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Giuliani Tops Clinton In 2008 Pres. Race, Republican Runs Strong In Red, Blue And Purple States
Quinnipiac Poll ^ | 2/21/07

Posted on 02/21/2007 8:51:17 AM PST by areafiftyone

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani leads Sen. Hillary Clinton 48 - 43 percent among American voters in a 2008 national presidential poll released by Quinnipiac University today. Arizona Sen. John McCain edges Sen. Clinton 46 - 44 percent.

Giuliani tops Clinton 55 - 38 percent in Red states, which voted Republican in the 2004 presidential election, and ties her 46 - 46 percent in Blue states, which went Democratic in 2004. He gets 44 percent to Clinton's 45 percent in Purple states, where the margin in 2004 was less than 7 percent, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. In other possible presidential matchups:

  • Clinton tops former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 49 - 37 percent;
  • Giuliani beats Illinois Sen. Barack Obama 47 - 40 percent;
  • Giuliani tops 2004 vice presidential candidate John Edwards 48 - 40 percent;
  • McCain ties Obama 43 - 43 percent;
  • McCain gets 43 percent to Edward's 42 percent, a tie;

  • Obama tops Romney 49 - 29 percent;
  • Edwards beats Romney 48 - 32 percent.
"After 9/11, Rudolph Giuliani earned the title 'America's Mayor.' After the 2008 election, he could be America's President," said Maurice Carroll, Director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "But we vote in November 2008, not February 2007 - and lots of things can happen. Let's watch the state-by-state breakdown and the Electoral College. Remember 2000?"

"When we look at the Red, Blue and Purple state matchups, we see Giuliani running strong in any color, while Sen. Clinton outpoints Sen. McCain in Blue and Purple states. Sen. Obama and John Edwards are in the middle somewhere and Mitt Romney is nowhere, actually losing to Obama and Edwards in Red states, where voters probably just don't know the former Massachusetts governor."

Clinton gets 38 percent of Democratic primary voters, followed by Obama with 23 percent, former Vice President Al Gore with 11 percent and Edwards with 6 percent.

Giuliani gets 40 percent of Republicans, followed by McCain with 18 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 10 percent and Romney at 7 percent.

American voters give Giuliani a 57 - 21 percent favorability rating. Favorability ratings for other contenders are:
  • 46 - 45 percent for Clinton;

  • 51 - 22 percent for McCain;
  • 44 - 14 percent for Obama, with 40 percent who haven't heard enough to form an opinion;
  • 44 - 27 percent for Edwards;
  • 44 - 47 percent for Gore;
  • 22 - 47 percent for Gingrich;
  • For Romney, 67 percent haven't heard enough to form an opinion.




President Bush's Approval

American voters disapprove 60 - 34 percent of the job President George W. Bush is doing. Voters disapprove 64 - 30 percent of President Bush's handling of the war in Iraq and oppose 62 - 33 percent the President's plan to send 22,000 more troops to Iraq.

From February 13 - 19 Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,536 American voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percent, including 578 Republicans with a margin of error of +/- 4.1 percent, and 684 Democrats with a margin of error of +/- 3.8 percent.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio and nationwide as a public service and for research. For more data - www.quinnipiac.edu and click on Institutes and Centers, or call (203) 582-5201.

1. (If Democrat) If the 2008 Democratic primary for President were being held today, and the candidates were Al Gore, Tom Vilsack, Joe Biden, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Chris Dodd, Wesley Clark and Dennis Kucinich for whom would you vote?

                        DEMOCRATS..........
                        Tot     Men     Wom


Gore 11% 14% 8% Vilsack - - - Biden 1 2 1 Edwards 6 7 6 Richardson 2 1 2 Clinton 38 33 42 Obama 23 25 21 Dodd - - - Clark 2 3 1 Kucinich 1 1 1 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 1 1 1 DK/NA 13 11 14



2. (If Republican) If the 2008 Republican primary for President were being held today, and the candidates were Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Duncan Hunter, Sam Brownback, Tommy Thompson, Jim Gilmore, Chuck Hagel, Mike Huckabee, George Pataki, Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul for whom would you vote?

