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To: JB in Whitefish
OH, and by the way...I CAN answer those questions you so handily formulated...but, it's your move.

I don't find it productive to respond endlessly to conspiracy theorists. It's a pointless excercise, since the conspiracy theorist will always rely on things which he thoroughly believes and which no one can prove are untrue.

You may consider it to be "proof" of a conspiracy in this case if the government was involved in some kind of real or imagined conspiracy in the past, but that is NOT proof of any kind.

To be productive, the arguments have to be about things which CAN be proven or disproven, not things which CANNOT be disproven.

Ed at

74 posted on 03/01/2007 10:23:15 AM PST by EdLake
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To: EdLake

"I don't find it productive to respond endlessly to conspiracy theorists. "

The government can and DOES on occasion perpetrate some rather questionable "programs" in the name of "national security".

You did NOT even LOOK at the link I provided, DID you...???

This is no "conspiracy", pal....

Yep, a MINIMUM of 10,000 people [conspirists to YOU] involved....$4 Billion expended....good Ol' JFK and Robert McNamara having a ball....

gassing and otherwise endangering U.S. Servicemen [and civilians] with NO "informed consent" chance of filing a VA Disability Claim..

and kept SECRET over three DECADES....!!!


Now, I ask you....just like you posed to ME:

HOW could anyone even IMAGINE this could happen here?

HOW did they "recruit" so many participants?

What KIND of motivation would people have [over 10,000] to keep this a TOTAL secret for so long?

WHERE are the whistle blowers...???


You are SO certain of your expertise when it comes to Biological Weapons I thought YOU of all people posting here could rattle off the rationale, the methods, the concentrations, the manufacture, the application, and the LEGALITY of such acts.

Why be so SHY...???


Just as I PREDICTED, you jumped in and criticized my reply to someone ELSE....who appears to be able to have a civil conversation even though we disagree.

What is YOUR agenda?

Why won't YOU look at the truth...???

Does it "bother" you in the least that I'm not PRETENDING to know "facts"...??? This, unfortunately is real, gritty, really ugly, and QUITE "un American" [Project SHAD/112]

If it IS a "conspiracy theory" then it's a darn GOOD one...because THIS conspiracy is still being perpetrated in the the Servicemen who were involved in MOST cases cannot even GET their full Service Medidal Records or Service Personnel Records and are being left to DIE so that the "test program" can round out its statistics.

Seems like a BIT of a "waste" wouldn't YOU say...???

But, hey...don't believe ME.

"Age 68, of Redford.
Larry attended schools in Pontiac, MI, and recently he and his wife, Doreen, attended the 50th anniversary of their high school graduation class."

"He joined the US Navy intending to have a lifetime service career. He was stationed at various places while receiving medical training as a corpsman and laboratory technician, including aboard the USS Pine Island, two years in the Philippines and stateside duty. In 1964, he was selected for Project 112/Project SHAD, which was a top secret project of biological and chemical warfare tests. He had various duties for SHAD, and in addition to his laboratory research work, he was assistant safety and exposed to many agents. He was injured in the line of duty but could not receive medical discharge due to the top secrest nature of his duties."

That would be his OBITUARY...!!!

And, from the SAME site:


Perhaps YOU had better get on OVER there and straighten those cowardly, unpatriotic, liars out...???

[In the MEAN time, I wouldn't be so cocksure of what the folks at Fort Detrick would or would not DO...!!!]

79 posted on 03/01/2007 2:11:35 PM PST by JB in Whitefish
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