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John Murtha: Caving In to Arabs Since 1980 (Ann Coulter)
Human Events ^ | February 21, 2007 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 02/21/2007 3:32:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 02/21/2007 3:32:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pictures please! ^^


2 posted on 02/21/2007 3:32:52 PM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101

You want more pictures of Murtha ?!?!

;)


3 posted on 02/21/2007 3:34:47 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: SFC Chromey

Well, I AM on a diet ...


4 posted on 02/21/2007 3:36:21 PM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101

5 posted on 02/21/2007 3:37:51 PM PST by andyandval
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To: jellybean
Ping Ping Ping

It seems I am always first to ping you to these.

Eerie I say.....

Cheers,

knewshound

http://www.knewshound.blogspot.com/
6 posted on 02/21/2007 3:38:51 PM PST by knews_hound (Sarcastically blogging since 2004.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

"Surrender Democrats"


should become as ubiquitous expression as French Surrender Monkeys


7 posted on 02/21/2007 3:39:13 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting how all these low-lifes get themselves elected to Congress. Any decent people there?


8 posted on 02/21/2007 3:40:34 PM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great article as usual by Ann.


9 posted on 02/21/2007 3:42:00 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: longtermmemmory

I like "Defeatocrats", what do you think??


10 posted on 02/21/2007 3:42:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why aren't republican congressmen calling this guy a treasonous traitor and criminal every time he opens his mouth in congress?


11 posted on 02/21/2007 3:43:30 PM PST by generalhammond (Go Ralph Go!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Someone should make that a bumper sticker. It will be a big hit!


12 posted on 02/21/2007 3:43:54 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: andyandval

Ah, yes, our future Vice President!


13 posted on 02/21/2007 3:46:52 PM PST by Redbob
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To: generalhammond

And now this worthless lying fat b@stard holds in his filthy hands the fate of our brave soldiers in Iraq!

G-D, is there no justice!!!?

):^(


14 posted on 02/21/2007 3:47:57 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
". . .'Jesus Christ, ah, this happened,' then he (someone else), in order to get immunity so he doesn't go to jail, he starts talking and fingering people and then the son of a bitch all falls apart."

This is exactly what Murtha did. When caught he fell apart and testified against two other defendants to avoid prosecution. The lead investigator in the case was so upset by the deal that Murtha got he resigned in protest. I suppose any district that keeps electing this piece of human garbage deserves him.
15 posted on 02/21/2007 3:49:30 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump.


16 posted on 02/21/2007 3:50:06 PM PST by cookcounty (ShaZam! Lee Hamilton now employed by Sandy Berger! stonebridge-international.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you, Ann. I had hoped someone would slap the silliness out of John Murtha -- and I was sure just "wishing" wouldn't make it so. Silly, me. Let's go on to Nancy Pelosi and another smack-down there. Ah, it is a good day, after all.


17 posted on 02/21/2007 3:50:53 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wasn't there a more complete tape of this that came out in September? Where is it?????


18 posted on 02/21/2007 3:51:51 PM PST by cookcounty (ShaZam! Lee Hamilton now employed by Sandy Berger! stonebridge-international.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

19 posted on 02/21/2007 3:53:19 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: elcid1970

You can thank the voters in his district for that.

They had a choice and choose him.

Any further comment would probably get me banned or suspended so I will let it go at that.


20 posted on 02/21/2007 3:53:38 PM PST by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; bmwcyle; desherwood7; FairOpinion; Fedora; freema; Just A Nobody; RedRover; ...
Murtha Watch ping.

Ann Coulter nails murtha but good!

Murtha accuses Marines of killing "innocent civilians in cold blood" during an ongoing investigation. Semper Fi, Mr. Dirty Congressman.

21 posted on 02/21/2007 3:54:55 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rush Limbaugh President, and Annie Coulter, VP, that would be a great combination!


22 posted on 02/21/2007 3:56:41 PM PST by agincourt1415 (The Sum of all Fears: Democrats running the war or trying to run away from the war on terror.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So this is not a new posture assumed by John Murtha. It turns out he was an unindicted co-conspirator in the ABSCAM sting scandals that rocked the House and Senate in 1980 (Carter years, remember?), but he escaped prosecution by ratting out some of his buddies.

