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US's Iraq oil grab is a done deal
asia times online ^ | Feb 28, 2007 | Pepe Escobar

Posted on 03/02/2007 3:40:39 AM PST by Flavius

y 2010 we will need [a further] 50 million barrels a day. The Middle East, with two-thirds of the oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize lies." - US Vice President Dick Cheney, then Halliburton chief executive officer, London, autumn 1999

US President George W Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney might as well declare the Iraq war over and out. As far as they - and the humongous energy interests they defend - are concerned,

THE ROVING EYE US's Iraq oil grab is a done deal By Pepe Escobar

"By 2010 we will need [a further] 50 million barrels a day. The Middle East, with two-thirds of the oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize lies." - US Vice President Dick Cheney, then Halliburton chief executive officer, London, autumn 1999

US President George W Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney might as well declare the Iraq war over and out. As far as they - and the humongous energy interests they defend - are concerned,

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; oil
thats very nice so, when do we get the price cuts

also, if any of the farmers know, when will we be able to produce 20M barrels worth of "oil" per day, from the farm stuffs...

1 posted on 03/02/2007 3:40:40 AM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Sounds good to me!!


2 posted on 03/02/2007 3:47:21 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Flavius

BINGO!


3 posted on 03/02/2007 3:52:20 AM PST by shove_it
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To: Flavius
Evil. EVIL!

The left hates when oil prices go up--Bush hurting the little guy!

They hate when oil prices go down--Iraq is all about oil!

4 posted on 03/02/2007 3:57:42 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, Bostonian, Bush supporter, atheist, pro-lifer)
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To: Flavius

Sounds like a good thing to me.


5 posted on 03/02/2007 3:59:39 AM PST by gcruse (Having half-white Obama play the race card is like Michael Jackson playing the gender card.)
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To: Flavius

It's our oil anyhow, we ought to just take it.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 4:01:37 AM PST by angkor
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To: Flavius

Another delusional moonbat article. If we wanted Iraq's oil, we would have left Saddam in power and got it cheap.

As far as "growing" 50 million barrels of oil, dream on. the tiny little bit of ethanol production we are doing is already driving up commodity prices, making - you guessed it- leftist moonbats whine about rising food prices. Imagine if the demand for ethanol and bio diesel was at a level that actually reduced oil imports, what corn, wheat, soy, barley, sugar beet commodity prices would be.


7 posted on 03/02/2007 4:05:53 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Darkwolf377
The left hates when oil prices go up--Bush hurting the little guy!

They hate when oil prices go down--Iraq is all about oil!


Bush Derangment Syndrome.
8 posted on 03/02/2007 4:07:11 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: Flavius
Yawn ... Back to oppressin' the masses!

'Bout time too!

9 posted on 03/02/2007 4:10:09 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Trying to economically make fuel ethanol out of food stocks is not consistant. On the other hand, ethanol and methanol can be fermented out of just about any organic substance: garbage, sawdust, scrap paper, and so on.

My car is already set up to use a 15% Methanol/gasoline mix; but I can't find Methyfuel anywhere in my area.

VietVet


10 posted on 03/02/2007 4:31:45 AM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Flavius
Scandalously, Iraqi public opinion had absolute no knowledge of it - not to mention the overwhelming majority of Parliament members. That's because we made it up just before going to print.

I'm sick of these bogus "blood for oil" stories. If this no-name reporter has the goods (IOW, real facts) he should cough them up. Otherwise, he can buy our gas for us for claiming this fabrication.

11 posted on 03/02/2007 4:43:36 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: VietVet

Ask any NASCAR crew chief- methanol is a very high octane fuel. Methanol can be produced for less than a dollar a gallon from coal. Methanol plants have been shuting down for lack of demand. Source - the coal industry.


12 posted on 03/02/2007 4:48:43 AM PST by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: Flavius

"Iraq Oil Grab a Done Deal"

Sounds like we're making progress with this 'surge'!!!!


13 posted on 03/02/2007 4:51:21 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The only question now is do we turn towards the east or the south. My vote is for the south, but we'll end up going east.


14 posted on 03/02/2007 4:54:07 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: Flavius

I saw where Soros purchased millions in Halliburton stock. Maybe they should bring him up instead of the vice president.


15 posted on 03/02/2007 5:47:33 AM PST by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: Flavius

Kick their ass and take their gas!!!! That's a plan. Yehaaaawww


16 posted on 03/02/2007 5:50:12 AM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: Flavius

If the ware were really for oil, we'd have just invaded ANWR and started drilling.

My ultra-lib sister hates it when I tell her that.


