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Mother 'feared children would be taken away' [Belgium]
The Telegraph ^ | 2 March 2007 | By Bruno Waterfield in Nivelles

Posted on 03/02/2007 6:12:15 PM PST by BlackVeil

Mother kills her five children

A Belgian mother who cut the throats of her five children before trying to commit suicide may have feared her Moroccan husband was preparing to take them out of the country.

Answering an emergency call, police found Genevieve Lhermitte, 51, “in a blood bath”, with bloodstained hands and a wound to the chest at her family home in the town of Nivelles.

Her four daughters, Yasmine, 14, Nora 12, Myriam, 10, Mina, 8, and son Mehdi, 3, had all been stabbed to death and the mother had called the emergency services after an apparent attempt to kill herself with the same weapon.

Police found all the children upstairs, lying on a bed.

Local reports said there were signs of resistance from the eldest girl Yasmine.

The children’s father, Bouchaib Mokadem, 43, was not in Belgium at the time of the killings but was told of the tragedy by police officers at Brussels airport yesterday.

He is being treated for shock and psychological distress.

The mother, said to be receiving treatment for depression for the last six years had failed to keep a appointment with a psychiatrist last Friday, is currently in a serious condition, but out of danger.

Neighbours and school teachers report that the Mokadems were on the surface a happy family.

But darker currents have emerged as the investigation gets under way, with allegations that the father planned to take the children to Morocco without their mother’s blessing.

Mrs Mokadem - under Belgian law she officially retains her maiden name Lhermitte - has been described as “submissive” and “moulded”.

Teachers were astonished when the oldest child, Yasmine, appeared upset at school wearing a head scarf.

In a newspaper interview, Catherine Lhermitte said her sister seemed to have reached “the end of the ride” during a phone conversation on Tuesday.

“My God, it is not possible. What despair! What an act of despair for a mother like her to want to take her children with her,” she told La Derniere Heure.

The killings have shaken Belgium and raised questions as to why social services had not become involved with the family.

Pierre Huart, one of the mayors in Nivelles, a town with a population of 25,000 about 20 miles from Brussels, said: “The children were all at school and the father had a good job. There is nothing to explain this tragedy.”

Bernard Goethals, a spokesman for the public prosecutor’s office in Nivelles, said the woman had “mentioned her plan” in a letter addressed to a friend in the town — a suicide note that had been delivered after the deaths.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: belgium; childmurder; crime
Susan Smith must wish she had a Muslim in her family somewhere ... she could have blamed it all on them.
1 posted on 03/02/2007 6:12:17 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Muhammad scores a near shut-out.


2 posted on 03/02/2007 6:15:20 PM PST by Steely Tom
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To: Steely Tom

"There is nothing to explain this." YES, there is. Islam. HellO, Belgium.... Earth to Belgium.


3 posted on 03/02/2007 6:23:36 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: BlackVeil
A Belgian mother who cut the throats of her five children before trying to commit suicide may have feared her Moroccan husband was preparing to take them out of the country.

Even if there was merit to that point, she is the idiot who married a muslim.

4 posted on 03/02/2007 6:29:03 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: BlackVeil

Never marry a Muslim.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 7:01:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Rodney King

Let's be fair to the guy unless/until we know more. He may have been eager to get them away from their dangerously insane mother, and feared that Belgian courts would automatically award her custody if he split with her. They certainly would have been safer with their father in Morocco than they were with their mother in Belgium. It's not even clear that he actually WAS planning to take the children to Morocco. The article just mentions "allegations" that he had such a plan, without citing any source. Perhaps the source was the mother's letter to her friend -- if so, the source was a woman who just murdered her 5 children by slashing their throats, and I'd definitely want corroboration from a sane person before assuming the allegation to be true. Morocco isn't a hotbed of extremist Islam. And I can't help that recall that Andrea Yates was an even crazier religious fanatic than her husband, and she had exactly the same idea of what would be "better" for her children.


7 posted on 03/02/2007 7:02:02 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Let's be fair to the guy unless/until we know more.

Don't get in the way of the mob.

8 posted on 03/02/2007 7:05:33 PM PST by mgstarr (I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.)
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To: John Williams
Muhammad is just as pleased with the deaths of infidels as he is with their conversions.

Actually, this is a case where the children were killed by a Christian, who uses as her excuse, that she did not want them living in Morocco.

9 posted on 03/02/2007 7:09:15 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: GovernmentShrinker

yeah, good points.


10 posted on 03/02/2007 7:11:49 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: BlackVeil
True Tales from the Religion of Peace
11 posted on 03/02/2007 7:15:54 PM PST by vox humana
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To: GovernmentShrinker
And I can't help that recall that Andrea Yates was an even crazier religious fanatic than her husband, and she had exactly the same idea of what would be "better" for her children.

Completely correct.

Little is known of the Moroccan husband, except that he had a job as a travelling sales rep for a pharmecutical company, he was said to earn a good salary, and he had been away from home for the past few weeks as he was visiting Morrocco.

He collapsed at the airport, when given the news. On the face of it, he seems worthy of sympathy.

12 posted on 03/02/2007 7:25:19 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: GovernmentShrinker

The fact that she hacked to death her five children sure supports your point.

She was insane, and even if her husband was going to (do anything) it couldn't equal the mass murder of the children.


13 posted on 03/02/2007 8:11:45 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: BlackVeil

"Actually, this is a case where the children were killed by a Christian"




She was a Christian?


14 posted on 03/02/2007 8:14:39 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: BlackVeil

"Actually, this is a case where the children were killed by a Christian, who uses as her excuse, that she did not want them living in Morocco"





It turns out she is Muslim, which makes sense.


15 posted on 03/02/2007 8:38:08 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12
I have looked this up, and while the Dutch newspaper De Morgen says that she converted to Islam after her marriage, the Belgian media (dhnet.be) states that she did not.

Genevieve is a characteristically Catholic name, and the children went to Catholic schools, l'Institut Sainte-Gertrude and l'Institut Saint-Michel.

16 posted on 03/02/2007 9:17:18 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Like I said, she is Muslim.


17 posted on 03/02/2007 10:16:53 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12
I am waiting for more information on that.

It says:

Il s'agissait d'un couple mixte belgo-marocain, Geneviève ayant adopté la culture de son mari sans pour autant être convertie à l'Islam.

They were a mixed couple, Belgian-Moroccan Genevieve having accepted the culture of her husband without however having converted to Islam. This report may be mistaken, but from all descriptions, she sounds native-born Belgian to me.

18 posted on 03/02/2007 11:07:12 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil; ansel12
This report may be mistaken, but from all descriptions, she sounds native-born Belgian to me.



Johnny Walker Linde was a native born Californian.
19 posted on 03/02/2007 11:16:09 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: BlackVeil; Grizzled Bear

"This report may be mistaken, but from all descriptions, she sounds native-born Belgian to me."






Belgium is a country, not a religion.

You do know what a Christian is, don't you?


20 posted on 03/02/2007 11:39:09 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12

I know that Christianity teaches hope. From all I have read (actual study) I don't see that prevalent in Islam.


21 posted on 03/03/2007 8:00:49 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

"I know that Christianity teaches hope. From all I have read (actual study) I don't see that prevalent in Islam."






Yes the fruits of the Mohammedan death cult is reflected in the sad, mindless, ugliness of the people living under it's death grip, the world can only help those back wards countries by bringing hope and God to them.


22 posted on 03/03/2007 10:06:33 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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