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To Iraq and Back- ABC's Bob Woodruff
ABC News ^ | 2/27/07 | Bob Woodruff

Posted on 02/27/2007 7:32:21 PM PST by txroadkill

Just wondering if anybody else is watching this.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abc; iraq; woodruff

1 posted on 02/27/2007 7:32:25 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: txroadkill

Not me. I'm on FR and hubby's watching the western channel. Is it good? What's it about?


2 posted on 02/27/2007 7:35:47 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: txroadkill
yes. it is pretty heartwrenching but there is a dignity and spirit to those who were wounded. Even in the state some of them find themselves in, I am awed by the determination and will their loved ones have shown. True sacrifice indeed.

God bless these noble warriors and their families.

3 posted on 02/27/2007 7:39:03 PM PST by bubman
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To: processing please hold

Basically it is a documentary about his recovery. So far he has been praising the military for saving his life both in Iraq and then in Germany and back in the US. But, I'm waiting for the liberal slant.


4 posted on 02/27/2007 7:39:36 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: txroadkill
Nah, I've seen this one before.

In the end, it's Bush's fault.
5 posted on 02/27/2007 7:43:11 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: txroadkill

I watching. So far it is very well done.


6 posted on 02/27/2007 7:44:34 PM PST by TheMom (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . . . Heaven!)
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To: txroadkill
But, I'm waiting for the liberal slant.

Coming from him, so am I.

7 posted on 02/27/2007 7:45:33 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Thrownatbirth
Here it comes...bashing the VA.

Real nice of him after the Military treated him like a soldier.

8 posted on 02/27/2007 7:45:41 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: txroadkill
Do me a favor gang, when he starts talking about how the VA has screwed up handling some of these kids with these injuries take a breath. If he puts pressure on the VA to do a better job he's doing these kids a favor.

We owe these soldiers and their families! Some of them are not being taken care of. That's a fact! I'm pissed to see the head of the VA say they are doing all they can. That is a lie.

9 posted on 02/27/2007 7:48:27 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Oh! The Obamanation! Durka durka durka...)
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To: txroadkill

I did not see it as "bashing" the VA. He is giving an honest view of the VA hospitals around the country. From what I understand can be a pain in the rear to deal with.


10 posted on 02/27/2007 7:51:18 PM PST by TheMom (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . . . Heaven!)
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To: txroadkill

I'm not watching but Someone told me it was amazingly good coming from ABC.


11 posted on 02/27/2007 7:52:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: isthisnickcool
We owe these soldiers and their families!

I'm with you on this so long as the attacks are legitimate and are coming from soldiers not some leftist reporters who are trying to get ratings.

12 posted on 02/27/2007 7:55:15 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: txroadkill
Here it comes...bashing the VA.

Perhaps. But not unjustifiably. The soldier didn't get care for awhile because the VA near him didn't have his case number. His freakin' case number. A damn phone call could have cleared that up, but no.
13 posted on 02/27/2007 8:01:02 PM PST by HaveHadEnough
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To: TheMom

The VA can be a pain. My grandmother had a stroke last week and we've been struggling to get them to pay for the therapy that they should be giving her.

It's not a malicious thing, it's just a bureaucratic swamp.


14 posted on 02/27/2007 8:01:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: txroadkill
On the whole, I'm finding it better than I expected. While I was aware that the nature of combat injuries has been different from those of previous conflicts, I was not aware of the inadequate level of care provided by the VA. If Woodruff's reporting helps force and improvement in care given to our soldiers, it's worthwhile.

I'm happy for him and his family that he's recovered to the extent he has. It's really quite amazing, and a tribute to those who cared for him every step of the way, as well as to his spirit.

It's well done, except for the annoying sections where they cut in and out rapidly, making it hard to understand what was being communicated. I guess I'm old fashioned that way. To Woodruff's credit, he focused more on the injured soldiers than on his own story.

15 posted on 02/27/2007 8:03:12 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: cripplecreek

Prayers for your grandmother and I hope it does not take very long for her to get the care she needs.


