Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming

National Geographic News ^

[WBL 1952]

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human- induced—cause.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

[Robert A Cook PE]

See?

Even his chart slows the temperature has "leveled off" since Bush became president!

Seriously.

Do you see the BOTTOM of the recent "red" lines - the lines that are high-lighted as IF they were filled in from 0 to the current temp increase of .3 degrees? On the REAL chart from NASA for troposphere temperatures (which is what this character has warped for his purposes) the red lines are the max-min points for each year. They are NOT filled in like he has done. They do NOT show a continuous rise since 1980.

They do NOT show a "0" point at 1980 - a LOW point in NASA's graph!

This graph from the warmer socialist is a LIE. Temperatures since the 1998 peak have been up and down, but have NOT increased since that period: they are steady, but cycling up AND DOWN around the same point they were 8 years ago.

[metmom]

Gore may get doctorate (Univ.Of Minnesota, and Liberalism, CRAZY GORE ALERT )

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1788124/posts

To the guy who invented the internet.

[metmom]

Yeah, it's kind of hard selling *global warming* when people are digging out from a blizzard in -20 degree weather.

[neverdem]

thanks, bfl

[jonno]

GW bump

[secretagent]

On the REAL chart from NASA for troposphere temperatures (which is what this character has warped for his purposes) the red lines are the max-min points for each year. They are NOT filled in like he has done. They do NOT show a continuous rise since 1980.

Gristmill ("How to talk to skeptic") got the graph shown from the Climate Research Unit, School of Environmental Sciences University of East Anglia:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/

I haven't clicked on all their links, so I don't know where they got their data, and so can't agree or disagree on their having falsified the NASA data.

They do NOT show a "0" point at 1980 - a LOW point in NASA's graph!

What NASA graph?

I think CRU set the "0" point at 1939, not 1980:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/gtc2005.csv

[William Terrell]

Hints? It pretty much screams it out ot my ears.

[secretagent]

Thanks AG.

[Robert A Cook PE]

It's not so much that "falsified" NASA data, more that they (deliberately) are presenting it from "zero" points and in a graph format that shows the wrong conclusion. So you see large red lines, but not the declines and drops.

You "see" a huge increase, but the actual increase is LESS THAN 1/2 of one degree. Make sense?

[A. Pole]

Must be those Sport Utility Vehicles charging over the dunes of Mars.

Bingo! Ali Gorat would agree.

[DouglasKC]

Sun causes global warming. Who'd have thunk?

[steelyourfaith]

ping

[secretagent]

So you see large red lines, but not the declines and drops.

I see short and tall red lines and blue lines, and thick and thin red and blue lines:

Declines and drops - do you mean the black trend line doesn't decline and dip where it should?

[LeGrande]

PTT

[Buzwardo]

BTTT

[Arrowhead1952]

Gore may get doctorate (Univ.Of Minnesota, and Liberalism, CRAZY GORE ALERT )

That is too rich. I think Algore has lost the last brain cells he has with his global warming theory.

[A. Pole]

How this graph looks for the previous ten centuries?

[reg45]

George W. Bush owns the Hummer franchise on Mars.

[AlexW]

"Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures."

Nothing new here. I have been hearing it for over a year, but the Global Warming thought police, keep a lid on it.
It is no wonder that so many people are ignorant about the facts of climate change.
Ask anyone about the MWP, you will get a blank stare.