                        REPUBLICANS........
                        Tot     Men     Wom


Giuliani 40% 42% 38% McCain 18 19 16 Romney 7 6 9 Gingrich 10 12 7 Hunter 2 2 2 Brownback 1 - 1 Thompson 1 1 1 Gilmore - - - Hagel - - - Huckabee 2 2 1 Pataki 1 2 1 Tancredo 1 - 1 Paul 1 1 1 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - 1 - DK/NA 15 11 21



3. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Clinton the Democrat and Rudy Giuliani the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Clinton 43% 4% 80% 35% 35% 50% 26% Giuliani 48 88 14 55 56 42 63 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 - 2 2 1 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 2 2 1 3 3 2 3 DK/NA 5 5 4 6 5 6 6

Red Blue Purple

Clinton 38% 46% 45% Giuliani 55 46 44 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 2 2 4 DK/NA 5 6 5

TREND: If the 2008 election for president were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Rodham Clinton the Democrat and Rudolph Giuliani the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                        Feb 21  Mar 10  Feb 2   Dec 16
                        2007    2005    2005    2004


Clinton 43 43 43 43 Giuliani 48 44 45 45 SMONE ELSE 1 2 2 3 WLDN'T VOTE 2 1 2 2 DK/NA 5 10 7 6



4. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Barack Obama the Democrat and Rudy Giuliani the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Obama 40% 6% 72% 33% 33% 46% 24% Giuliani 47 83 19 50 54 40 57 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 3 2 2 2 3 3 4 DK/NA 10 7 6 13 8 11 12

Red Blue Purple

Obama 39% 37% 43% Giuliani 49 50 40 SMONE ELSE(VOL) - 2 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 2 2 4 DK/NA 9 9 11



5. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were John Edwards the Democrat and Rudy Giuliani the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Edwards 40% 8% 75% 28% 34% 45% 29% Giuliani 48 83 17 57 55 42 59 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 3 2 1 2 2 3 3 DK/NA 8 6 5 11 6 10 8

Red Blue Purple

Edwards 36% 37% 46% Giuliani 51 51 42 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 2 1 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 2 3 3 DK/NA 10 8 6



6. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Clinton the Democrat and John McCain the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Clinton 44% 6% 81% 35% 35% 53% 25% McCain 46 87 14 50 55 38 63 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 - 2 1 1 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 3 1 1 4 3 2 4 DK/NA 6 5 4 9 6 6 6

Red Blue Purple

Clinton 39% 48% 47% McCain 51 43 44 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 - 1 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 3 2 3 DK/NA 7 6 5

TREND: If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Rodham Clinton the Democrat and John McCain the Republican, for whom would you vote?

Feb 21 Dec 6 Mar 10 2007 2005 2005

Clinton 44 40 41 McCain 46 44 43 SMONE ELSE 1 3 2 WLDN'T VOTE 3 3 1 DK/NA 6 11 13



7. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Barack Obama the Democrat and John McCain the Republican, for whom would you vote?

Wht Evan Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom BrnAgain

Obama 43% 9% 73% 39% 36% 49% 27% McCain 43 80 17 42 51 35 56 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 1 1 2 1 3 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 4 2 2 3 3 4 4 DK/NA 10 8 7 14 8 12 11

Red Blue Purple

Obama 39% 44% 46% McCain 46 41 41 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 3 4 3 DK/NA 10 10 9



8. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were John Edwards the Democrat and John McCain the Republican, for whom would you vote?



                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Edwards 42% 8% 76% 32% 35% 48% 29% McCain 43 81 15 50 52 36 55 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 2 1 2 2 3 1 3 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 4 2 1 3 3 4 3 DK/NA 9 8 5 13 6 12 10

Red Blue Purple

Edwards 37% 43% 47% McCain 47 41 41 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 2 2 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 2 5 3 DK/NA 11 9 7



9. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Clinton the Democrat and Mitt Romney the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Clinton 49% 6% 87% 42% 42% 55% 31% Romney 37 79 7 37 42 32 55 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 2 2 - 3 3 1 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 4 3 2 5 5 3 5 DK/NA 9 9 4 13 8 10 8

Red Blue Purple



Clinton 43% 53% 50% Romney 41 34 35 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 2 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 4 3 5 DK/NA 10 8 8

10. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Barack Obama the Democrat and Mitt Romney the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Obama 49% 15% 80% 48% 46% 53% 31% Romney 29 63 6 26 34 24 41 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 2 2 1 4 3 1 3 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 5 4 2 4 6 4 6 DK/NA 15 17 10 18 12 19 19



Red Blue Purple

Obama 45% 53% 50% Romney 32 26 28 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 3 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 4 4 5 DK/NA 17 14 14



11. If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were John Edwards the Democrat and Mitt Romney the Republican, for whom would you vote?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Edwards 48% 11% 84% 40% 43% 53% 38% Romney 32 69 5 32 39 25 43 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 3 3 3 5 5 2 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 5 5 2 6 5 5 5 DK/NA 12 12 6 17 9 15 12

Red Blue Purple

Edwards 44% 49% 52% Romney 35 28 32 SMONE ELSE(VOL) 4 3 2 WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 5 6 4 DK/NA 13 14 10



12. Is your opinion of -- Hillary Clinton favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about her?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 46% 10% 77% 42% 36% 54% 32% Unfavorable 45 87 13 45 54 37 62 Hvn't hrd enough 7 2 8 9 7 7 5 REFUSED 2 1 2 3 3 1 1

Red Blue Purple

Favorable 42% 52% 43% Unfavorable 51 41 43 Hvn't hrd enough 5 5 11 REFUSED 2 2 3



13. Is your opinion of -- Barack Obama favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 44% 25% 60% 45% 40% 48% 31% Unfavorable 14 27 6 12 16 12 23 Hvn't hrd enough 40 47 33 40 42 38 45 REFUSED 1 1 1 2 1 1 1

Red Blue Purple



Favorable 42% 48% 43% Unfavorable 16 11 15 Hvn't hrd enough 41 39 41 REFUSED 2 2 1



14. Is your opinion of -- John McCain favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain



Favorable 51% 67% 36% 60% 61% 42% 53% Unfavorable 22 14 32 16 23 22 24 Hvn't hrd enough 25 17 30 22 14 34 22 REFUSED 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

Red Blue Purple

Favorable 51% 53% 49% Unfavorable 19 22 25 Hvn't hrd enough 27 23 24 REFUSED 3 2 2



15. Is your opinion of -- Rudy Giuliani favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 57% 81% 38% 62% 62% 53% 62% Unfavorable 21 10 34 16 22 20 16 Hvn't hrd enough 21 9 26 22 16 25 21 REFUSED 1 - 2 1 - 1 1

Red Blue Purple

Favorable 57% 60% 54% Unfavorable 19 22 22 Hvn't hrd enough 23 17 23 REFUSED 1 1 1



16. Is your opinion of -- Mitt Romney favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 17% 35% 5% 15% 20% 14% 21% Unfavorable 15 7 20 14 16 13 11 Hvn't hrd enough 67 58 73 68 63 72 68 REFUSED 1 1 1 2 1 1 0

Red Blue Purple

Favorable 18% 14% 19% Unfavorable 12 16 15 Hvn't hrd enough 69 68 65 REFUSED 1 2 1





17. Is your opinion of -- John Edwards favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 44% 25% 66% 38% 44% 44% 36% Unfavorable 27 49 9 31 33 22 33 Hvn't hrd enough 26 25 24 30 20 32 31 REFUSED 2 2 1 2 2 2 1



Red Blue Purple

Favorable 39% 45% 49% Unfavorable 27 28 27 Hvn't hrd enough 30 25 23 REFUSED 3 1 1



18. Is your opinion of -- Al Gore favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 44% 12% 74% 40% 40% 48% 29% Unfavorable 47 81 17 52 53 41 64 Hvn't hrd enough 7 5 7 7 5 10 6 REFUSED 2 1 1 2 2 1 1

Red Blue Purple

Favorable 44% 48% 40% Unfavorable 49 43 48 Hvn't hrd enough 7 7 8 REFUSED - 2 3



19. Is your opinion of -- Newt Gingrich favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 22% 45% 7% 18% 27% 18% 32% Unfavorable 47 26 61 54 48 46 35 Hvn't hrd enough 30 27 31 27 24 34 32 REFUSED 2 2 1 1 1 2 1

