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Reading Hillary Rodham's hidden thesis (Quotes from Free Republic)
MSNBC ^ | 3/2/07 | Bill Dedman

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:01:02 AM PST by AZRepublican

WELLESLEY, Mass. — The senior thesis of Hillary D. Rodham, Wellesley College class of 1969, has been speculated about, spun, analyzed, debated, criticized and defended. But rarely has it been read, because for the eight years of Bill Clinton’s presidency it was locked away.

As forbidden fruit, the writings of a 21-year-old college senior, examining the tactics of radical community organizer Saul D. Alinsky, have gained mythic status among her critics — a “Rosetta Stone,” in the words of one, that would allow readers to decode the thinking of the former first lady and 2008 presidential candidate.

Despite the fervent interest in the thesis, few realize that it is no longer kept under lock and key. As found, it is available to anyone who visits the archive room of the prestigious women’s college outside Boston. With Clinton’s opponents in the 2008 presidential race looking for the next “Swift Boat” attack ad, and the senator herself trying to cast off her liberal image, Clinton's 92-page thesis is certain to be read and reread by opposition researchers and reporters visiting the campus.

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KEYWORDS: acdc; awelleslywench; hildabeast; hillary; hillarythesis; thesis; thunderthighs; wickedwitch
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Interesting thought.

21 posted on 03/02/2007 5:33:03 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; Jim Noble; onyx
Me thinks this author is a liar:

To: ohioWfan

Pray they don't run together. She could finance one heck of a run.

13 posted on 02/11/2007 9:34:59 AM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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Maybe onyx can explain where she got that quote, huh?

And isn't it interesting that Mr. Dedman left out the part about Soros.

22 posted on 03/02/2007 5:33:39 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Savage Beast
I think that is exactly what happened. It wasn't available when HClinton was running for NY Senate, but now it is?
Somebody switched it out and is now trying to present it as the 1969 version. Total Clinton lies and BS.
23 posted on 03/02/2007 5:33:47 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: AZRepublican
Clinton's 92-page thesis

This thing has to be so stultifyingly boring that we probably won't wake up until well into her second term.

24 posted on 03/02/2007 5:33:53 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Jim Noble
"but if you read what I wrote when I was 21 it would tell you nothing about my thinking now."

- But this is no normal university assignment, churned out over the weekend to meet a deadline. It was a 92 page thesis presumably produced after great thought and a thorough review of Alinsky and his writings. The writer of this story goes to great lengths to downplay Alinsky's Marxist teaching while playing up those few instances where Hitlery mildly disagrees with his tactics (but not his objectives).
If this thesis had been done by George Bush, his detractors would be going over it with a fine tooth comb to find evidence of his radicalism and wouldn't hesitate to lift his words out of context to prove it.
25 posted on 03/02/2007 5:34:32 AM PST by finnigan2
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To: Jim Noble; NonValueAdded; All
OTOH, if her thesis is actualized by her recent history and current actions...



This brilliant Alinsky-clinton observation by beyond the sea is the perfect segue to an analysis of Alinsky's influence on hillary clinton... which leads inexorably to hillary rodham's closely guarded Wellesley thesis. (Plan to do an extended piece on that shortly.)

In the Wellesley thesis, hillary discussed "how to change the American political culture." This discussion occurred in the context of a tribute to the leftist political organizer, her mentor, Saul Alinsky.

Does missus clinton reveal her own thoughts on the radicalization and even balkanization of the American political process? We can't yet say with certainty because the thesis has been sealed--closed to public scrutiny--from the moment missus clinton insinuated her radicalizing, balkanizing, liquidating self onto the national political stage.

If I had to guess, I would say she adopted Saul Alinsky's theories and practices without modification: hillary clinton exhibits no creativity, no vision of her own and tends to glom onto the latest fashion, whether it's Alinsky's Stalinist methods... or New Age occultism, recall her attraction to the teachings of

  • Marianne Williamson, who some described as a "Jewish charismatic spiritualist"
  • Ken Scott Nateshvar, yogi to the stars
  • and the pièce de résistance, Jean Houston, the Director of the Foundation for Mind Research.

