Giuliani Speaks at CPAC (CSPAN) LIVE

CSPAN ^ | 3/1/07

[areafiftyone]

All day today we are covering speakers and panels at the 34th Annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, DC. This morning, we'll hear from Republican presidential hopeful former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. He will be followed by Reps. Scott Garrett (NJ), Tom Tancredo (CO), and others.

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[EternalVigilance]

I never lied, I lost count of the times you said you were leaving, or had left.

See. Another lie.

[metalurgist]

Besides continuing to champion the defense of America, FR just might become the "Conservative Conscience of the Republican Party," ie, we may become a real thorn in the side of moderate/liberal Republicanism.

Sign me up Mr Robinson. Here's hoping the Ghoulie-annies have to spit after they say my screen name by the time the primaries start.

[dirtboy]

"It's NOT your discussion or mine. "

Once again, please show me where I cannot respond to an FR post.

[Jim Robinson]

How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I'm referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I'm afraid that's going to piss off some folks.

[BigSkyFreeper]

I shouldn't have to apologize for you flip-flopping on your principles. 

To: EternalVigilance

I didn't lie. You said you were going to leave the GOP. I figured you stood by your principles and followed your heart and leave. I didn't think you would become a flip-flopper. I shouldn't have to apologize for that, even though I remember you said you were leaving the GOP almost 2 years ago.

138 posted on 03/02/2007 11:23:50 AM MST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)

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Which of course you didn't respond to.

I didn't lie. You said you were going to leave the GOP. I figured you stood by your principles and followed your heart and leave. I didn't think you would become a flip-flopper. I shouldn't have to apologize for that, even though I remember you said you were leaving the GOP almost 2 years ago.

[trisham]

Unfortunately, it probably won't.

[Dog Gone]

Good post. Come back again.

[Sunsong]

Once again, please show me where I cannot respond to an FR post.

Do you need a rule in order to act like a respectful person? And if so, isn't that the way liberals think?

[Jim Robinson]

Right on! Couldn't have said it better myself.

[dirtboy]

"Do you need a rule in order to act like a respectful person?"

Coming from you, that's pretty funny.

[SJackson]

It strikes our funny bones that grown men are so sensitive and needing to bring in the "big guy" because they just can't stand the thought that we support a Republican they don't like.

Grown as in age, or emotionally? I see lots of college freshmen here.

Now I'm posting pictures.

[trisham]

As I said in a previous post, I haven't decided if I will support Guiliani in the primaries yet, but nothing you have posted has given me a good reason to NOT support him.......Hmmmmmmmmm

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Seriously, are you joking?

[M. Thatcher]

Let's make a deal right now...if Guiliani wins, we go to his inauguration!

Oh, man, I am SO planning to be there. Is it rude for me to try to drop in on your party?

[onyx]

Reply all you want but the question was NOT posed to you.

It was a serious question posed to Jim.

He can answer for himself.


GROW UP --- not every post or question warrants a reply by you. I'll wager you wear out a set of knee pads every day.

[Sunsong]

Can't answer the question?

[BigSkyFreeper]

Oh, man, I am SO planning to be there. Is it rude for me to try to drop in on your party?

More the merrier.

[EternalVigilance]

Hang it up. Your twisting and lying is getting you nowhere.

[dirtboy]

"I'll wager you wear out a set of knee pads every day. "

All this from someone bemoaning the lack of civility.

Maybe you could edit the FR mission statement into something more acceptable for you and share it with us.

[pogo101]

It's not really my place to say, USM, but I think JR means essentially that FR is a place that is usually Republican but only to the extent that such (Republican support) supports conservatism.

Of course no candidate, republican or otherwise, combines the perfect array of 100% conservative views with good speaking and writing ability, good leadership and good administrative skills -- and, unfortunately perhaps, good fundraising ability.

But the question always arises, Where do you draw the line? Is Rudy too far left to be supported (in the general, I mean)?

For some, probably including me, the answer is a reluctant no, a decision to go with "Democrat prevention." For JR and others, it's too unbearable as a matter of conscience.

[USMMA_83]

That's all fair and fine. So, you find a few posters here who are not your "die-hard" conservatives. Do you push them away, or attempt to sway them, educate them to our point of view? Your current stand only alienates them and then what do you achieve. A more conservative site. Yes, but a site that is no longer in the game. You are on the outside looking in. How does that achieve anything other than abject failure, albeit a principled one.