwick is Ravenclaw and Sprout is Hufflepuff.

216 posted on 02/23/2007 8:58:25 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: CholeraJoe

Ah, yes, thank you. I stand corrected. It's been a while since I reread the first one.


217 posted on 02/23/2007 9:05:10 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: Politicalmom

LOL! She looks kind of mustardy on my screen. I think it's the lighting in the photo.


218 posted on 02/23/2007 9:07:55 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Politicalmom

That's true, but she was only 11 then. She should have outgrown shrieking by 14.


219 posted on 02/23/2007 9:08:40 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Yeah, but he was actually possessed by old Voldy.


220 posted on 02/23/2007 9:10:25 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: Politicalmom

I don't think only Slytherins can go bad. That would be too obvious. We don't know (at least I don't) what House Mundungus or Umbridge or Fudge were in as students. And Percy is a bit of a question mark!

JKR has stated many times through Dumbledore that it's all about choices. The Sorting Hat wanted to put Harry into Slytherin, but he begged for Gryffindor.He's also a Parselmouth but that doesn't make him a bad guy.


221 posted on 02/23/2007 9:11:29 AM PST by andyssister
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To: Tax-chick

I did some of my best shrieking in high school. :)


222 posted on 02/23/2007 9:11:45 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: Politicalmom

I'd grown into Snide Sneering by high school. I guess it's just an individual choice ...


223 posted on 02/23/2007 9:13:01 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Do you think Hagrid was a Gryffindor before he was expelled? He always cheers for Gryffindor but I think that's because of Harry. Hagrid impresses me as Hufflepuff material - Hard working, but not too bright.


224 posted on 02/23/2007 9:24:54 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: Tax-chick

We'll see in this movie. She shrieked once in "Goblet of Fire" at the World Cup and she was 14 then.


225 posted on 02/23/2007 9:27:33 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: CholeraJoe

I think he was Gryffindor. Neville isn't too bright, either.


226 posted on 02/23/2007 9:50:06 AM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: Young Werther

You wanna see a magic wand? I got a magic wand riiigght here!


227 posted on 02/23/2007 9:58:10 AM PST by jrg
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To: jrg
Plunk your magic twanger Froggy!!!

Andy was Devine!

"And now kids its time for.....Classic Cartoons with Tugboat Willy!"

Boy did I just date myself!

228 posted on 02/23/2007 10:01:21 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: Politicalmom

Neville is brave and that is the quality Gryffindor valued most. He stood up to Harry, Hermione and Ron in Book 1 to keep them from sneaking out and getting into trouble. In Book 5, Neville fought Death Eaters while carrying the unconscious Hermione, despite his smashed face. In Book 6, Neville answered the call for help when Death Eaters invaded Hogwarts. He was one of only 2 DA members to do so.


229 posted on 02/23/2007 11:31:47 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: CholeraJoe

Hagrid is brave and loyal, too, so I think he could easily be Gryffindor.


230 posted on 02/23/2007 12:33:27 PM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: CholeraJoe
More murder, torture, kidnapping, theft, voyeurism, child abuse, animal cruelty, and interracial dating

Sounds like a fun evening at the cinema!

231 posted on 02/23/2007 12:35:00 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Politicalmom
Yeah, but he was actually possessed by old Voldy.

Possessed? Not really. More like a willing host. He made a choice to host Voldemort, which doesn't seem like a "good" thing.

232 posted on 02/23/2007 1:15:42 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: CholeraJoe
Do you think Hagrid was a Gryffindor before he was expelled?

You know, I hadn't thought about that. He was Voldemort's roommate, wasn't he? A good friend, if nothing else. That would mean that Hagrid was Slytherin. I never saw Hagrid as the ambitious type, just as a lovable big lug with a badass motorcycle and trick umbrella. (Hmmmm, Hagrid would've fit in on the 1966 version of "Batman" on TV.)

233 posted on 02/23/2007 1:18:30 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: CholeraJoe
I'm hoping that Neville gets to shine in Book 7. Everything is set up for him, being that he could be part of a prophecy, and he needs to avenge his parents and of course stand up to his toughest nemesis . . .

Grandma.

