Posted on 02/27/2007 8:58:30 AM PST by EdLake
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We're talking about the anthrax attacks, NOT the 9/11 attacks. The article you posted is about the 9/11 attacks. All the 9/11 hijackers were DEAD at the time of the anthrax attacks.
Do you believe Bush was behind 911 too?
I have a web site which has been in operation for over 5 years, and I wrote a book two years ago, both of which clearly show that the FACTS indicate that a scientist who lives and works in Central New Jersey sent the anthrax letters in an attempt to awaken America to the dangers of a real bioweapons attack.
Right Wingers argue that foreigners were behind the attacks. Left Wingers argue that the Bush Administration was behind the attacks. I argue that both are wrong.
And "inside job"? What does that mean? That some reporter at The New York Post sent the letter to an editor there because he was angry with the editor? And some Republican Senator sent the letter to the Democratic Senators because he doesn't like Democrats? Or are you just saying you BELIEVE the anthrax came from some bioweapons program?
Here's a key fact for you: The "purified" anthrax in the Senate letters was NOT prepared the way a bioweapon is prepared. It was prepared the way INSECTICIDES are prepared.
I only mentioned the Saudi hijackers as an example into the terrorist mindset. And you acted as if you never heard bin Laden used Saudis to create a division between the US and Saudi Arabia. Osama's primary complaint was always US soldiers on Saudi soil so this theory is entirely logical. He wanted to drive a wedge between the US and Saudi Arabia to remove the US soldiers from their "holy" land. Take some time and look into the middle eastern customs and thinking process. These people do not think like you do.
I think you have spent too much time analyzing every little detail of this case and have become too focused on what you have found. You've taken every little clue and read meaning into it. Then you took that information and applied it to another clue and the problem here is that you did not start out in the right direction from the beginning. Step back for a minute and look at the big picture of means, motive, opportunity.
Why did Mohammed Atta check into using crop dusters? Maybe you think he just had a thing for airplanes? You are dismissing this as evidence for no other reason than because it is just too obvious.
Let's forget about the guy who bombed the WTC in '93, bombed the African embassies, bombed the USS Cole, declared war on the US, had tens of thousands of followers and convinced 19 of his followers to slit the throats of flight attendants with box cutters and fly planes into tall buildings full of people. It was just a coincidence that the anthrax letters were sent after 911. Some middle-aged white guy in New Jersey must have done it to warn us about the possibility of a terrorist attack.
Oh yeah? Like nearly everyone else, I initially assumed that al Qaeda was behind the anthrax attacks. But as the FACTS became known, it became more and more clear that that assumption was NOT valid.
When two Left Wing senators were attacked, I then began wondering if some Right Wing nutcase sent the letters.
When the anthrax turned out to be the Ames strain, and the Ames strain was thought to be very limited in its distribution, the picture changed again and so did my analysis.
Your comment points out the difference between you and I: If the FACTS say I have been wrong, I revise my analysis to fit the FACTS. You may be like George Bush and feel that is wrong and that people should stick with their initial decisions and beliefs no matter how STUPID those beliefs and decisions are, but I have to admit that that is not my way.
Why did Mohammed Atta check into using crop dusters? Maybe you think he just had a thing for airplanes? You are dismissing this as evidence for no other reason than because it is just too obvious.
Have you forgotten that Atta flew an airplane into a building? There are reports that Atta was planning to buy a crop duster and fit it with large gas tanks. The facts indicate the initial plan may have been to fly a crop duster laden with gasoline or chemicals into a skycraper. But then someone apparently came up with a much better and much more BOLD plan of hijacking some airliners.
The FACTS also say that spreading a few grams of powdered anthrax via a crop duster is a waste of time. The effects would be almost nil. The idea that Atta was planning to use a crop duster to spread a few grams of anthrax is just plain STUPID. There are a hundred chemicals he could have used which would have been a thousand times more lethal.
Let's forget about the guy who bombed the WTC in '93, bombed the African embassies, bombed the USS Cole, declared war on the US, had tens of thousands of followers and convinced 19 of his followers to slit the throats of flight attendants with box cutters and fly planes into tall buildings full of people. It was just a coincidence that the anthrax letters were sent after 911.
And you believe that the guy who did all that would send out a few ounces of anthrax in a WARNING LETTER, would INCLUDE MEDICAL ADVICE to reduce the danger, and then he wouldn't follow up with an actual attack even after Afghanistan was invaded and al Qaeda members all over the world were rounded up? Your beliefs are PREPOSTEROUS. They are contrary to the FACTS.
Of course not. You are totally ignoring the facts by saying such a ridiculous thing.
The letters were mailed from Central New Jersey where the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center was planned. Central New Jersey has a large Muslim population. Some of the 9/11 hijackers stayed for awhile in Paterson. Central New Jersey has about 200 labs capable of producing the attack anthrax. Muslims undoubtedly work in some of those labs. All these FACTS were KNOWN at the time of the first mailing.
A week after 9/11, the anthrax mailer sent out a WARNING that a bioweapons attack was coming. Many American scientists were absolutely CERTAIN that a bioweapons attack would be coming after 9/11 -- and they were equally CERTAIN that America was not ready to handle the possible deaths of thousands (or millions) of people from a bioweapon. Clinton's Secretary of Defense had gone on TV to talk about the damage that could be done with a five-pound bag of anthrax spores.
