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Gilmore to reveal 'false' conservatives
Washington Times ^ | March 2, 2007 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 03/02/2007 9:00:43 PM PST by FairOpinion

Former Virginia Gov. James S. Gilmore III will become the first Republican presidential contender to say publicly that the three top-ranked party candidates are phony conservatives.

Mr. Gilmore singles out former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and Sen. John McCain of Arizona in an ad that will be posted tomorrow on YouTube.com and his campaign Web site (www.gilmoreforpresident.com) as well as e-mailed to likely voters in the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucuses.

"The three leading challengers for our party's nomination may be good men, but they simply do not share our conservative values," Mr. Gilmore says in the ad.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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Anyone ready to switch over to "true conservative" Gilmore? ;)
1 posted on 03/02/2007 9:00:45 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Contender?


2 posted on 03/02/2007 9:01:39 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: FairOpinion

Whiner.


3 posted on 03/02/2007 9:01:47 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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"Mr. Gilmore, considered a philosophical conservative who believes in limited government, individual liberties and non-intervention abroad except when directly threatened."

Another Pat Buchanan, it seems.

4 posted on 03/02/2007 9:02:26 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Did you see this?


5 posted on 03/02/2007 9:02:35 PM PST by ecurbh (Giuliani 2008 - http://www.rudygforamerica.com/)
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To: FairOpinion

Not today.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 9:03:04 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
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To: FairOpinion

I guess if no one's paying attention to your campaign, you have to trash the other candidates to get noticed.


7 posted on 03/02/2007 9:03:13 PM PST by ilovew ("Sure I am of this, that you have only to endure to conquer." --Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: FairOpinion
For a second I thought the article referred to


8 posted on 03/02/2007 9:03:51 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: FairOpinion
DUNCAN HUNTER!
9 posted on 03/02/2007 9:04:00 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: FairOpinion

No, Buchanan is funny, Gilmore is a joke.


10 posted on 03/02/2007 9:05:31 PM PST by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: neverhillorat

Do you know anything about his legacy?

http://jimgilmore08.com/legacy.html


11 posted on 03/02/2007 9:07:41 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: airborne
Hope you realize that Hunter is a practicing heterosexual and brags about it.
12 posted on 03/02/2007 9:07:57 PM PST by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: ecurbh; BunnySlippers; PhiKapMom; FairOpinion; areafiftyone; DKNY; Peach; My GOP; My2Cents
Did you see this?

No, but it doesn't surprise me. Gilmore's best friend is is own ego.

He would have gone nowhere had it not been for the popularity of George Allen. And his "No Car Tax" scheme, while brilliant campaign strategy, was horrible policy and it ultimately led to Governor Mark Warner and Governor Tim Kaine.

Gilmore won't carry Virginia. Not even in the primaries. He doesn't even have the "true conservatives" in Virginia. That's evidenced by the fact that Jerry Kilgore is Rudy's chair here.

13 posted on 03/02/2007 9:08:32 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Al Gore needs to reduce his carbon butt-print.)
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To: All

It's real easy to trash folks when you're an anonymous poster.


14 posted on 03/02/2007 9:08:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: neverhillorat

What a coincidence. So am I!


15 posted on 03/02/2007 9:09:28 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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Former Virginia Gov. James S. Gilmore III will become the first Republican presidential contender to say publicly that the three top-ranked party candidates are phony conservatives.

I've been pulling for Gilmore since he announced. Looks like he's taking the gloves off and trying to garner some press coverage. He's certainly correct when he calls the frontrunners fake conservatives. Because they are fake conservatives.

16 posted on 03/02/2007 9:10:19 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: FairOpinion

Limited Government?

Individual Liberties?

Non-intervention?


Sounds good on paper. The last guy elected POTUS inflated government big time.


17 posted on 03/02/2007 9:10:44 PM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: NormsRevenge

I know his "legacy."


18 posted on 03/02/2007 9:10:50 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Al Gore needs to reduce his carbon butt-print.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Do you know anything about his legacy? "
Let his legacy be sorted out by the probate court and estate attorneys, for that's their job to sort out legacies.
19 posted on 03/02/2007 9:11:29 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Corin Stormhands

Oh, so what is on his web site is all fabrications, huh? :-)


20 posted on 03/02/2007 9:12:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gilmore was a very good Governor but would get killed by the Rats and, excuse me, he`s not very dynamic. The joke is that he has zero chance of winning and if he starts the negative junk against other Republican candidates, he ain`t helping.
21 posted on 03/02/2007 9:12:44 PM PST by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: FairOpinion

Im still waiting for him to eliminate virginias car tax as promised.