234 posted on 02/23/2007 1:21:18 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Don't think he was Tom Riddle's roommate. Hagrid was expelled in his third year. In Book 2, Riddle was a sixth year when Hagrid got the boot.


235 posted on 02/23/2007 1:36:47 PM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: Tanniker Smith
Professor McGonagall gave Neville a very nice compliment in Book 6. "Augusta (Neville's Gran) needs to learn to be proud of the grandson she has, not the one she thinks she ought to have."

Neville can watch my back anytime.

236 posted on 02/23/2007 1:41:28 PM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: Tanniker Smith
HP Lexicon lists Hagrid as Gryffindor.

I can't link to the exact page, but if you click the site link, then click on A-Z Index, then H for Hagrid, then Hagrid at Hogwarts, you'll see where I got the info. :)

237 posted on 02/23/2007 1:55:18 PM PST by andyssister
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To: Tanniker Smith; CholeraJoe

I think Neville is smarter and more capable than he usually seems to be ... except in time of extreme necessity. Then he shows what he can do.

And honestly, I think he has better instincts as a human being than Harry, Hermione, and the Weasley students. I'd sooner trust Neville with something of value than any of them.


238 posted on 02/23/2007 2:00:17 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tax-chick

I think Hermione is extremely trustworthy. She used the Time Turner responsibly and never told anyone about it until it was absolutely necessary.


239 posted on 02/23/2007 2:26:55 PM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: CholeraJoe
Don't think he was Tom Riddle's roommate. Hagrid was expelled in his third year. In Book 2, Riddle was a sixth year when Hagrid got the boot.

Maybe not roommates, but in the same section of the school. Didn't the movie show them going downstairs to Hagrid's room. Slytherin has a dungeon, Gryffindor has a tower.

240 posted on 02/23/2007 2:52:02 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: andyssister

I'll look for it. I haven't reread the earlier books in a long time, and I'm mostly thinking out loud right now.


241 posted on 02/23/2007 2:52:58 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: Tanniker Smith

In the movie, Hagrid didn't have the spider in his dorm room. It must have just been an unused room.


242 posted on 02/23/2007 3:10:19 PM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: Politicalmom

That's a good point. But she's not very truthful, even when there's no reason for lying. At least that was the case early in the series.

Of course, everyone is older than they were.


243 posted on 02/23/2007 4:13:41 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Politicalmom

okay, that'd be where the confusion was.


244 posted on 02/23/2007 5:01:40 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: Politicalmom
She used the Time Turner responsibly and never told anyone about it until it was absolutely necessary.

I wonder if we'll see that again. That's a pretty powerful piece of equipment, if you ask me, and it's pretty daring to had it over to a child, even one that appears as mature and intelligent as Hermione. And everything else seems to show up again (which, actually, I like -- I hate when series writers, for books or TV, create something fantastic and then just drop it and forget about it).

245 posted on 02/23/2007 5:04:40 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Math Teachers Know ALL the Angles!)
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To: Tax-chick

I drive my kids nuts when we watch the movie.

"What would have happened if they told the truth about the troll?"

Then my kids all sigh together....

Heeheehee


246 posted on 02/23/2007 6:44:40 PM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: Politicalmom

That was exactly the example that I thought of! "I was in the bathroom when the troll came in, and my friends came looking for me and rescued me." No harm, no foul.


247 posted on 02/24/2007 4:26:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tanniker Smith
A scar just doesn't seem like a place to put a piece of one's soul. And Voldemort wouldn't have tried to kill Harry in GoF if he knew that there was a piece of his own soul in him.

I'm thinking Voldermort did it by accident when he "killed" his mom and dad and tried to kill Harry. I also think Hermione's cat is either Harry's mom or dad. Probably dad.

248 posted on 02/24/2007 9:05:28 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

That's why I thought Hagrid might have been a Hufflepuff, because their dorms are in the basement near the kitchen.


249 posted on 02/26/2007 5:34:17 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: Tanniker Smith

I thought the Ministry's entire stock of Time Turners were destroyed in the Battle of the Department of Mysteries in Book 5. I seem to recall Neville or someone blew them up.


250 posted on 02/26/2007 5:38:20 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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