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Kerry grills nominee over Swift boat [Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., grilled nominee Sam Fox...]
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Posted on 02/27/2007 6:05:02 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Kerry grills nominee over Swift boat By SAM HANANEL, Associated Press Writer 22 minutes ago

A Senate hearing that began with glowing tributes to a St. Louis businessman and his qualifications to become ambassador to Belgium turned bitterly divisive Tuesday after he was criticized for supporting a controversial conservative group.

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., grilled nominee Sam Fox about why he donated $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth during the 2004 presidential race. The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry — then the Democratic presidential nominee — and charged that Kerry did not deserve the medals he won in the Vietnam War.

"Might I ask you what your opinion is with respect to the state of American politics as regards the politics of personal destruction?" Kerry asked near the end of the hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Fox, one of the nation's most generous contributors to Republican candidates and causes, said he shared Kerry's concerns that politics "has become mean and destructive."

Fox said he didn't recall who asked him to give to the group and blamed partisans on both sides for contributing to so-called 527 groups that are not subject to conventional campaign finance rules.

"So is that your judgment that you would bring to the ambassadorship, that two wrongs make a right?" Kerry asked.

"I did it because politically it's necessary if the other side's doing it," Fox said.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gigolo; jeanfrancois; kerry; samfox; swiftboatvets
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such nonsense.........
1 posted on 02/27/2007 6:05:07 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

John Kerry is a flea.


2 posted on 02/27/2007 6:06:49 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Sub-Driver

Kerry's a first-class jackass.


3 posted on 02/27/2007 6:07:15 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Sub-Driver

Kerry's acting like a child. Nothing new there.


4 posted on 02/27/2007 6:07:15 PM PST by saganite
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To: Sub-Driver

You can practically hear the 'waaaaaaaah...'


5 posted on 02/27/2007 6:07:27 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Are you now or have you ever participated in the politics of personal destruction???

Hillery!'s mantra seems to be working.


6 posted on 02/27/2007 6:08:04 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I wish Kerry would ask me what I think of him in front a FOX camera.


7 posted on 02/27/2007 6:08:13 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Support your local EOD Detachment)
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To: Sub-Driver
This guy wussed out. He should have either said:

Senator, my donations to political causes have no bearing whatsoever on this job, so I refuse to answer.

Or, he should have told the truth, and said, "Well Senator, I didn't want you to be President, and by the way, you still haven't released your military records".

8 posted on 02/27/2007 6:08:27 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry

Bullsh!t!!! WHICH ALLEGATION WAS PROVEN UNTRUE???

9 posted on 02/27/2007 6:08:43 PM PST by digger48
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To: Sub-Driver

For giving $50,000 to the Swifties, this guy should get a cabinet slot or maybe the VP in 2008. Kerry should get slapped and sent to bed without his supper - what a putz.


10 posted on 02/27/2007 6:09:40 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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...group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry...

Really? Name one.

11 posted on 02/27/2007 6:10:46 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: Sub-Driver

Bringing partisan politics in to a senate hearing? Gotta love those lifetime senators.


12 posted on 02/27/2007 6:11:07 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Sub-Driver

I can't believe that to this day, the media still insists that the SBVT are liars.

Oh, BTW, long-faced John, did you sign that 180 yet?


13 posted on 02/27/2007 6:11:15 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: Sub-Driver

You lost Kerry. Time to figure it out. It's over.


14 posted on 02/27/2007 6:11:36 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Sub-Driver
Thanks Mr. Heinz,you put your record on the front pages again.

Only a moron would do such a thing.

15 posted on 02/27/2007 6:12:13 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Sub-Driver
the group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry

Unsubstantiated? HA!

16 posted on 02/27/2007 6:12:27 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Sub-Driver
But Kerry said the incident raised questions about Fox's fitness to serve as an ambassador.

Kerry's back-stabbing behaviour after Vietnam raises questions about his fitness to serve as a US Senator.

17 posted on 02/27/2007 6:13:07 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You are being kind. This jerk off is a disgrace to the Navy I served in for 26 years. My only regret is that I donated to the Swifities and I won't get to be face to face with this pretender.


18 posted on 02/27/2007 6:14:25 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: Sub-Driver

The thing that amazes me most about this is that Kerry was actually at "work" for a change.


