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It's Game On In Ramadi: Long Awaited Operation Underway, Fierce Fighting in Center of City
Iraq Slogger ^ | March 2 2007 | ROBERT Y. PELTON

Posted on 03/02/2007 9:56:46 AM PST by jmc1969

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To: Domicile of Doom

Whose next in your world, Hindus?


61 posted on 03/02/2007 2:18:51 PM PST by Patriot Hooligan ("God have mercy on my enemies because I won't." General George S. Patton)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That is what I meant when I said earlier that Rumsfield and Abaizaid didn't want to win the war, they wanted to slide out of Iraq.


62 posted on 03/02/2007 2:20:07 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: MichaelP
Rumsfeld was focused on modernizing his military to meet the threat imposed by China.

He did not see Iraq as a serious problem and wanted to leave the country.

63 posted on 03/02/2007 2:20:58 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That about covers what happened. It was clear in 2004 and 2005 we needed more troops and a bigger Army. But, Rumsfield put his Transformation plan ahead of the urgent need for a bigger Army.


64 posted on 03/02/2007 2:30:00 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: Patriot Hooligan

If need be


65 posted on 03/02/2007 2:31:57 PM PST by Domicile of Doom
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To: taxcontrol
NOTHING will ever replace boots on the ground.

True, but precision guided munitions, liberally applied, can make the "boots" job much easier and safer.

66 posted on 03/02/2007 3:04:14 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Domicile of Doom
Aviation leaves no prisoners, and very little ground to do anything with.

Actually, it can leave the ground pre-plowed and ready for planting... even if was a city before the aviators did their thing. :)

67 posted on 03/02/2007 3:06:44 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Thombo2
Wonder if they'd get their ticket punched by Allah and the complimentary 72 virgins?

I'm sure it would be considered premature Jihadization. No Virgins for them, especially considering they didn't get to take any infidels with them.

Run a few hogs into the building with them, so that if the booby traps go off, their bodies will be all intermixed with those of the pigs.

Kinda cruel to the pigs, but those are the breaks. :)

68 posted on 03/02/2007 3:09:53 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Stentor
Pay them by the scalp.

In that part of the world, I think the usual practice is to require the full head, not just the scalp. :)

69 posted on 03/02/2007 3:12:06 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jmc1969

God speed to our men there. My nephew is a Navy Corpsman stationed in Ramadi...hopes and prayers go up daily. He has two small children and we pray for his and all of the men there!


70 posted on 03/02/2007 4:37:57 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: jmc1969

Roger that.


71 posted on 03/02/2007 4:39:19 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Kathy in Alaska; SandRat; All

The sector has already been cleared..They're handing out humanitarian aid now..These guys are fast..The 1-9 kicks butt


72 posted on 03/02/2007 4:40:42 PM PST by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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To: jmc1969

ping


73 posted on 03/02/2007 4:42:03 PM PST by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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To: USS Alaska
"...what in the hell were we doing?"
The issue is more what the hell was Maliki and his crew thinking. Our soldiers, Marines and some Iraqi units had started to cordon off the lower part of the city to the extent people where fleeing to temp refuge camps in anticipation of a long bloody battle.
The US had the go for it, the Iraqi said no. Almost every miscalculation in Iraq is not of the US forces but of the reluctance of the IG to allow us to rid their country earlier on of the hadji.
Finally, Maliki has been forced into submission. Ever since we have seen Iraqi start to realize they must take strong actions against all forms of the insurgency and the sectarian elements that have allowed the L/MSM so much free news in the way of bloody attacks, we now see them willing to allow Iraqi soldiers blood to be spilled to retake their country from the goon squads. The tide has finally changed.
74 posted on 03/02/2007 4:46:41 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: taxed2death
My sentiments mirror yours on both points.

Not being more ruthless in the beginning has cost more lives, even those of Iraqi civilians.

It is immoral not to allow self defense on the part of our soldiers.

75 posted on 03/02/2007 4:51:29 PM PST by happygrl
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To: vigilante2


76 posted on 03/02/2007 4:55:37 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ God Bless and Protect Our Brave Protectors of Freedom~)
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To: Thombo2

"Instead of shipping the insurgents off to Club Gitmo,have them enter the houses.Feedback?"

The UN has decried this as an Israeli tactic. Catch a PLO terrorist and force him to open doors as the Israeli's lie in wait.

The UN said this is illegal. The UN can STFU.


77 posted on 03/02/2007 5:04:10 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: pissant; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...
FR WAR NEWS!

WAR News at Home and Abroad You'll Hear Nowhere Else!

All the News the MSM refuses to use!

Or if they do report it, without the anti-War Agenda Spin!

78 posted on 03/02/2007 6:07:19 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Blowtorch
Thoughts of joe terrorist: "Well, for every one of us they kill, we will kill 10 of our own people, especially women and children. Yeah, that will show them."

The people they are killing aren't really their people. Joe is from out of town. And the more he kills the locals, the more the locals see that Joe is friend to no man.

79 posted on 03/02/2007 6:24:15 PM PST by magslinger (Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good.)
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To: jmc1969

Prayers up for our Freedom Fighters and all the Iraqis with them.


80 posted on 03/02/2007 6:40:01 PM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand The Storm!)
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