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Strategies for a Bold Conservative Future
conservativesbetrayed.com ^ | March 1, 2007 | Richard A. Viguerie CPAC Speech

Posted on 03/02/2007 4:16:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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1 posted on 03/02/2007 4:16:58 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
We have to build a whole new conservative movement, independent of the two major parties.

I understand the Greens are fed up with the big government, two party system too.

2 posted on 03/02/2007 4:28:11 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Jim Robinson
However, it’s not likely to happen quickly, certainly not by 2008.

It won't happen as long as those who claim to be true conservatives continue to sit home on a day when it really counts. There's no advancement by merely staying home, sitting there, stewing in your Barc-O-Lounger by complaining everyday that one party is morphing into the other. Other than that, the author can cry me a river.

3 posted on 03/02/2007 4:35:03 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Jim Robinson

Destroying the republican party, and therefore putting democrats into permanent power, will not do one single thing but allow the MSM to marginalize conservatives more than ever. IMO this flawed strategery will be the end of the conservative movement as a force to be reckoned with.


4 posted on 03/02/2007 4:37:47 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"My strong recommendation is for conservatives to stop being an arm of the Republican Party and become a 3rd Force, but not a 3rd Party."
5 posted on 03/02/2007 4:42:23 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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Great article. Too many people misinterpret the 2006 election as a rejection of conservatism, when in fact it was corruption and Iraq that bogged down the GOP. Unabashed conservatism is still the most persuasive ideology; we need to remember that even most Democrats live their lives as conservatices, and show them why the GOP more closely mirrors their ideology.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 4:45:54 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Jim Robinson
"My strong recommendation is for conservatives to stop being an arm of the Republican Party and become a 3rd Force, but not a 3rd Party."

My strong recommendation is to stop bitching and do something.

7 posted on 03/02/2007 4:46:15 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
My strong recommendation is to stop bitching and do something.

The man created the site that brought down Dan Rather and exerts a significant influence on national politics. What more do you want?

8 posted on 03/02/2007 4:47:27 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Well, we have, er, thought we had, our little group of conservatives here. We're building on something if we don't lose our way.


9 posted on 03/02/2007 4:48:26 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: tkathy

IMO the core problem is not the republican party, the core problem is the MSM successfully marginalizing the conservative movement as out of touch racist religious extremists.


10 posted on 03/02/2007 4:51:38 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: NittanyLion
All well and good. What has Richard A. Viguerie done besides hide behind some wall in Washington, D.C., blaming voters for showing up to the polls? He never did blame the left-winged media, who have exerted more influence on the public opinion and perception of the voters, who was responsible for the down fall of such Conservatives as George Allen, Rick Santorum, Pat Toomey, Conrad Burns, Jim Talent, among others.

Duke Cunningham got what he deserved. The others didn't.

11 posted on 03/02/2007 4:53:01 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Jim Robinson
I absolutely agree. The two predominate parties have become virtually indistinguishable.
12 posted on 03/02/2007 4:53:33 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: NittanyLion; DrDeb

DrDeb posted this interesting item of historical perspective on another thread, and I quote:


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The more things change, the more they stay the same . . . Viguerie "hectored" Reagan as well!!


IS CONSERVATISM FINISHED?
By Wilfred M. McClay

". . . We also forget that the Reagan administration itself, far from being happily unified, was driven by internal battles between “pragmatists” and “ideologues,” conflicts that prefigured many of the policy battles of the present. And we forget that, outside the administration, REAGAN GOT PLENTY OF GRIEF FROM HIS OWN RIGHT AS WELL."

The querulous RICHARD VIGUERIE, for example, an influential but notably unhappy camper in those halcyon days, BEGAN HECTORING THE REAGAN PRESIDENCY ALMOST FROM THE BEGINNING, complaining to the Associated Press in January 1981 that with his cabinet appointments Reagan had given conservatives “the back of his hand.” A July 1981 op-ed by Viguerie in the Washington Post, entitled “For Reagan and the New Right, the Honeymoon Is Over,” was thoughtfully timed less than four months after the President had nearly been killed by an assassin’s bullet.

By December 1987, Viguerie was declaring that Reagan had actually “changed sides” and was “now allied with his former adversaries, the liberals, the Democrats, and the Soviets.” A year later, in the final months of his presidency, when it was clear to all that Reagan had fundamentally changed the terms of debate in American politics, Viguerie announced that, thanks to his tenure in office, “the conservative movement is directionless.”

You can read the entire commentary here:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/cm/main/viewArticle.aip?id=10812&page=all


29 posted on 03/01/2007 7:17:51 PM PST by DrDeb



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13 posted on 03/02/2007 4:54:31 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I agree with most of this.

The conservative movement can function as an interest group, or, better, as a coalition of interest groups. Your analogy with the left and the way they operate is perfect.

But I wonder about your use of the term "Goldwater/Reagan".

Goldwater got crushed. Reagan did the crushing.

There's a reason, and the reason is that Reagan was not a Goldwaterite, or at least he wasn't ONLY a Goldwaterite.

14 posted on 03/02/2007 4:58:18 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: BigSkyFreeper; wouldntbprudent
So I see you don't like Viguerie. But what parts of this speech do you dislike? The main themes are:

1. The GOP has not lived up to its promises, particularly with regard to spending

2. Conservatives need to create advocacy groups to reach out to others and convince them to convert to our ideology

3. Conservatives should do this within the GOP, but not allow the GOP to bully us

Sounds pretty reasonable to me, unless you have a reflexive disdain for all things conservative.

15 posted on 03/02/2007 5:00:49 AM PST by NittanyLion
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We can either wring our hands and worry about the coulda, shoulda, woulda, engaging in naval gazing, while going into yet another election cycle, or destroy liberalism and all it stands for, into the ash heap of history. Conservatism lost the skirmish. Not the entire war on liberalism.


16 posted on 03/02/2007 5:01:43 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: NittanyLion

It is reasonable. How many more election cycles are we going to continue naval gazing?


17 posted on 03/02/2007 5:02:58 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Jim Robinson

We must have a conservative caucus within the Republican Party. You are dead on.


18 posted on 03/02/2007 5:04:26 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Yeah, or we can get behind a conservative and campaign like crazy and we don't have to lose the skirmish.


19 posted on 03/02/2007 5:07:19 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Jim Noble
There's a reason, and the reason is that Reagan was not a Goldwaterite

I beg to differ.

L

20 posted on 03/02/2007 5:08:34 AM PST by Lurker (Calling islam a religion is like calling a car a submarine.)
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