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Editorial: Bush's budget proves border fence was a ploy[San Antonio Express]
San Antonio Express ^ | 19 Feb 2007 | San Antonio Express

Posted on 02/20/2007 6:09:53 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman

To build support for a border fence, legislators needed only one item — pandering on an issue that did nothing but provide red meat for their base.

But to build the fence, the lawmakers needed two more items — legislation and funding.

They got the legislation — the president signed the bill authorizing construction of the fence last fall — but if they yell, "Show me the money," they might not like the answer.

President Bush addressed the fence in his budget, but of the $2.9 trillion he proposed, a tiny fraction, $1 billion, would go into the very barrier he authorized.

That would be enough to build 150 miles of the fence by the end of this year and 370 miles by the time the president leaves office in early 2009, the Dallas Morning News reported.

That total would be a lot less than the 700 miles the legislation originally called for, and fence advocates are not amused.

"That was a law that was passed," Bob Dane, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, told the Morning News. "The expectation by the American public is 700 miles of it should be built ... It's the only tangible statement we have of any modicum of border security at this point."

Of course, Congress has the power to fully fund the fence project, but that is unlikely now that Democrats are in the majority.

The lack of a wholehearted funding push by the White House suggests what critics of the fence were pointing out all along — that the legislation was a political ploy, not a serious attempt to crack down on illegal immigration.

Now that the ruse has been exposed, the president and Congress should get serious and eliminate all the money for the fence, as meager as the funding is.

After all, cutting the fence money would represent a small step toward another pledge Bush has made — balancing the budget within five years.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: border; buiditnow; bush; fence; immigration; invasion; invasionusa; wall

1 posted on 02/20/2007 6:09:57 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I'm shocked. Jorge's legacy grows.


2 posted on 02/20/2007 6:13:36 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

So... He lied to us again, what's new?


3 posted on 02/20/2007 6:14:05 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
I knew it was a ploy the first time Bush proposed it.

Bush will never secure that border.
4 posted on 02/20/2007 6:16:48 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Shhh, Iím hunting RINOs.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

6 Predators patrol the border, each carrying a red dye that can mark anything within a 100 yard radius.

Someone tries to cross the border, they get sprayed and the border patrol can pick them up at their leisure.


5 posted on 02/20/2007 6:18:09 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

January 20th, 2009 can not come soon enough.


7 posted on 02/20/2007 6:26:09 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Projects are rarely ever funded fully in one fiscal year. The fence is going to take a few years to build so it will be built in phases across fiscal years. I'll eat crow if there's no money in the FY 08 budget for continuing construction. Until then I'm not going to trash the President.


8 posted on 02/20/2007 6:26:11 PM PST by ChuckHam
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Someone tries to cross the border, they get sprayed and the border patrol can pick them up at their leisure.

To be processed by Border Patrol, detention facility guards, judges, lawyers...

This "virtual fence" crap is a wasteful boondoggle. It's a welfare bill for Federal bureaucrats. Give me concrete and steel.

9 posted on 02/20/2007 6:26:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: DTogo

Be careful what you wish for.....


10 posted on 02/20/2007 6:38:08 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Carry_Okie
The new Berlin Wall doesn't excite me.

Quick ending of all government subsidies to illegals,relentless prosecution of those hiring illegals,quick deportation of all illegals,serious prosecution of all involved in fake document,false voter registration,and all kinds of smuggling would be much better.

If there were American citizens willing to break the laws hiring the illegals(and screw both the illegals and their fellow Americans) the migration would stop.

11 posted on 02/20/2007 6:52:15 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: ChuckHam
The fence is going to take a few years to build...

Bull. Back in 1941, we built the worlds largest building in a swamp in 18 months.

The reality is, we're no more committed to building a wall than we are to rebuilding this

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In the time that politicians have been bouncing this topic around, the wall would have been done by now.

All W had to do was say, "Get 'er done."

12 posted on 02/20/2007 6:53:13 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: hoosierham

I'd implement all of your suggestions, and build the wall. Long term, it will pay for itself. If we can spend a billion a month in the Middle East, we can spend a billion to plant steel and concrete in the ground.


13 posted on 02/20/2007 6:57:01 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

lol Someone really thought the President was serious about the issue?


14 posted on 02/20/2007 7:22:50 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Cobra64

No one has said it better then you just did,thank you.


15 posted on 02/20/2007 7:26:36 PM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: hoosierham
The new Berlin Wall doesn't excite me.

Well good, because that simile is without integrity on your part. This wall isn't to keep people from leaving America and it doesn't have machine gun nests.

Quick ending of all government subsidies to illegals,relentless prosecution of those hiring illegals,quick deportation of all illegals,serious prosecution of all involved in fake document,false voter registration,and all kinds of smuggling would be much better.

You know that won't happen, if only because Supreme Court decisions have mandated emergency medical care and free k-12 schooling, so this is another empty "solution."

If there were American citizens willing to break the laws hiring the illegals(and screw both the illegals and their fellow Americans) the migration would stop.

And if you wanted illegal immigration to stop you wouldn't offer proposals like these.

16 posted on 02/20/2007 7:41:35 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Bush signs a token bill, Mexican government makes a token protest. Now he yanks most of the money and will see to it that the $1 billion authorized doesn't actually get spent.