Loyalty. Another big character trait of John Murtha.

Maybe this is what Nancy Pelosi saw in the man.

That, and he is about two eye-blinks away from being a drooling idiot.


23 posted on 02/21/2007 3:58:25 PM PST by alloysteel
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To: Redbob

I'd rather see her as Secretary of State. I'm a little tired of all this 'diplomacy' crap.


24 posted on 02/21/2007 3:59:58 PM PST by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
I got a bumpersticker for you:

Barak HUSSEIN Obama!

25 posted on 02/21/2007 4:03:29 PM PST by Redbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For the record, Ann Coulter, a Marine is not an "ex-Marine" unless he or she receives a Dishonorable Discharge. One is a "Former Marine" and/or a "Marine."

Otherwise, AC is spot on!
Murtha is a disgrace to the Corps and the Congress.

And as I have said many times, I only wish the Marine Corps would activate Murtha just so they could court martial him.

One thing for sure, Murtha won't be invited to the Marine Corps Birthday Ball!



Semper Fi,
Kelly


26 posted on 02/21/2007 4:11:22 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would like to hear that "Old Where's Mine" came too one day and had to ask himself the following questions:
1)Where hell am I?
2)Why do my head and face hurt so much?
3)Where is my underwear?
27 posted on 02/21/2007 4:14:50 PM PST by Rumplemeyer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I called my then congressman's (Curt Weldon) office to voice my displeasure with Weldon for standing up for murtha a while ago in the house. Weldon's secretary gave me a hard time about it. I sure miss having Bob Walker as my representative.
28 posted on 02/21/2007 4:15:48 PM PST by Post5203 (Murtha and Kerry: Pull out before the job is done...AKA Premature Evacuation)
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To: kellynla
...a Marine is not an "ex-Marine" unless he or she receives a Dishonorable Discharge...

Murtha's got my vote for Dishonorable Discharge unless there is an even lower category for this waste of skin.

29 posted on 02/21/2007 4:20:09 PM PST by Nateman (Socialism , the real global menace threatening mankind!)
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To: popdonnelly

Interesting how all these low-lifes get themselves elected to Congress. Any decent people there?

I think there must be rampant fraud going on at the ballot box- how else could all these kooks keep getting elected?


30 posted on 02/21/2007 4:21:20 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: popdonnelly

"Any decent people there?"

In Congress?? You're kidding, right? Certainly not amongst the 'Rats.


31 posted on 02/21/2007 4:26:27 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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Rumored ex-Marine John Murtha, Democrat congressman from Pennsylvania, has become the darling of the cut-and-run crowd for trying to place absurd restrictions on our troops, amounting to withdrawal from Iraq. Were Arab sheiks whispering into his ear?

In case you missed the video on "I Love the '80s," Rep. Murtha was caught on tape negotiating bribes with Arab sheiks during the FBI's Abscam investigation in 1980. The Abscam investigation was conducted by Jimmy Carter's Justice Department, not right-wing Republicans.

On tape, Murtha told the undercover FBI agent: "When I make a f***in' deal I want to make sure that I know exactly what I'm doing and ... what I'm sayin' is, a few investments in my district ..."

It is a profound and shocking fact that Murtha even showed up at this meeting, knowing he was going to be negotiating bribe money with Arabs.

Murtha added that he wanted the investment in his district to look like it was done "legitimately ... when I say legitimately, I'm talking about so these bastards up here can't say to me ... 'Jesus Christ, ah, this happened,' then he (someone else), in order to get immunity so he doesn't go to jail, he starts talking and fingering people and then the son of a bitch all falls apart."

For those of you just joining us, no, this isn't a scene from "The Sopranos." It's an actual conversation between a U.S. congressman and an FBI agent posing as an Arab sheik offering a bribe.

Murtha further said that although he was not prepared to accept cash at that time, "after we've done some business, then I might change my mind." You know, just what you or I or any American might say when offered a cash bribe by an Arab.

