Posted on 02/21/2007 12:06:36 PM PST by Reagan Man
One thing I noticed about the rudy supporters - they sure as hell can't answer a direct question.
But they sure are quick to resort to the "if you don't support rudy, the terrorists will kill you" line.
Rudy supporters are just like the candidate they love. There's no "there" there.
Whatever you say, Mr. Olbermann. So what exactly attracts you to this forum?
Why don't you start praying that God will raise up a godly real conservative instead of just giving up??
But the Republicans have only themselves to blame, of course...
So I'd be better off voting Trotsky over Stalin? Based on the man's history, the boat isn't headed anywhere near my destination, and I'm not going to shot a hole in it - I'm just going to stop rowing.
The future of the Republican Party is decided by its presidential nomination. If the 'Pubbies choose Rudy, they are not the party for conservatives any more, they're the DPL: Democrat Party Lite. Their entire platform will be "Look - we're not QUITE as bad the Democrats!"
In the real world, there are no true Godly conservatives. Not anymore. Today there are only CFR members and non-CFR members.
I have not declared support for Rudy or anyone else. I am merely arguing that handing our national fate over to Moveon.org until Mr. Perfect shows up is idiotic.
What amazes me is how many FReepers have rolled over on their backs for Rudy, when we have so much time left for another candidate to emerge. And what the hell is so bad about Duncan Hunter??
You're replying to the wrong person.
Rudy is a life long liberal and far outside the conservative mainstream. You're labeling him a moderate. I don't see much anything moderate about Giuliani's politics. Especially his social liberalism. I'm also not impressed with his double-talk in recent weeks, in a futile attempt to appear like some federalist. Not gonna work.
>>>>Again, politics is the art of the possible.
Bismarck had his opinions and I have mine. Whatever you may label it, I prefer conservative politics to liberal politics.
What "whims" are your referring to, specifically? That whim we have about protecting the second amendment? Or are you talking about that whim we have about not murdering innocent unborn children? Please specify, as we are such a whimsical bunch that I am not sure which one of them you are objecting to.
"what the hell is so bad about Duncan Hunter??"
Let me try to explain, it's a little difficult to follow:
Problem 1: Conservatism
1. Duncan hunter is too conservative so he can't win. You need someone who can appeal to the 'moderates'.
(By this they mean "more liberal", but they never admit it)
2. Rudy can appeal to moderates, but he's actually a conservative, despite his record.
So Duncan hunter can't win because he's a conservative, but rudy can. Because he's more moderate. But still a conservative.
Problem 2: Elected office
1. Duncan hunter can't win because his highest held office is a lowly congressman.
2. Even though rudy's highest held elected office was mayor, 5 years ago, he can win. Even though no one has ever gone from being mayor (or ex mayor) as highest office to the presidency.
I know that he turned NYC around and then watched him in the aftermath of 9-11.
These lying eyes will have no trouble voting for him.
"I have not declared support for Rudy or anyone else. "
Well you're certainly echoing the claims of the Frightened Child Demographic quite well!
"I am merely arguing that handing our national fate over to Moveon.org until Mr. Perfect shows up is idiotic."
About as idiotic as saying only a liberal republican can beat a liberal democrat?
Or is it as idiotic as saying that if you don't want to support a liberal, no matter the party, then terrorists are going to kill everybody?
I'm trying to think what that is, but the word "logic" doesn't come into play at all.
You go too far and it shows you are unbalanced and irrational.
The choice between Hillary and Giuliani is not even close to being as bad as a choice between Leon Trotsky and Joe Stalin.
Rudy Giuliani is clearly not much of a Conservative, but he is not a Communist in disguise like Hillary Clinton.
Rudy Giuliani will throw Conservatives some good bones. If you allow the Democrats to take the White House when they also control the Congress, Conservatives will get nothing which will continue for years.
There is no one like Ronald Reagan coming. Until a real Conservative with some national appeal comes along, I am not going to join in the trashing of a Rudy Giuliani.
It is election day, 2008. On the ballot in front of you for President are two names, Guiliani and Clinton (her). Which one do you choose? Repeat the experiment with Obama, and Edwards. Now you understand this article.
Congressman Billybob
It is election day, 2008. On the ballot in front of you for President are two names, Guiliani and Clinton (her). Which one do you choose? Repeat the experiment with Obama, and Edwards. Now you understand this article.
Congressman Billybob
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