17 posted on 03/02/2007 5:50:14 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours! Keep scrubbing, Rudy supporters, the blood won't come off.)
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To: Flavius
So, leaning on the Iraqi government to share the oil profits with every citizen to spend as they please is somehow bad, or an "oil grab" by the US?

Folks that advocate this are just plain unhinged. No other oil exporting nation does this. In most cases, the revenue becomes fair game for the ruling to treat as personal loot like the House of Saud does. Even in the US, the royalties and lease payments go into the public treasury, for the pols to divvy up and use to fund "vital unmet needs", like to build tropical rainforests in Iowa and bridges to nowhere in Alaska.
18 posted on 03/02/2007 5:59:09 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Doubly ridiculous is that the writer is either ignorant of or lying about the oil deals that other governments and companies have not just in Iraq but throughout the world.

Right next door in Iran, China's Sinopec has a $70 billion, 51 percent development deal for the Yadavaran oil field. India's ONGC Videsh Ltd has a 20 percent share of it, for $40 billion, and has a 100 percent stake in the Jeyfr oil field. Iran's government owns 29 percent of Yadavaran. Royal Dutch Shell is supposed to be working with Iran to develop their portion of the field.

It's not like the U.S. is the only country getting oil out of the Middle East: Japan, S Korea, and Taiwan get 75 percent there; China, about 20 percent, and India more than 50 percent.

All of these countries and their associated petro companies have deals all over the world, with China being much more aggressive in recent years.

The writer has been driven insane or maybe just retarded by BDS.


19 posted on 03/02/2007 6:27:04 AM PST by angkor
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To: DustyMoment
I'm sick of these bogus "blood for oil" stories. If this no-name reporter has the goods (IOW, real facts) he should cough them up. Otherwise, he can buy our gas for us for claiming this fabrication.

Yep.

The fabrication is necessary because the new law could possibly result in the unification of Iraqis against the insurgency. The law is loosely patterned on the revenue sharing in Alaska, and can have a tremendous effect on easing sectarian tensions in Iraq. The left cannot allow this war to become a success for Bush, thus the revisionist commentary. US oil interests are having to bid for everything they get in Iraq, and they will win some bids, just as they do in every other Mid-East country.

The US does not have to OWN or CONTROL Iraqi oil in order for our economy to benefit in spades. Iraq possesses 5% of the world's reserves, plus one trillion cubic feet of natural gas, without any exploration in the last 25 years. Their extraction tech has been running at approximately 30% efficiency, which means that without further discoveries, and with the on-going upgrade in extraction tech, Iraqi oil alone could bust OPEC. The revenue sharing will mean that any leader's political survival will necessitate not listening to OPEC calls for production cut-backs, it would be political suicide; no other OPEC member will have this built-in imperative to pump oil.

20 posted on 03/02/2007 6:27:18 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

Interesting comment. I didn't give the article enough thought to consider any of that. Thanks for sharing.


21 posted on 03/02/2007 7:40:26 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
Going another layer down on the issue of oil supplies, please consider that oil is fungible. If China owns 100% of an oil field in some other country and every drop it pumps is sent on to China, it still has the same exact supply effect on the market as if they put every drop up for sale to the highest bidder.

That is because if the Chinese didn't ship it all back to China, the demand it is satisfying would have to be made up by buying it from some other source.

This is exactly why it will not have any effect on funding hostile OPEC countries when someone suggests that we must stop buying oil from them. OPEC found this out when they thought they could "embargo" selling oil to any country that supported Israel in the 1970s. They tried it twice. Twice the free world market in fungible oil allowed the US to to continue to import just as much oil as ever.

The oil that the Saudis refused to sell to the US was bought by Japan. The oil that Japan was going to buy from some other non-OPEC source, went instead to the US because there we were willing to pay more for it.

The only way to cut off oil funding by hostile Arab regimes is to prevent them from pumping any of it out of the ground. Any oil they pump ends up displacing, however indirectly, other oil in the free market.
22 posted on 03/02/2007 8:10:22 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Flavius

Biggest collection of perverted, distorted BS logic I have ever seen. If his article was spandex it would split the seems of rationality!


23 posted on 03/02/2007 9:01:44 AM PST by lawdude (2006: The elections we will live to die for!)
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To: wayoverontheright

My favorite part of this article is the 'raping and pillaging' of the profits from the oil fields -- without any mention of the capital investment needed, or even how much of the price of a barrel will go to the Iraqis vs. the oil developer.

He does manage to slide in the $1US cost of extraction and teh $60US current market price, but no mention of what percentage of the $59US goes to the Iraqi people. For the war to have been about oil, the US would have to get 100% of the profits for every Iraqi barrel for the next 20 years.


24 posted on 03/02/2007 9:08:04 AM PST by Kellis91789
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