The ever-helpful media exposed the Abscam investigation before it could be completed, and consequently we were deprived of the possibility of seeing Murtha on tape stuffing cash in his trousers like the other Democratic congressmen (and one "moderate" Republican) convicted in the Abscam investigation. Or, as Al Gore used to call such a fund-raising procedure, "community outreach."

But Murtha was willing to trade favors in return for investment in his district – and suggested he might take cash down the line. In other words, Murtha wasn't calling for an immediate surrender of his scruples and principles, but rather a phased withdrawal of them.

In fact, according to a co-conspirator's affidavit, it didn't take long for Murtha to warm to the idea of a cash bribe.

About a month after the taped meeting with Murtha, the co-conspirator, lawyer Howard L. Criden, wrote in his affidavit: "Yesterday, Feb. 1, (Democrat Congressman Frank 'Topper') Thompson called and told me that Murtha was ready to go," adding that Murtha had indicated "during January that he was not ready to do business but would be willing to do so in the future."

Criden said: "Congressman Murtha of Pennsylvania would be willing to enter into an agreement similar to that of the other congressmen" – i.e., taking $50,000 cash from the sheiks for legislative favors.

Criden's affidavit went unsigned, according to his lawyer, Richard Ben-Veniste, solely because of the resulting publicity when the press blew the investigation, leading Criden to believe the prosecutors had broken the deal.

Criden was later convicted and sentenced to six years in prison, along with seven members of Congress (six of them Democrats). Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator. (Would that Patrick Fitzgerald were prosecuting the case!)

As an attorney, let me give you the technical legal description of what occurred: John Murtha was as guilty as O.J. Simpson.

Now Murtha issues high moral pronouncements on the war and denounces our troops, calling the U.S. military "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth." Gee, too bad there aren't any Arab sheiks offering them cash bribes. Sounds like they could really use the money.

Murtha accuses Marines of killing "innocent civilians in cold blood" during an ongoing investigation. Semper Fi, Mr. Dirty Congressman.

Instead of toppling brutal dictators and spreading democracy in the Middle East, Murtha apparently prefers the old way of doing business with Arabs, where he gets juice from the sheiks.

The Democrats' cheat-sheet on Murtha demands that it be shouted out: "He didn't take a bribe on tape!" That's their defense. There is not even a pretense that he didn't talk to Arabs about a bribe.

He negotiated with a prostitute at the bar, but never consummated the deal. He's a saint! Let him be my congressman!

It's the Clintonian "incompetency" defense: Murtha was willing to be bribed; he just never got his act together enough to pick up the cash. I may not be honest, but I'm way too disorganized to actually take bribes!

Fine, Murtha was never convicted. Neither was Nixon. Venal hack John Murtha was willing to sell his country's interests to Arab sheiks. This is the man Democrats have put up to lead the anti-war charge today, demanding that the commander in chief stop deploying troops against his Arab friends.

If only this whole war thing would blow over, maybe that Arab is still waiting out there with a deal for him.


32 posted on 02/21/2007 4:29:27 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: sport

"They had a choice and chose him (Murtha)."


They chose Murtha for one reason and one reason only:

Porkporkporkporkporkporkporkporkpork!!

"Sooey, sooey, pigpigpigpigpigpigpig!!!"

(Thanks, PA 12th District. Thanks a hell of a lot!)


33 posted on 02/21/2007 4:29:55 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: cookcounty

"Wasn't there a more complete tape of this that came out in September? Where is it?????"

The Full Murtha - FBI’s 54 Min Video Of Abscam Sting | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/the-full-murtha-the-fbis-video-of-abscam-sting


34 posted on 02/21/2007 4:35:02 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: perfect stranger; AZ_Cowboy

Ann Coulter ping!

35 posted on 02/21/2007 4:36:10 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

That congressional district may deserve this prick but we sure don't.


36 posted on 02/21/2007 4:37:04 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: elcid1970

No, My guess is that Murtha has strong union backing, and in Rendell's PA, that's all you need to win. I'm pretty sure that Johnstown is a blue collar town.