Regardless of whether you supported or opposed the fence, it was passed. So it should be built. Bush is basically crapping on all the GOP activists who pushed for it and have supported the GOP. Bush has increased the cynicism of voters in whether their vote or advocacy can ever be effective.
17 posted on 02/20/2007 8:22:56 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Txsleuth

Better to have your enemy in front of you, than be deceived by a friend beside you.


18 posted on 02/20/2007 8:32:17 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

I don't know who deceived you...


19 posted on 02/20/2007 8:51:13 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Did you even read this article??


20 posted on 02/20/2007 8:55:58 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Oh, well. It doesn't matter now, does it all you summer Republicans and sunshine conservatives, does it?


21 posted on 02/20/2007 8:58:15 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: DTogo

First of all...Pres. Bush never promised you a fence..and he has never hidden or changed his views about the border.

Second of all...the fence is being financed...just not as fast as some would like...and you can thank the CONGRESS for that, because they appopriate and distribute the funds...

BUT, if YOU think it will be better under a Hillary/Obama/Edwards Administration....YOU are the one that has a problem with deception.


22 posted on 02/20/2007 9:01:31 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
Per post #18, at least with a Dem in the White House they'd openly declare a desire for bigger/intrusive government, open borders & amnesty, surrendering to our enemies, etc.

Right now we have the same thing via smoke and mirrors under the (R) banner.

23 posted on 02/20/2007 9:09:52 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
To build support for a border fence, legislators needed only one item — pandering on an issue that did nothing but provide red meat for their base.

But to build the fence, the lawmakers needed two more items — legislation and funding.

Not much Bush does surprises me any more. I'm very, very disappointed in him!

24 posted on 02/20/2007 9:14:50 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Give me concrete and steel.

And, land mines! ;o)

25 posted on 02/20/2007 9:16:36 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: DTogo

Oh...puh-llllllleeeze.

That is such a childish attitude.

You can't really believe that having Hillary as POTUS would be anything BUT a disaster for this country.

Not only would there NOT be a fence...but the terrorists would have free will to attack us here...because SHE will be messing around with foreign policy that, in case you haven't noticed..has kept us from being attacked again!!!

I bet you love Reagan don't you??


26 posted on 02/20/2007 9:18:59 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Yes, but he too made some mistakes.


27 posted on 02/20/2007 9:20:25 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

And another thing...Pres. Bush has NOT done this behind anyone's back.

He was elected and reelected...by saying the same thing about the borders...he also called himself a compassionate conservative...he talked about reforming education..

He passed the Medicare Part D thing in his FIRST term..was reelected..plus, it has turned out to be much more cost efficient than anyone said it would.

Look at the economy ...it is great!!!

What enemy have we "surrendered" to???

He hasn't done anything with smoke and mirrors...but the CLINTONS not only do that..but by corruption, murder, socialism...you name it...but, YOU WANT IT! pffffffft


28 posted on 02/20/2007 9:23:39 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: DTogo

Reagan made MORE mistakes than Prs. Bush.

Reagan RAISED taxes, he DID give a FULL amnesty program..he didn't build any fence...AND he ran away from our enemy and DID surrender to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Yeah, I would say he made some "mistakes".


29 posted on 02/20/2007 9:25:22 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
You can't really believe that having Hillary as POTUS would be anything BUT a disaster for this country.

Kinda like Bush is, huh?

Not only would there NOT be a fence...but the terrorists would have free will to attack us here...

Kinda like they do now, huh?

How many terrorists do you think have walked across the border with the sole intentions of murdering Americans under Bush's watch?

30 posted on 02/20/2007 9:26:23 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: NRA2BFree; DTogo

You are more delusional than D'Togo.

Have they attacked us???

Didn't the 9/11 terrorists come legally, and BEFORE Pres. Bush became president???

There are more murders in New Orleans than most of Iraq...but they aren't terrorists...why aren't you bitchin about that??

You guys act like Bush made you all kinds of promises and then completely changed...he never changed...you guys just started obsessing about the border..and it has made you crazy....

You guys have caught a terrible case of BDS...and it mostly strikes libs, dems and the MSM...but some others get if if they have immature expectations of Bush.


31 posted on 02/20/2007 9:32:40 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
One FReeper has made the comment in this thread that he'd like to see land mines at the border. I am sure that some portion of Jesus' teachings would condone and justify such an advocacy...let me just look through the NT and see where I'll find that sentiment? But why land mines, why not just use road-side IED like our enemies do on us in Iraq while border zealots lie in wait? Wouldn't that be cheaper than the fench and probably more satisfying, too.
32 posted on 02/21/2007 3:46:07 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: Carry_Okie

"This "virtual fence" crap is a wasteful boondoggle. It's a welfare bill for Federal bureaucrats. Give me concrete and steel."

And Dogs. Big Dogs.


33 posted on 02/21/2007 4:56:50 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: Carry_Okie
Without machine guns people will just climb the fence.

Fences aren't unidirectional.

I must have mistyped as I meant if Americans weren't willing to break existing laws as they do now in hiring illegals there would be no jobs for the illegals.(I even know of a local Homeland Security official whose new home was built with immigrant labor ,most likely illegals.I have personally discovered forged documents while checking foreign workers for industrial sites but those in charge seem not to care.)

34 posted on 02/21/2007 4:52:14 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham
Without machine guns people will just climb the fence.

It hasn't happened in San Diego, but don't let reality deter you.

Fences aren't unidirectional.

I'll remember that when I try to make my escape to Nuevo Laredo.

35 posted on 02/21/2007 10:33:56 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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