16 posted on 02/27/2007 8:17:23 PM PST by TheMom (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . . . Heaven!)
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To: txroadkill

Not me...there was a jennifer Garner movie on FX. A13 year old girl wishes she were 30.


17 posted on 02/27/2007 8:18:28 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (He who talks on cell phone while spending time with kids..is not spending time w/kids)
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To: txroadkill

I don't need to watch it to know what happens, in the end they will get around to bashing the President.....As usual. As for the VA, I am a retired disabled vet, so I know a little about that, the VA"s problem is what I use to call over committed and under funded, you have to stay on them from day one. In their defence they have treated me great, it just took a while to get my rating.


18 posted on 02/27/2007 8:22:49 PM PST by 3IDVET (Ask a liberal, What will you do when a terrorist says Convert or Die????)
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To: cripplecreek

I never watch Oprah but had seen a promo that he and his wife would be on, as would David Bloom's widow, so I intentionally watched today, curious to see their stories now that it's further removed and they're all sharing more. I was actually quite surprised then with what he said about the care and how they treated him, and his concern for the soldiers, etc. I'm west coast and haven't seen this special yet, but I was curious to read the thread to see if what he said earlier when they moved a bit broader than his own story was a fluke, or if really might be a pretty decent angle. I'm glad it seems the clip earlier may have been sincere and not just due to editing.


19 posted on 02/27/2007 8:25:06 PM PST by mfccinsd
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To: TheMom

We're getting things straightened out. We found a hospital that she likes better than the VA hospital. The place she's in now has music therapy which she really wanted but couldn't get at the VA hospital.

The VA is beginning to help but it just takes time.


20 posted on 02/27/2007 8:25:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: txroadkill
I'm with you on this so long as the attacks are legitimate and are coming from soldiers not some leftist reporters who are trying to get ratings.

Considering that I've seen how a family has had to handle a son with a brain injury caused by an IED I say that I don't care who delivers the information if it helps these kids and families get more help that works for me.

If you want to help some of these brave soldiers please give money to The Injured Marine Semper Fi Fund. They are usually the first group at the injured soldiers bedside. And they bring something important. Money.

Some give with their lives, some give for the rest of their lives.

21 posted on 02/27/2007 9:00:29 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Oh! The Obamanation! Durka durka durka...)
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To: TheMom

Since July of this last year I've been very pleased with the care I've received from V.A. (we'll update if my claim for agent orange comes through).


22 posted on 02/27/2007 9:15:25 PM PST by stumpy
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To: stumpy

Every conversation I have had regarding the VA (beginning in 1980), there was never a complaint about the doctors or nurses. The major issues was getting your foot in the door and wading through all the pencil pushers.


23 posted on 02/27/2007 9:24:22 PM PST by TheMom (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . . . Heaven!)
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To: isthisnickcool
Do me a favor gang, when he starts talking about how the VA has screwed up handling some of these kids with these injuries take a breath. If he puts pressure on the VA to do a better job he's doing these kids a favor.

We owe these soldiers and their families! Some of them are not being taken care of. That's a fact! I'm pissed to see the head of the VA say they are doing all they can. That is a lie.

I am retired Army. I am a 30% disabled veteran. I was wounded in Vietnam, which is part of my disability. That being said, I have dealt with VA for years. I have had fairly good luck with most of my dealings with them. BUT, the VA contracts out to doctors. I saw a doctor concerning part of my disability, knee damage, and he was a local doctor who worked only on weekends and a day or two a week to see VA patients, and get paid big bucks government tax payer money to loaf around. My examination with him lasted a WHOLE three minutes!!! IN that 3 minutes, he spoke to me about my problem, examined my knee by twisting it a couple of times, and then cut me lose. I did not see him again.

About two months later I receive notice from the VA that my disability claim was denied. I had a right to appeal which I did to the appeals board in Washington, D.C. I completed all the paper work and filed it with the local Seattle VA office (I lived in WA at that time). I then WAITED OVER THREE YEARS for the appeal to be acted on in Washington. Then, after three long years, I received notice that the appeals board had overturned the doctor's findings, and approved my disability.