19 posted on 02/27/2007 6:14:31 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Oh! The Obamanation! Durka durka durka...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bttt...


20 posted on 02/27/2007 6:14:44 PM PST by tubebender ( Everything east of the San Andreas fault will eventually plunge into the Atlantic Ocean...)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., grilled nominee Sam Fox about why he donated $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth during the 2004 presidential race. The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry — then the Democratic presidential nominee — and charged that Kerry did not deserve the medals he won in the Vietnam War.

Get over it crybaby!

21 posted on 02/27/2007 6:15:14 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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Wish he'd said:

"I'd have to see your records to respond properly, Senator.'


22 posted on 02/27/2007 6:16:35 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Kerry's a spoiled punk who needs an ass kicking.


23 posted on 02/27/2007 6:17:24 PM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Sub-Driver
See what happens when you kow tow to the Chi-coms? When an American puts his money where his mouth is, Yahoo calls whatever it is he's saying "allegations".
24 posted on 02/27/2007 6:17:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver
The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry

Why didn't they just call them liars? Seemingly, to be "substantiated" a Democrat must say it. I would really like to dump a pint of Georgia chiggers in Long John's underwear drawer.

25 posted on 02/27/2007 6:17:37 PM PST by IamConservative (Any man who agrees with you on everything, will lie to anyone.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I went to a prep school filled with guys like kerry. They think they';re entitled to power. All of them were lame-brains! They were raised to feel this way, and they actually weren't smart enough to even think about it. It was theirs by entitlement. They were dummies. Incapable of real consideration of their position. What a sad state of affairs!
26 posted on 02/27/2007 6:17:54 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Sub-Driver

My sister used to work for Sam as his personal admin assistant. He is a first rate man and human being.


27 posted on 02/27/2007 6:19:25 PM PST by irish guard
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To: Sub-Driver
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., grilled nominee Sam Fox about why he donated $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth during the 2004 presidential race. The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry — then the Democratic presidential nominee — and charged that Kerry did not deserve the medals he won in the Vietnam War.

Not only did I buy the book by the Swift Boat Veterans, but I read it! The arguments are compelling; the evidence is overwheming. Kerry clearly has a mental disorder as evidenced by the fact that he would challenge the truth again. Who is he? Don Quixote? a fool calling incoming onto himself? ...more evidence that the people of the Great State of Massachusetts are very strange to elect such a numbskull to the Senate!

28 posted on 02/27/2007 6:20:23 PM PST by olezip
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To: digger48
WHICH ALLEGATION WAS PROVEN UNTRUE???

Every allegation the MSM investigated

29 posted on 02/27/2007 6:20:39 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: Sub-Driver
I didn't even know that hearings were required for ambassador to Belgium. Talk about a waste of money...he'll be there less than two years!

Still, had Dubya called me, I would've accepted the offer.

30 posted on 02/27/2007 6:21:20 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Choate or Deerfield?


31 posted on 02/27/2007 6:21:45 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sign the SF180, Senator Kerry, then we'll know what allegations were "unsubstantiated" and which were not...


32 posted on 02/27/2007 6:22:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Might I ask you what your opinion is with respect to the state of American politics as regards the politics of personal destruction?" Kerry asked

Response:

Well, that practice sure kept Bill Clinton in office didn't it Mr. Kerry?

33 posted on 02/27/2007 6:22:20 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It's time our lawmakers paid more attention to their responsibilities, and less to their privileges.)
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To: Rodney King
This guy wussed out

I agree...poorly answered.

34 posted on 02/27/2007 6:22:27 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: Sub-Driver

"group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry "

They were very well documented allegations.

And Bush had good documentation of WMD, which has been turned into a lie that says there were no WMD found.

flip flop flip flop


35 posted on 02/27/2007 6:22:34 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
A voice for 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

"First I picked Edwards BUT now I pick Hanoi Jane!"

Edwards played football in 1971 when he turned 18
instead of serving in Vietnam.
Hanoi Jane at least was a Viet Cong!
Just like me!

Hanoi Jane and I know how to demoralize US Troops serving today!

We hate US Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

We hate all US Troops!

We lie about them in 2004 the same as we did in the 60's and 70's!

We vow to insult and undermine Iraq Prime Minister Ayad Allawi

We vow to protect the UN and the Oil for Food Scandal

We vow to keep secret the ties between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaida

We vow to free Saddam Hussein with help from our old friend Ramsey Clark.