Red Blue Purple

Favorable 28% 19% 19% Unfavorable 39 51 51 Hvn't hrd enough 32 28 29 REFUSED 2 2 1



20. Is your opinion of -- Harry Reid favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Favorable 7% 3% 12% 5% 9% 6% 5% Unfavorable 17 28 11 15 24 10 20 Hvn't hrd enough 75 69 77 77 66 83 74 REFUSED 1 1 1 3 1 1 1

Red Blue Purple



Favorable 5% 9% 7% Unfavorable 16 14 21 Hvn't hrd enough 77 76 71 REFUSED 2 1 1



21. Is your opinion of -- Nancy Pelosi favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about her?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain



Favorable 25% 7% 41% 25% 23% 26% 13% Unfavorable 31 62 10 28 38 24 42 Hvn't hrd enough 43 30 49 45 37 49 44 REFUSED 1 1 1 2 2 1 1

Red Blue Purple

Favorable 21% 31% 23% Unfavorable 32 30 31 Hvn't hrd enough 47 37 45 REFUSED 1 2 2



22. Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as President?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Approve 34% 72% 9% 32% 38% 31% 52% Disapprove 60 20 87 63 57 62 43 DK/NA 6 7 4 5 5 7 5

Red Blue Purple

Approve 39% 32% 32% Disapprove 53 64 63 DK/NA 7 4 6

TREND: Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as President?

                                                                Highest Lowest
                                                                Approve Approve
                        Feb 21  Nov 22  Aug 29  Jun 1   Mar 2   Dec 11  Feb 21
                        2007    2006    2006    2006    2006    2001    2007


Approve 34 35 39 35 36 83 34 Disapprove 60 58 53 58 58 11 60 DK/NA 6 7 8 7 6 6 6



27. Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation with Iraq?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Approve 30% 67% 7% 24% 33% 27% 50% Disapprove 64 25 89 71 62 66 45 DK/NA 6 7 3 5 5 6 5

Red Blue Purple

Approve 34% 27% 29% Disapprove 59 69 64 DK/NA 6 4 6

TREND: Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation with Iraq?

                                                                Highest Lowest
                                                                Approve Approve
                        Feb 21  Nov 22  Jun 1   Mar 2   Dec 6   Jul 24  Feb 21
                        2007    2006    2006    2006    2005    2003    2007


Approve 30 30 35 36 36 52 30 Disapprove 64 66 61 60 60 43 64 DK/NA 6 4 4 4 3 5 6



28. Do you think going to war with Iraq was the right thing for the United States to do or the wrong thing?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Right thing 37% 72% 12% 37% 42% 33% 52% Wrong thing 56 21 83 57 52 60 39 DK/NA 7 7 5 5 7 7 9

Red Blue Purple

Right thing 45% 31% 35% Wrong thing 48 64 57 DK/NA 7 5 9

TREND: Do you think going to war with Iraq was the right thing for the United States to do or the wrong thing?

                        Feb 21  Nov 22  Jun 1   Mar 2   Dec 6   Mar 10  Feb 2
                        2007    2006    2006    2006    2005    2005    2005 


Right 37 40 39 40 41 42 44 Wrong 56 56 56 56 54 51 50 DK/NA 7 4 5 4 5 6 6



29. Do you support or oppose Bush's plan to send approximately 22,000 additional U.S. military forces to Iraq?

                                                                        Wht Evan
                        Tot     Rep     Dem     Ind     Men     Wom     BrnAgain


Support 33% 68% 10% 30% 42% 25% 48% Oppose 62 27 88 63 54 70 45 DK/NA 5 5 2 6 4 6 7

Red Blue Purple

Support 37% 31% 30% Oppose 58 66 64 DK/NA 5 3 6



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KEYWORDS: misterpresident; rudy; rudyderservescancer
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1 posted on 02/21/2007 8:51:21 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

(((((((PING)))))


2 posted on 02/21/2007 8:52:15 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone
Rudy is our next President. I'm going to drop this little prediction in from time to time all the way to November of next year.
3 posted on 02/21/2007 8:52:49 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Are you prepared to duck for incoming? LOL! ;-)


4 posted on 02/21/2007 8:53:21 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I agree.