This doctor, who was just there (in my personal opinion) to pad his pockets and do as little work as possible, caused me to wait over three years. And, it cost me a lot of money that I would have received had the fool given me a favorable report in the beginning. The appeals board said that my health records alone proved my case and that the doctor apparently did not do a good enough exam.

So, in some cases VA sucks. Others they do okay. They are understaffed, and the VA hospitals rely on contract doctors. So, if you have some doctor that barely got out of med school, is boarder line terrible, and no real hospital would have him, he gets hired to work at the VA, and even at active US military hospitals as contract doctors.

24 posted on 02/27/2007 9:25:30 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America has lost it's Effin' mind and will never recover.)
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To: isthisnickcool

((((Hugs))))Just a hug.


25 posted on 02/27/2007 9:29:13 PM PST by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

26 posted on 02/27/2007 9:35:09 PM PST by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: stumpy

(((Hugs)))


27 posted on 02/27/2007 9:38:50 PM PST by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: RetiredArmy

Another (((Hugs)))


28 posted on 02/27/2007 9:42:05 PM PST by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: txroadkill; All

It's really good to see how well Woodruff has come back to almost total recovery.

However, the program was very typical lefty bleeding hearts about all the wounded soldiers and supposedly the DOD has told people to keep the wounded numbers quiet.

While I understand why you don't tell your enemy how good a job he's doing wounding your soldiers .. apparently Bob and the guy he was talking to considered that a bad thing .. of course .. telling the enemy all our secrets seems to be okay with these people.

It started out okay .. just documentary type stuff and I was interested in the type of treatment Bob got, etc. But when he started on his brain injury tour, it turned me off.

It's not that I can't see these injuries and understand what a sacrifice these young men and women are making .. it's how ABC handled it. There's very little that's positive about it .. except at the end of the program .. Bob had been following one young man who had a similar injury as Bob's .. and while ABC seemed to enjoy showing how the VA screwed up his care .. the last few scenes were of the young man finally receiving the local treatment that he needed.

I keep hoping people like Bob will have a more profound epiphany after such a major injury .. an awakening and a reality check like no other. I'm not expecting instant conservatism .. LOL .. but something more like common sense along with a grateful heart.

Who knows .. someone like Woodruff could have such a revelation that he might end up changing the whole dynamic of ABC.


29 posted on 02/27/2007 11:25:00 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt
i admire Bob.Seeing him on TV with half of his head and his kids teaching him words.He stands in my mind as a hero.He regrets taking his crew there.I can understand that.But I always liked Bob and kept looking for a reason not to like him.I still like him.
30 posted on 02/27/2007 11:38:56 PM PST by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: CyberAnt

http://www.bobwoodrufffamilyfund.org/


31 posted on 02/28/2007 6:31:02 PM PST by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: flying Elvis

Well .. I don't trust most media people (on the left), but this appears to be a case of "putting his money where his mouth is" and for the sake of our wounded soldiers, I'm very grateful.

I believe this organization will help many of our seriously wounded to end up with a more meaningful life than could have been accomplished without Bob's help.


32 posted on 02/28/2007 8:33:42 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt

I agree. That picture of the soldier with the head wound is heartbreaking.


33 posted on 02/28/2007 8:45:58 PM PST by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: txroadkill
It was a freekin hit piece on the VA !

They didn't have anything good to say and that bald guy who is some Vet pissed me off as well. He trashed the VA and said the Gov't didn't have a clue.

Well, my answer to him is that there are hundreds of thousands on Vietnam Vets using the VA who are getting the treatment they need (Post Dramatic Stress) and they are dying off so 10,000 or 20,000 Iraq Vets won't break the system like he claims.

Also, there's not too many hospitals that are in small towns that can handle these types of brain injuries so don't expect the VA to have the care in these areas either !

I've been going to the VA for 5 years now and I go at least once every 3-4 months and there's never any Iraq War vets there and they are all older men with a few women.

The VA system isn't broken and it's still slow to get our troops into the system after the return from Iraq but that's the Gov't and it's going to be slow no matter what.

34 posted on 02/28/2007 8:57:12 PM PST by america-rules
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