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You can read it online right now.

36 posted on 02/27/2007 6:25:31 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Sub-Driver
How did Kerry know he contributed $50,000? Every allegation the MSM investigated was proven untrue? How many were there? I remember the attorney in Washington state who got in trouble for signing an affidavit as a witness, wonder what became of him? Also I remember the schematic in one of the Washington papers of the incident at the weir, some backpeddling by a couple high-up's, but I never was clear on just what was untrue. Much of it seemed to go into limbo since it relied on memories from 30 years ago and he said she said.

But he did not spend Christmas in Cambodia when Nixon was president. The MSM downplayed that.

37 posted on 02/27/2007 6:28:31 PM PST by Aliska
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The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry

No, they were substantiated. It was Kerry's denials that were unsubstantiated. Ya see, if he would sign his SF-180 . . . . . . .

38 posted on 02/27/2007 6:29:11 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: atomicpossum
You can practically hear the 'waaaaaaaah...'

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39 posted on 02/27/2007 6:29:27 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sen. John Kerry: Why did you donate $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth during the 2004 presidential race?

Sam Fox: Because you're an asshole?

40 posted on 02/27/2007 6:30:22 PM PST by pabianice (LLY)
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To: digger48

You beat me to it. How come Kerry hasn't sued anyone for SLANDER? He and the Clintons should be the wealthiest people in the world for all their won law suites against those who slandered them.


41 posted on 02/27/2007 6:30:47 PM PST by unkus
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To: Sub-Driver

First of all...what is OBAMA doing as a committee Chairman??

Second of all....this was Prs. Bush's nominee, right??

So, why shouldn't he give to a cause that wanted to beat carry???

Third of all...those charges against carry were NOT unsubstantiated!!!

Fourth...Doesn't this show everyone WHY jon carry would have made a LOUSY POTUS??? How would he have reacted if he had to put up with the constant critcism and name-calling that Prs. Bush has had to put up with??

Pres. Bush has repeatedly been called a liar, war-monger, terrorist..and that is from the SENATORS!!!

What a petty, petty man jon carry is...and what an cocky a$$hole that Obama has turned out to be!!!


42 posted on 02/27/2007 6:31:27 PM PST by Txsleuth
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The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry — then the Democratic presidential nominee — and charged that Kerry did not deserve the medals he won in the Vietnam War.

I did not realize that soldiers "won" their medals. I always thought that they were "awarded". Getting medals is NOT a contest.
43 posted on 02/27/2007 6:32:36 PM PST by LetsRok
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, John F. Kerry, you promised to sign Form 180 to publicly release all government documents in your name.

But you Lied, John F. Kerry. You only authorized a partial release. Only a little tidbit.

Come on, JF Kerry, let's talk, let's chat, let's dialogue about your TREASON!


44 posted on 02/27/2007 6:36:12 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Bahbah; Mo1; Rheo; STARWISE; MagUSNRET; onyx

Ping


45 posted on 02/27/2007 6:37:10 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: saganite

You're quite right. A mature man would have thought himself above this sort of thing.


46 posted on 02/27/2007 6:38:11 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Sub-Driver

"Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record), D-Ill., a presidential hopeful and chairman of Tuesday's hearing, said he found Fox's responses "unsatisfying." He said he would have preferred if Fox admitted it was a mistake to contribute to the Swift Boat group."

This bugged me more then anything Kerry said.In other words "we in the Democrap Party don't like who you contributed to,so admit you were wrong or you can forget the job". What a total punk !!!


47 posted on 02/27/2007 6:38:34 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: Sub-Driver
In Kerry's narcissistic little mind, everything is about him. What a puke!
48 posted on 02/27/2007 6:41:45 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Dems and RINOs: Too stupid 2 lead, too vain 2 follow, too egotistical 2 get the hell out of the way!)
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To: olezip

49 posted on 02/27/2007 6:42:22 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Txsleuth
The group of Vietnam veterans made unsubstantiated allegations against Kerry

Unsubstantiated????? I don't think so. The smearing of the Swifties is one of the great disgraces of our time and continues to this day. True heroes and patriots from Viet Nam being trashed and no one in the media says hold on now, being Swift boated means someone finally speaks the truth. Makes me sick.

50 posted on 02/27/2007 6:42:38 PM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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