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Is Giuliani Honestly Conservative/Pro-Life Enough? (Opinion)
Opinion ^ | 2/21/07 | Dangus

Posted on 02/21/2007 1:59:42 PM PST by dangus

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1 posted on 02/21/2007 1:59:44 PM PST by dangus
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This is quite an . . . analysis . . . in fact, it sounds very much like something that might have been penned by Harriet Miers herself.


3 posted on 02/21/2007 2:03:04 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: dangus

Rudy has been doing more tap dancing then Michael Flatley. His history shows liberalism thru and thru. Sean "I need a bib" Hannity gave him a softball on the 2nd amendment, and he whiffed badly, yammering on how "hunter's rights" would be protected.

No thanks, but nice try.


4 posted on 02/21/2007 2:03:38 PM PST by pissant
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To: dangus

NO.


5 posted on 02/21/2007 2:03:40 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: dangus

The Gallup Organization polled registered Republicans with this question: "If it was proven without a doubt that Rudy Guiliani was not Hillary Clinton, would you vote for him?" Results: 99.2% said yes.


6 posted on 02/21/2007 2:05:37 PM PST by SoCalRight
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It's inconceivable that he would nominate a Harriet Meirs or a David Souter.

What are you smoking? Of course Giuliani would. He says he's a strict constitutionalist, but he also says that a woman has a right to an abortion. Therefore, he would not knowingly nominate anyone who would overturn this so-called right.

7 posted on 02/21/2007 2:09:00 PM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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let's see:

Pro roe v wade, including government funding of abortions
Anti - gun, proposed "assault weapons" ban and handgun licensing on a federal level
Pro campaign Finance Reform
Pro illegal immigrant (fought to keep NY a sanctuary city against the feds)

Forget "is he conservative enough". The question is "Is he conservative at all"??


8 posted on 02/21/2007 2:15:01 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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9 posted on 02/21/2007 2:15:12 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY (HUNTER: "I don't have to hire a consultant to develop a conservative image, I am a conservative.")
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To: flashbunny

see tagline......


10 posted on 02/21/2007 2:15:57 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY (HUNTER: "I don't have to hire a consultant to develop a conservative image, I am a conservative.")
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To: flashbunny

Nice one! You can add:

Partial Birth Abortion
Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Amnesty/Safe havens for illegal border invaders
Homosexual Civil Unions and/or marriage
Personal character issues


11 posted on 02/21/2007 2:19:21 PM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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Dodged the Draft by getting a deferment as a Judge's Clerk.


12 posted on 02/21/2007 2:20:35 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Link or is this a vanity?


14 posted on 02/21/2007 2:21:59 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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To: dangus

I considered piling on and making some snarky comment, but what's the point.

We aren't going to waver and neither are they.

Stalemate.


15 posted on 02/21/2007 2:23:26 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: SoCalRight

how about the same question, but replacing "hillary clinton" with "a space alien"?


16 posted on 02/21/2007 2:23:30 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: Vandervilder

This is much larger than just abortion. See my earlier post.


17 posted on 02/21/2007 2:24:46 PM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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Giuliani has no conservatism in him at all.

He's liberal through and through.

18 posted on 02/21/2007 2:29:47 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Shhh, I’m hunting RINOs.)
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19 posted on 02/21/2007 2:38:09 PM PST by Faustian Justice2 (...even if it takes saving one baby at a time.)
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To: pissant

For those that missed the implied thesis, a represent of the people may decide differently on issues if he is representing different people. For all those who would elect a John McCain or a Chuck Hagel, or a Newt Gingrich: how do you know your candidate would be pro-life if they weren't elected by such an adamantly pro-life electorate?

On the gun issue: From strictly a legislative standpoint, there is a tension between a citizen's right to protect themselves, and that citizen's right to be kept free from crime by the government. In rural areas, self-protection is sometimes the only feasible protection. In New York City, most people are far more concerned that someone ELSE will have a gun, and a shoot-out means danger to others. Giuliani believed that law and order was better maintained if cops alone had guns.

I'm not endorsing that viewpoint, because I have constitutional issues with it. But you'd be damned hard pressed to find anyone from the Republican Party who believed that second-amendment rights trumped safety. If the right to bear arms really does mean the right to form independent militias capable of resisting government intrusion (as I actually believe the founding fathers meant), than that right includes the right to possess weapons of mass destruction.

Don't kid yourself: Rudy Giuiani's position on the constitutionality of gun control is identical to that of George W. Bush, John McCain, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee, and almost certainly Duncan Hunter or anyone else (with the possible exception of Ron Paul).


20 posted on 02/21/2007 2:38:45 PM PST by dangus
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