Houston was described by some as a "New Age" author who "studied psychic experiences and mystical connections to historical figures and other worlds." When the story of the Houston connection became public Houston became known as hillary clinton's "Eleanor Roosevelt Conduit."

Although she baked no cookies, didn't do illicit land or cattle deals and stood by no man, hillary clinton starred in the triple role of the Cook, the Thief and his Wife. Her lover was played at once vaporously and in workmanlike fashion by the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt, with Janet Reno, between her stints rendering intermittent injustice for the Husband, as the reliable stand-in. Sidney Blumenthal was the stand-in for the Cook and Craig Livingstone the stand-in for the Thief. The last-minute addition of Christopher Hitchens as the snitch was a stroke of absolute genius notwithstanding its cerebral accident, its predictable-if-perfect pitch (or its facile alliteration).

by Mia T, January 3, 2006
Alien Abductions, Flying Saucers
+ Other Weird Phenomena, c.1992-2000

There is a great emotional likeness there too. Thank you for putting the photos side by side.

On Alinsky (

For Alinsky, organizing is the process of highlighting what is wrong and convincing people they can actually do something about it. The two are linked. If people feel they don't have the power to change a bad situation, they stop thinking about it.

According to Alinsky, the organizer -- especially a paid organizer from outside -- must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility. Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy. This is necessary to get people to participate. An organizer has to attack apathy and disturb the prevailing patterns of complacent community life where people have simply come to accept a bad situation. Alinsky would say, "The first step in community organization is community disorganization."--beyond the sea

26 posted on 03/02/2007 5:36:13 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Jim Noble
Do you believe that that Bill Clinton's letter to his draft board and the efforts he made to avoid the draft were germane in 1992 and 1996? Does it matter if Bill or Obama used cocaine in their 20s? Would it matter if a candidate had a felony on his record that he committed when he was 21? Or that he/she belonged to the KKK or Communist party when they were in their 20s? Was it germane/relevant that Kerry's antiwar activities [when he was in his mid twenties] be brought up?

Is your objection about Hillary's thesis connected to the length of time that has elapsed or the age of the candidate at the time? What is the standard that determines relevancy for any such information?

To me, it her thesis could be related to policy positions she currently holds, e.g., socialized health care, then her thesis is relevant and should be examined and exploited.

27 posted on 03/02/2007 5:36:15 AM PST by kabar
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To: AZRepublican
Wellesley College is a very easy drive from me.I think I'll go down today and take a peek.
28 posted on 03/02/2007 5:36:46 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: Jim Noble
The thought that all the crap I wrote down when I was in college could be the measure of me 35 years later is chilling, and absurd.

True, but it would still be a useful data point, if only to demonstrate how far your views had changed.

When I was 15 or 16, Saul Alinsky was invited to speak at my high school. He was treated like royalty (although I'm not sure that I fully grasped the meaning of his brand of politics) and I shot two rolls of Kodachrome portraits of him while he was speaking. When I was 20, I was a registered Democrat and I thought that libertarians were wierdos (well, there's a contingent on FR that still thinks that libertarians are wierdos). By the time that I was 21, though, I had had my epiphany and was well on my way towards my current brand of politics. The change in my thinking by age 21 mirrored my growing understanding of the world and the maturing of my intellect. Can't say that about Hillary, though...

29 posted on 03/02/2007 5:38:29 AM PST by Zeppo (We live in the Age of Stupidity. [Dennis Prager])
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To: zot; The Shrew; Nick Danger


30 posted on 03/02/2007 5:47:10 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Jim Noble
if you read what I wrote when I was 21 it would tell you nothing about my thinking now.