5 posted on 02/21/2007 8:53:35 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: areafiftyone; JulieRNR21; Peach; AmericaUnited; Senator Goldwater; Lancey Howard; ContraryMary; ...

Anyone who rules out supporting Giuliani is being short-sighted.


6 posted on 02/21/2007 8:53:54 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I think Romney is however Rudy's ability to draw blue is going to offset the whiners in the base.


7 posted on 02/21/2007 8:54:06 AM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: areafiftyone

"Republican Runs Strong In Red, Blue And Purple States."



Where is the "Republican"?


8 posted on 02/21/2007 8:54:31 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Pssst! by the way I agree with you! :-)


9 posted on 02/21/2007 8:55:03 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Rudy is our next President.

If I had to bet on it, I'd agree.

10 posted on 02/21/2007 8:55:18 AM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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…most of Clintons Policies are very similar to most of mine... Rudy Giuliani 1996

On AbortionI’ve said that I’ll uphold a woman’s right to choice, that I will fund abortions so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right others can exercise… Rudy Giuliani 1989.

On Gun Control This is an industry that is profiting from the suffering of innocent people. What’s worse, its profits rest on a number of illegal and immoral practices. This lawsuit is meant to end the free pass that the gun industry has so long enjoyed... Rudy Giuliani 2000 after filing suit against gun makers and distributors.

On Gun Control We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons, and if in fact you do need a handgun you should be subjected to at least the same restrictions-and really stronger ones-that exist for driving an automobile... Rudy Giuliani 1997

New York City Sues Gun Industry

By Mayor Rudy Giuliani

On June 20th, I was pleased to announce that the City of New York filed a lawsuit against two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors. This is an industry which profits from the suffering of innocent people. The lawsuit is intended to end the free pass that the gun industry has enjoyed for a very long time, which has resulted in too many avoidable deaths. The suit alleges a number of illegal practices on the part of the gun manufacturers, including:

* Deliberately manufacturing many more firearms than can be bought for legitimate purposes such as hunting and law enforcement, and knowingly targeting these excess guns to criminals, youths and other persons unqualified to buy firearms;

* Deliberately undermining New York City's gun control laws by flooding other markets which have less stringent gun laws with firearms that the manufacturers know are destined to be illegally resold in New York City;

* Ignoring the illegal practices of gun distributors, many of whom openly engage in the above practices;

* Refusing to manufacture safer guns, with features such as trigger locks and "personalization" measures that allow only authorized persons to fire the weapon.

"...you're a MUTT, Rudy."

11 posted on 02/21/2007 8:55:47 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: areafiftyone

Hopefully the real issue is Hilary's weakness as a candidate.


12 posted on 02/21/2007 8:56:27 AM PST by Williams
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I dropped it last year. He is the only one, imo, that can beat a democratic ticket with the way the media controls everything. It will be hard for the media to do to him what they have done to the current administration without tipping their hand to the sheeple.


13 posted on 02/21/2007 8:56:44 AM PST by beansox
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To: areafiftyone
The Clintoon war machine will destroy him, and they have plenty of time, the macaca syndrome.
14 posted on 02/21/2007 8:56:59 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Vaquero
- Rudy tossed Arafat out of a city sponsored celebrations saying, "I would rather not have someone who has been implicated in the murders of Americans there, if I have the discretion not to have him there”.
Frontpage Magazine

- Rudy did the same to Fidel Castro at a Dinner.
Answers.com Personalities – Rudy Giuliani

- When a Saudi prince donated millions to 9/11 relief efforts and later suggested that United States policy in the Middle East may have been partially responsible for the attacks, Rudy returned the money.
CNN

- Rudy refused to meet with racial arsonist Al Sharpton.
Right Nation

- Rudy as mayor was strong on law and order. Rudy said that "government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering". And Rudy backed this all up by going after both quality-of-life crimes and serious crimes. Total crime went down by some 64 percent during the Giuliani years, and murder went down 67 percent. Auto thefts went down on average about 80,000 per year.
Bureau of Justice Statistics – U.S. Department of Justice

