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German trial over Anne Frank book
BBB ^ | Monday, February 28, 2007

Posted on 02/26/2007 11:43:52 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu

Diary of Anne Frank on judge's desk

The Diary of Anne Frank was displayed on the judge's desk

A suspected German neo-Nazi has admitted publicly burning a copy of Anne Frank's diary, at the start of his trial with six others.

The suspects are accused of inciting racial hatred and disparaging the dead.

Prosecutors in the eastern German city of Magdeburg said Lars Konrad, 25, threw the book onto a bonfire during a summer solstice party in June 2006.

Anne Frank wrote her diary while she and her family hid from the Nazis in an attic in Amsterdam during World War II.

The indictment says the public burning took place in Pretzien, near Magdeburg, and that the accused, aged from 24 to 29, glorified the Nazis.

Denying the Holocaust and incitement of racial hatred both carry maximum jail terms of five years under German law.

Mr Konrad's lawyer argued that he was merely trying to expiate an evil chapter in German history.

But state prosecutor Arnold Murra said the defendants "ridiculed Anne Frank and all those who died in the concentration camps".

The case shocked Germany, fuelling fears that neo-Nazism was on the rise in poor areas of the former East Germany.

Anne Frank's diary, found after the war, has moved millions of readers.

She died just before her 16th birthday in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in 1945.





TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: annefrank; eastgermany; eu; europe; genocide; germany; holocaust; neonazi; neonazism; pagan; paganism; secondworldwar; worldwar2; ww2
What is your opinion, especially to German freepers? Is neo-Nazism on the rise in the former East Germany?
1 posted on 02/26/2007 11:43:55 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

And paganism to boot.


2 posted on 02/26/2007 11:46:10 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

While the act was disgusting, what about free speech?


3 posted on 02/26/2007 11:47:59 AM PST by DonaldC
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

No doubt the mullahs in Iran consider the book a fabrication.


4 posted on 02/26/2007 11:49:05 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: DonaldC

"While the act was disgusting, what about free speech?"

It's Europe, there isn't any.


5 posted on 02/26/2007 11:50:40 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: mainepatsfan
In another BBC article on that topic, an ordinary Iranian defending the Iranian president contradicted himself when he stated that the president wasn't challenging that the German Holocaust occurred, but then later went on to state the president's view that if there was a Holocaust. So, it does seem that the Iranians have difficulty accepting that there was genocide in Europe during World War 2.
6 posted on 02/26/2007 11:56:04 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I've always thought it was odd that some Israeli haters in the ME would deny the Holocaust on the one hand and yet call the Israelis Nazis on the other hand.


7 posted on 02/26/2007 11:58:19 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

No, I don`t think it is on the rise, you will always have that anti-semitic, Nazi loving, Jew hating element just like we have the Democrat party here in the USA.


8 posted on 02/26/2007 12:01:28 PM PST by Screamname ( We will take things away from you for the benefit of the common good - Hellary Marx)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

When you can get arrested for political speech, yeah.


9 posted on 02/26/2007 12:15:52 PM PST by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: DonaldC

Europe has a bit to learn from the USA about freedom of speech and religion.


10 posted on 02/26/2007 12:16:53 PM PST by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: TheDon

Europe's history has to be taken into account, too, though.


11 posted on 02/26/2007 12:18:52 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

My opinion is that it's been over 60 years and the Germans still haven't mastered that Free Speech thing.


12 posted on 02/26/2007 12:37:12 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
And paganism to boot.

I saw a lot of paganism, especially with the big Walpurgisnacht parties. Not that it was a problem.

13 posted on 02/26/2007 1:24:14 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
[something] night.

Winter solstice night?

14 posted on 02/26/2007 1:41:49 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Winter solstice night?

Walpurgisnacht is an old pagan celebration with lots of bonfires, around April 30, which also puts it around the Celtic Beltane festival so they might be related. It's really "Witches' Night" but got the "Walpurgis" part due to a saint later being canonized around that same time of year.

15 posted on 02/26/2007 1:56:58 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Appreciated.


16 posted on 02/26/2007 2:09:19 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: DonaldC; BikerJoe; TheDon; Jedi Master Pikachu; edsheppa
I have no idea what the German Constitution has to say about free speech. I do know that anti-semitism runs deep, at least 900 years. Given the Nazi past, it is understandable that overt anti-semitism is harshly dealt with.

As for our Constitutionally protected free speech, we have a law, sanctified by the Scotus blackrobes, that proscribes what we can print about politicians just before elections. IMO, McCain/Feingold is a bigger threat to the people's free speech rights than the German laws regarding anti-semitism.

17 posted on 02/26/2007 2:43:32 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats and Islamists, butt buddies in jihad against these United States.)
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To: Jacquerie

I'll try to paraphrase your thinking: it's OK that Germans don't have free speech because McCain and Bush and five Supreme Court justices have attacked free speech in America. I completely reject that. The Germans are wrong and McCain is wrong. I trust you've heard the aphorism two wrongs don't make a right.


18 posted on 02/26/2007 3:43:04 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: edsheppa
Yes, you tried to paraphrase my thinking and failed.
19 posted on 02/26/2007 3:56:31 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats and Islamists, butt buddies in jihad against these United States.)
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To: Jacquerie

In what way did I fail?


20 posted on 02/26/2007 5:51:53 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: Jacquerie
Never mind, I get what you're saying. Maybe we can send McCain to Germany. He'll feel right at home.

And, by the way, you agree Germans don't have free speech rights if they can be jailed for burning that book, right? And that's bad, right?

21 posted on 02/26/2007 6:00:35 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Yes, Nazism is on the rise in East Germany. It is already considered dangerous to black-skinned people to walk through certain parts of the East. Then again, it´s dangerous for a white man to walk alone through Harlem after dark. The main problems are the same for all East Germans: unemployment, poverty, no religious background to give them faith/hope, no understanding of the benefits of a free society as the partents-generation grew up in the Communist world, a strong Communist Party in the East (20-30%, in the government of the state Berlin, ruling in many towns and cities). Therfore, frustration about the democratic parties is wide-spread and that drives some into Nazism. In some elections, Nazis got up to 10% of the votes. Although I don´t see a risk of Nazis joining a government or even controlling Germany again, the Nazis do a lot of damage to our society.


22 posted on 02/27/2007 12:39:14 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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