The first anthrax letters WARNED of a coming anthrax attack and they included MEDICAL ADVICE on how to PREPARE for such an attack. The idea that al Qaeda would send such a WARNING is preposterous.
The anthrax mailer lives and works in Central New Jersey and evidently feared that he and everyone around him could die from a bioweapons attack if the government didn't do something. One thing that could be done was to round up every suspicious looking Muslim in Central New Jersey.
BUT, Senators Leahy and Daschle were fighting the Patriot Act which seemed geared to doing exactly that. They were concerned with "Civil Rights" at a time when the anthrax mailer felt that MILLIONS could die.
So, when his first mailing accomplished nothing, the anthrax mailer sent a second mailing containing much more lethal anthrax to those two senators. AND he told them the powder WAS ANTHRAX so that everyone could take precautions. Because there was time to take precautions, and because everyone in the Senate buildings who were exposed to the powder took antibiotics, NOT ONE OF THEM came down with anthrax. The ONLY deaths from the second mailing were unintended.
And I could go on and on with FACTS which show that the letters were not sent by al Qaeda. But I'd prefer that you just buy my book. :-)
Because he was working on a "contingency basis" and because he is satisfied with the outcome, there could be more to the settlement than just the "quasi-retraction." But all parties have agreed to not discuss the terms of the settlement.
Verbum sat sapientes.
Verbum sat sapientes.
What good are a few random dead people if they are not able to serve as a warning? A handful of people dropping over dead would not have created any terror. They could have died for any number of reasons. But, if you tell people that anthrax is being sent through the mail, that causes terror.
Central New Jersey has about 200 labs capable of producing the attack anthrax. Muslims undoubtedly work in some of those labs.
So, your theory is that because a few muslims in New Jersey had access to anthrax..... those letters must have been sent by an evil Republican who wanted warn us about those muslims by sending letters with anthrax through the mail. How cleaver of that guy.
Here's what happened. Al-Qaeda sent the letters because, well, they like to kill people and cause terror. They sent letters to Democrats because they wanted to create division within the United States. In all honesty, it worked way better than they could have ever hoped for because it helped lead to the 911 "truthers" which in turn led to anti-American feelings throughout the entire world. Al-Qaeda warned about the anthrax for no other reason than to cause terror. Any further analysis of the letters for hidden meaning is pointless because the terrorists who wrote them are complete psychos.
Avis est verbum
Avis, avis, avis...
If you're talking about the fact that it was the Ames strain used, then I'm afraid that you're going by old and outdated information that was never really true in the first place.
Even the liberal government-media complex fairly recently admitted that the Ames strain was available pretty much all over the world. The early notions that it had to be stolen by the perp directly from Ft.Detrick never had even an ounce of validity.
Avis in locus secundo. Verbum argentum. Silentium aureum.
De infidelibus, minus locutus melior.
Actually, I'm not investigating anything. I'm an analyst, not an investigator. I collect FACTS and fit them together the way that best explains ALL the facts. "Best" means the way that doesn't defy physics or psychology or logic.
So, your theory is that because a few muslims in New Jersey had access to anthrax..... those letters must have been sent by an evil Republican who wanted warn us about those muslims by sending letters with anthrax through the mail. How cleaver of that guy.
You can twist things to fit your beliefs all you want, but it just makes you look devious and ignorant. I've collected and analyzed ALL the information I could find, so even you should be able to see I'm not basing my findings on just one fact or distorted belief.
Here's what happened. Al-Qaeda sent the letters because, well, they like to kill people and cause terror.
Then why don't you explain to us all why they sent MEDICAL ADVICE on how to prevent being harmed by some future attack!?
I DID. What good are random dead people if no one knows that it was an intentional terrorist attack!?
The stuff didn't magically "purify" itself.
That makes no sense. The letters were sent to specific people. There was no random choice of victims. And NO ONE knows that it WAS an "intentional terrorist attack". It was initially assumed so by almost everyone, but the facts quickly showed that it almost certainly wasn't from Iraq or al Qaeda. The attacker took many precautions to avoid killing people.
If you are going to rationalize explanations to fit things to your beliefs, the explanations should make SOME sense.
Why did the culprit use the pharmaceutical fold to avoid any spillage en route? Why did he tape the letters shut in an attempt to avoid any spillage en route?
And, if the letters were sent by Muslim terrorists, why did they create a deliberately false return address on the Senate letters? Would Muslim terrorists have been concerned if a letter filled with anthrax was returned to a REAL school?
And why did they send a relatively crude powder in the first letters to the media and a very refined powder in the second batch of letters to the two senators?
And where do you believe these powders were made? NBC news has reported that the powders were made in the Northeastern U.S. How do you rationalize that?
Although only a few grams of anthrax were used in the attacks, it was enough to kill hundreds or even thousands of people if the method of distribution had been different. Yet you want people to believe these terrorist were kind and gentle and sent medical advice in a WARNING and took all sorts of precautions to avoid hurting anyone? Really? Can't you see how totally ABSURD that belief is?
Has anyone said it did?
The purified powder in the Senate letters was made the way insecticides are made. It was NOT made the way bioweapons are made. Any expert in making insecticide or anti-fungal powders out of Bacillus thuringiensis or Bacillus globigii would know how to make the powder found in the Senate letters.
TENS OF THOUSANDS of people know HOW to make such powders. The number of potential suspects, however, is reduced by the other factors I gave: unrestricted access to lab equipment, access to the Ames strain, etc.
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