- Rudy supported the police when the police had to enter and deal with Muslims at a mosque.
Village Voice

- Rudy closed down many porn shops across the city and specifically shutdown porn shops in residential neighborhoods.
Reference.com – Rudy Giuliani
Bureau of Justice Statistics – U.S. Department of Justice

- Rudy went after both low level and high level drug dealers for the first time in the cities history.
City Journal
Bureau of Justice Statistics – U.S. Department of Justice

- Rudy had zero tolerance for quality of life crimes such as squeegee extortionists, graffiti vandals, panhandling and public urination.
City Journal

- Rudy launched a welfare revolution, removing illegal recipients, cutting the rolls by 20% the first year alone and dropping the welfare rolls by 600,000 over the course of his plan.
NY POST
MAYOR GIULIANI DELIVERS EIGHTH AND FINAL "STATE OF THE CITY" ADDRESS

- Rudy launched a work requirement program for the remaining welfare recipients. the NY Times called it slavery.
MAYOR GIULIANI DELIVERS EIGHTH AND FINAL "STATE OF THE CITY" ADDRESS
NY Times

- Rudy constantly spoke out against illegitimacy and fatherless families. One of many things that Rudy said on the subject was the following: " If you wanted a social program that would really save these kids, . I guess the social program would be called fatherhood.
" Rudy Giuliani “State of the City” address
MAYOR GIULIANI DELIVERS EIGHTH AND FINAL "STATE OF THE CITY" ADDRESS

- Rudy objected to affirmative action. Rudy ended the cities set-aside program for minority contractors.
CA Political News

- Rudy rejected the idea of lowering the job requirement standards for minorities and woman. - Rudy said. "it was unfair to expect middle-class kids to work their way through college by holding down jobs and going to classes while exempting students on welfare from working.
" CA Political News

- Rudy reformed the public school system and forced out liberal chancellors who wouldn't install his reforms.
A Plan to Reform our Public Schools-and the Commitment to Go Further

- Rudy tried to privatize 5 of the cities worst public schools.
Heartland
A Plan to Reform our Public Schools-and the Commitment to Go Further

- Rudy was for school vouchers Rudy said, "The whole notion of choice is really about more freedom for people, rather than being subjugated by a government system that says you have no choice about the education of your child,".
A Plan to Reform our Public Schools-and the Commitment to Go Further

- Rudy fought against public money for an art display that defiled Christ and he fought against other obscene so-called works of art.
Daily Nebraskan

- Rudy played hardball with city unions winning concessions from city workers that other mayors had failed to do.
NY Times
Union Politicking in the N.Y.C. Elections

- Rudy strong armed state leaders to merge the cities Housing Police and Transit Police into the NYPD saving the city hundreds of millions. Rudy did this by threatening to fire every housing and transit officer and rehire each as a city cop if legislative leaders did not go along.
NY Times

- Rudy did the same with the city’s garbageman, many of whom worked only half days because the department was so overstaffed with union jobs. Rudy won $300 million in savings from them by threatening to contract out trash collection to private companies.
City Journal

- Rudy cut or killed 23 levies and taxes, saving taxpayers $9.8 billion during his terms.
Manhattan Institute
GoVote.com

- Rudy cut NYC's top income-tax rate by 20.6%.
A Budget for a Strong and Stable Economic Future
GoVote.com

- Local NYC taxes on a family of four dropped 23.7% during Rudy's term.
Manhattan Institute
GoVote.com

- Rudy cut the commercial-rent tax.
Columbia.edu

- Rudy cut sales taxes, including taxes on clothing.
A Budget for a Strong and Stable Economic Future
GoVote.com

- Rudy cut the marriage penalty on taxpaying couples.
GoVote.com

- Rudy cut taxes on commercial rents everywhere outside of Manhattan’s major business districts, and various taxes on small businesses and self-employed New Yorkers.
MAYOR GIULIANI DELIVERS EIGHTH AND FINAL "STATE OF THE CITY" ADDRESS

- Rudy's expenditure growth averaged 2.9% annually, while local inflation between January 1994 and December 2001 averaged 3.6%.
Urban Futures