37 posted on 02/21/2007 4:37:10 PM PST by Eva
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fact that his district re-elected him after Abscam demonstrates that there is nothing he could do, no matter how obscenely immoral, illegal, or stupid, that would result in his electoral defeat.


38 posted on 02/21/2007 4:37:11 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

ABSCAM was barely mentioned in the latest campaign that got Murtha reelected. The newspaper in my hometown didn't mention it; the Pittsburgh t.v. stations didn't mention it. I doubt the voters in Murtha's district even know much about it. Diana Irey tried to run against him, but she didn't have enough money or clout to beat him. Republicans need to get an experienced, savvy, clean politician to run against him who's willing to shovel some dirt. Murtha can be beaten.


39 posted on 02/21/2007 4:48:29 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

the wimps at the white house and gop expect the volunteer base to do their public relations and take on domestic enemies

lazy cowardly bastards

then, to add insult to injury, they betray the base

welcome to november 2006


40 posted on 02/21/2007 5:17:54 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (what does al qaeda and bush have in common? caves)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"In 1980, Murtha was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Abscam bribery scandal. Murtha was not indicted in the bribes-for-political-favors probe and ultimately cleared of wrongdoing by the House ethics committee. But his raunchy language and open-ended option to consider a future deal with undercover FBI agents is forever captured on videotape."


"He retired from the Reserves as a colonel in 1990"

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Murtha

Why wasn't he charged under the UCMJ?


41 posted on 02/21/2007 5:21:24 PM PST by Garvin (As an American, I want to win in Iraq!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great column.


42 posted on 02/21/2007 5:21:32 PM PST by syriacus (6 months into Truman's Korean War -- CENSORSHIP imposed; 11,000 US deaths; thousands more DRAFTED.)
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To: dandiegirl
Interesting how all these low-lifes get themselves elected to Congress. Any decent people there?

See F. A. Hayek's book, THE ROAD TO SERFDOM:

Chapter 10: Why The Worst Get On Top
43 posted on 02/21/2007 5:22:00 PM PST by Colinsky
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To: Rummyfan

most likely the foreign enemy is once again financing under the table the most vocal of the domestic enemies like murtha


44 posted on 02/21/2007 5:23:57 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (what does al qaeda and bush have in common? caves)
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To: Rummyfan
Thanks for posting the whole article. Here's my favorite line:

"But Murtha was willing to trade favors in return for investment in his district – and suggested he might take cash down the line. In other words, Murtha wasn't calling for an immediate surrender of his scruples and principles, but rather a phased withdrawal of them. "

I see another poster has posted a picture of Eowyn, the Nazgul slayer. Here's that picture, in Ann's honor:

45 posted on 02/21/2007 5:31:28 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's an experiment for God's existence: Ask Him to contact you.)
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To: Brilliant
"The fact that his district re-elected him after Abscam demonstrates that there is nothing he could do, no matter how obscenely immoral, illegal, or stupid, that would result in his electoral defeat."

Yes, there is ONE thing he could do to make him unelectable even at this late date - he could change parties!

46 posted on 02/21/2007 5:33:18 PM PST by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: andyandval

Well...you can't be too rich....


47 posted on 02/21/2007 5:34:50 PM PST by altura
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To: WestSylvanian
"Republicans need to get an experienced, savvy, clean politician to run against him who's willing to shovel some dirt. Murtha can be beaten."

Before the Republicans find that mythical candidate that you speak of, it might be beneficial to get rid of Murtha's buddy who is the head of the PA Republican party who makes sure he doesn't get any competition from anybody inside the party and limits his competition to some maverick like Irey who is pretty much self-financing and limited to contributions from the grassroots.

48 posted on 02/21/2007 5:43:52 PM PST by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: kellynla

Ann knows that! She calls him an "ex-Marine" on purpose, just as I do.


49 posted on 02/21/2007 5:45:14 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: Farmer Dean

Agreed!


50 posted on 02/21/2007 5:45:39 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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