It can even be frightening to read my own FR posts from last year. lol

31 posted on 03/02/2007 5:47:44 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: onyx; Howlin; AZRepublican
Just last month, an anonymous commentator lamented on the conservative Web site Free Republic, "She's a Marxist. Saul Alinsky's student. I sure wish we could unearth that sealed thesis of hers that she wrote at Wellesley."

See the actual post by onyx referenced in the MSNBC article.

32 posted on 03/02/2007 5:54:25 AM PST by Zeppo (We live in the Age of Stupidity. [Dennis Prager])
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To: AZRepublican
I remember writing one of these things in college.

The instructor I had was a commie pinhead.

I intentionally wrote a thesis that would sound like he had written.

I got my A and wondered if the commie-pinhead knew that he had been duped.

33 posted on 03/02/2007 5:55:14 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Zeppo; onyx; Howlin

Looks like onyx has a following :-)

34 posted on 03/02/2007 5:58:20 AM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: AZRepublican
If you want the short course on Hilary, and Mr. Bill, just rent the old Penthouse film, 'Caligula.'
35 posted on 03/02/2007 6:00:45 AM PST by Leisler (REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS WALK.)
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To: Jim Noble
It was sickening enough to read the first couple of chapters of her biography. The one she got all those millions of dollars for, right before she became a senator.

You will have the measure of the student and the adult she's become by reading with a careful eye.

36 posted on 03/02/2007 6:01:03 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Let's hope your pearls of wisdom did not include attacking your own country.

37 posted on 03/02/2007 6:02:01 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: Zeppo; onyx; Mo1

Wow, Zeppo, your post is why I love FR; I looked for it and couldn't find it! Fabulous.

Won't onyx be surprised when she wakes up and discovers she's an "anonymous commentator?"

38 posted on 03/02/2007 6:05:40 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: AZRepublican
As I read the comments below, I see many discounting this document. They do so so at their Conservative intellectual and tactical peril.

The Wellesley years are critical to understanding Hillary, and especially to understanding why she is so dangerous.

She entered that very exclusive women's school a church-going, rather asexual, moderately conservative Republican. She left Wellesley a actively gay-friendly radical leftist, bent on the destruction of the United States, or at least the destruction of its then-current form of government.

Along with her valedictory diatribe against Senator Edward Brooke, a Black republican from Massachusetts, these documents are both "birth certificates" and early life histories of the Hillary we see today.... and they are more. They are a road map to 1992... and 2008

Along with her first experiences with the radical priest who took her to see MLK, these are the years that made Hillary what she is today. Her years since have made her more brittle, more hate-filled and more skilled at hiding her true feelings, but never forget that these documents record the thoughts, plans and dreams of a far-left intellectual toddler in the first years of her radical life.

These years were filled with campus radicalism, all night "bull sessions" with her roommates; women who have now openly "come out," and her own dreams of "mattering."

Most of us were smart enough to follow the dictate to "as an adult, put away childish things." Hillary has only become more committed to the sophomoric and sapphic logic that permeated her college days.

In addition, she is even more angry at the world because of the price she paid to become a public figure. Hillary without Bill would be a boring lawyer, stuck in some nameless government agency. Hillary with Bill became a public figure, and a woman who is, deep in her soul, embarrassed to her core every day by the man who fathered the child she needed for the public's acceptance of her "mother" role.

She has not changed one iota. She has simply become more skilled at hiding her beleifs and plans. To read these documents will be to read a CAT scan of her plans for "Hillary's America.".

This is simply Mein Kampf, Passages, Communist Manifesto and Run Spot, Run; Run Hillary, Run..... all rolled into one insult to America.

39 posted on 03/02/2007 6:07:39 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: AZRepublican; onyx; kcvl; STARWISE

Yes, it does!

and STARWISE and kcvl were nice enough to provide the Cliff Notes of the thesis in the following posts!

Long live FR!!

40 posted on 03/02/2007 6:08:00 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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