- Rudy privatized municipal assets.
Reason Public Policy Institute

- Rudy sold WNYC radio for $20 million, WNYC-TV for $207 million, and NYC's share of the U.N. Plaza Hotel for $85 million.
Scripps Howard News Service

- Rudy divested the City from the New York Coliseum adding $345 million to city coffers.
SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS BY Archives of RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI

- Rudy let the private Central Park Conservancy manage Central Park.
ABC News

- Rudy cut NYC's hotel tax from 6% to 5%. Consequently, hotel tax revenues increased from $135 million in Fiscal Year 1995 to $239 million in FY 2001.
The Entrepreneurial City Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani The Manhattan Institute

- When asked if Rudy would raise taxes after 9/11 Rudy said that would be "a dumb, stupid, idiotic, and moronic thing to do.
" American Spectator

- A quote from Rudy on his economic philosophy: “City government should not and cannot create jobs through government planning. The best it can do, and what it has a responsibility to do, is to deal with its own finances first, to create a solid budgetary foundation that allows businesses to move the economy forward on the strength of their energy and ideas. After all, businesses are and have always been the backbone of New York City.
City Journal

- Construction permits increased by more than 50% in the city per year during Rudy's terms.
MAYOR GIULIANI DELIVERS EIGHTH AND FINAL "STATE OF THE CITY" ADDRESS

- Tourism increased 50% in the city per year during Rudy's terms.
NYC.GOV

- City jobs increased by 430,000 to an all time high of 3.72 million during Rudy's terms.
City Journal

- City personal income increased 50% during Rudy's terms.
CapitalCA News

- The percentage income that city residence paid in taxes declined from 8.8 to 7.3 percent during Rudy's terms.
City Journal

- Unemployment in the city went form 10.3% to 5.1% during Rudy's terms.
The Claremont Institute

- Rudy was an outstanding leader during the 9/11 crisis.
Time Magazine

- Rudy has been a strong supporting in our WOT including supporting the mission in Iraq.
Counsel on Foreign Relations

- Rudy was chosen by Ronald Reagan in 1981 as an Associate Attorney General placing him in the third highest position in the Reagan's DOJ.
Wikipedia

- In 1983, Rudy was appointed by Reagan to be U.S. Attorney for the SD of NY. In that position, Rudy amassed 4,152 convictions including the heads of NY's so-called "Five Families". Rudy also prosecuted terrorists and illegal immigrants.
Wikipedia

15 posted on 02/21/2007 8:58:35 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

I want a Constitutional amendment:

No Candidate for any Federal elected office may declare his or her intentions for election to said office until one year (365 days) prior to the date of the election to be held for said office. Any person declaring his or her intentions for said office is prohibited from running for said office until the following election.

Or something like like. Geesh, this is ridiculous. The primaries are still a year out and the general is 29 months out.


16 posted on 02/21/2007 8:59:43 AM PST by Tarnsman
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To: SoCal Pubbie
I concur. If its the Hildabeast who is elected, I'm outta here! Like become a citizen of Costa Rica . . .


17 posted on 02/21/2007 9:01:09 AM PST by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God; Liberals think they ARE God " -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Anyone who rules out supporting Giuliani is being short-sighted.

Rudy will make a good leader, he will take very seriously the nation's defense and security, and he will appoint good judges. The rest is fluff, mostly in the hands of Congress anyway. The purist tantrum-throwers will eventually calm down and be gratified that there is not a rat in the White House on January 20th, 2009. THAT would be a disaster.

18 posted on 02/21/2007 9:01:41 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: areafiftyone

Purple states? Do we have Smurfs in office now? :)


19 posted on 02/21/2007 9:02:58 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Tarnsman

I'd have to agree. This is insane.

Everyone is saying "only rudy can win" when the only thing getting him support is his personality and public image. There's no substance, no "there" there. The people who are going to vote in the primaries don't know the real rudy yet. Gun grabbing, pro-illegal immigration, pro roe v wade, pro CFR. All they know is the 'buzz'. Try to extrapolate any polls at this point to what would happen in an election is ridiculous. Hell, polls usually move around at least once or twice during the election itself!


20 posted on 02/21/2007 9:03:51 AM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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