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Expert in Russian poisoning case is shot
NBC News ^ | March 2 2007 | Pete Williams

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:25:46 PM PST by jmc1969

Edited on 03/02/2007 6:14:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: jmc1969
I think you are all looking at this wrong. The Russians didn't wack the guy. Dateline did. It turns out he was an Italian plumber from Jersey and not an expert on poisons.

Well...just a thought.
61 posted on 03/04/2007 9:41:45 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: NorCalRepub; digger48 I'll have to stick needles in my eyes

What eyes? Mine immediately burned to nothing!

And where did she get that necklace - Woolworth's?

62 posted on 03/04/2007 9:46:04 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Yaelle

Drudge is part of the MSM now. He gets 14 million hits a day and cannot be stopped.

63 posted on 03/04/2007 9:56:25 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: dr_lew

I thought I explained that already.

If a person speaks out very publicly, saying "Putin's guys did it", and you want the public to believe that, because you or your guys actually did it with the objective of making people believe Putin was responsible, what better way to reinforce the widespread conviction that "Putin's guys did it" than by promptly offing the guy who said publicly "Putin's guys did it"? Remember, Litvinenko had also very publicly said Putin's guys were trying to kill him -- next thing you know, he's dead.

I have more than a little trouble believing that Putin and his operatives are stupid enough to repeatedly make themselves look like vicious political assassins by offing prominent people very shortly after they've spoken out publicly to accuse Putin & Co. of being vicious political assassins. I think there's a better than even chance that Putin's guys did NOT do either killing, and that the responsible parties' chief objective is to destabilize Putin's regime for their own gain, by making the world believe he's a ruthless power-gripper who has a worldwide network of operatives who can get away with offing high profile people who credibly speak out against him.

The total effect of these incidents and the public perception of them is to WEAKEN Putin's power in the international political community. I have to wonder why Putin and his guys would want to do that. And I don't really believe that they're such a bunch of bumblers that they are accomplishing that result unintentionally, especially since there is now a pattern of repeating the same power-weakening procedure in an almost identical manner to the previous round.

64 posted on 03/04/2007 9:59:58 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Grazhdanin

Maybe. But I'm having trouble with the concept that Putin and his operatives are that stupid.

There is of course, a third possibility, and that is that Putin & Co. ARE responsible, and are deliberately going about this in a way that, if the pattern continues, will convince the world that some powerful and vicious anti-Putin operatives are trying to frame him.

And a fourth: that parties who Putin believes are loyal to him, but actually are not, are doing this to convince Putin himself that he has very powerful enemies who are successfully framing him to undermine his power. This would make Putin more susceptible to being manipulated by underlings with ulterior motives, into doing things that he previously declined their advice to do. "See, we told you so."

65 posted on 03/04/2007 10:12:20 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
What utter horsefeathers. Putin is transparently ordering the assassination of anybody he pleases in broad daylight, and idiot shills like you are making up excuses for him.
66 posted on 03/04/2007 11:08:51 AM PST by JasonC
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I insist on my simple theory that Putin is stupid and/or crazy.
Do not gas-wars with Russia's neighbours, especially Ukraine after the Orange revolution, bring Putin only ill fame and therefore weaken his influence?
Did the demolition of YUKOS do any good to Putin's international reputation or, more important, to Russia's economy's reputation, with the collapse of the stock market and the capital outflow?
Do the latest reforms in the russian government, slowly eating away the remains of democracy, help his international image?

He either doesn't realize or doesn't care.
Did Stalin or Hitler care much about how they looked to the rest of the world?
Of course this is because they both were perfectly sure they'd eventually seize the world anyway so why care about image. But who can guarantee Putin is not that sick? It seem to me he's quite unpredictable.

67 posted on 03/04/2007 11:19:22 AM PST by Grazhdanin
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To: Yaelle
Why isn't this front page news? MSM doesn't want to be "judgemental" about the Russians? Socialists sticking together?

If this has been 20 years ago, it would have been all over the front pages of the major newspapers.
68 posted on 03/04/2007 11:46:14 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Babu
>Speaking any ill of the Putin regime publicly seems to have gotten to be hazardous

All the folks dying
are either reporters or
"experts" who use their

"professional" roles
to play political games.
I'm kind of happy

both kinds of people
are finding out politics
has consequences.

69 posted on 03/04/2007 11:52:33 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: padre35
This is surprising, even during the Cold War shooting people on the streets of DC was the stuff of John Lecarre' books.

Mostly true

70 posted on 03/04/2007 11:57:26 AM PST by wideminded
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To: jmc1969
Expert in Russian poisoning case is shot

Most people in this thread are assuming this man died. According to the article he is in the hospital.

71 posted on 03/04/2007 12:01:08 PM PST by wideminded
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