22 posted on 03/02/2007 9:13:25 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: neverhillorat

No doubt, but does that mean that only a few have a right to voice their opinions and bear the brunt of it.

seems some here would prefer a vacuum for a sound stage..


23 posted on 03/02/2007 9:14:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Gilmore needs to just fade away. Who cares what he has to say?


24 posted on 03/02/2007 9:15:35 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: PhiKapMom

Can he claim a Full Moon exemption?

Who cares, indeed. lol


25 posted on 03/02/2007 9:18:36 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: FairOpinion

Gilmore speaks the truth.. Wonder how many freepers can't handle the truth..


26 posted on 03/02/2007 9:20:51 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Gilmore won't make it to the primaries. He will have the same fate as Vilsack.


27 posted on 03/02/2007 9:22:57 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Another Pat Buchanan, it seems.

I smell hypocrisy.

"Schwarzenegger, who was invited for dinner at the White House, joined congressional Democrats in the Iraq debate saying the United States needs a clear timetable for redeploying troops from Iraq."

http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read/65506

28 posted on 03/02/2007 9:23:08 PM PST by Mojave
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh no. There's a certain amount of truth there. But I'm a Virginian, I lived through the real story.

Gilmore's legacy was creating a "No Car Tax" scheme. For all the hoopla you hear about how he "eliminated" it, it still exists.

And the fact is, it never went away. The campaign strategy for the "No Car Tax" plan was brilliant. But they walked into office not having a clue as to how they would implement the plan.

Ultimately they did pass the plan. And here's how it works.

Before the plan if you owed $500 in car tax, you paid that to the locality.

After the plan, depending on the percetage of the current reducation (let's use 50%) ~ you still are assessed the $500 in tax on your vehicle. However, since we are at the 50% rate, you pay $250. THE STATE pays the other $250 to the locality on your behalf.

So, the bottom line is that the state is paying half of your taxes. It's not a car tax reduction program. It's an entitlement program for car owners.

Thus, state spending increased significantly. And while there was a surplus, it allowed the Democrats to seize the issue and pound away the "fact" that the state was out of money.

So, in 2001, we lost to Mark Warner who pushed through the largest tax increase in the history of the Commonwealth.

Gilmore was already following his national ambitions while still Governor. He was named the chair of the RNC.

Because of this he was frequently gone. For a good while he was referred to as "Governor Gone More."

As chair of the RNC that year, he managed to preside over the GOP losing the Governor's races in New Jersey and Virginia, his home state.

That's the "legacy" I remember.


29 posted on 03/02/2007 9:24:04 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Al Gore needs to reduce his carbon butt-print.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I'd trade his legacy and debtload for the one our current gub will leave us..


30 posted on 03/02/2007 9:25:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: FairOpinion

Really .. we're not stupid .. we can tell who the REAL conservatives are .. we don't need a Savior to point them out to us.


31 posted on 03/02/2007 9:27:37 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: airborne

There has been a lot of talk about you and your kind here.


32 posted on 03/02/2007 9:33:29 PM PST by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: NormsRevenge

Give it a rest Norm, you know we can't beat the dems unless we run a liberal repub against them. (/s)


33 posted on 03/02/2007 9:33:37 PM PST by umgud (I did not sleep with Anna Nicole)
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To: FairOpinion

Come on in James - or can I call you Jim - Jimmy - Jimmy crack corn - the Jimster..... HELLO!


34 posted on 03/02/2007 9:35:15 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: umgud

Oh, heck, OK, but I do so enjoy playing Devil's Advocate. ;-)


35 posted on 03/02/2007 9:35:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe so, but of the entire list of candidates, he'd be on the very bottom of the list for me.


36 posted on 03/02/2007 9:36:55 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Al Gore needs to reduce his carbon butt-print.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

right down there with Hagel, eh? lol


37 posted on 03/02/2007 9:38:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Heh...okay so maybe next to the bottom. ;-)

What can I say? Some of it's personal.

But that's enough for tonight.

g'nite


38 posted on 03/02/2007 9:39:11 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Al Gore needs to reduce his carbon butt-print.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Are referring to McNut?
I just don`t like any Republican candidate trying to climb the dead bodies. Tell us where you stand, show some leadership and vision and we`ll decide . Save the dirt for OBombba or Hillorat.
39 posted on 03/02/2007 9:39:11 PM PST by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: JRios1968

It's like the Judds-- the mom is hotter than the daughter.


40 posted on 03/02/2007 9:40:22 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: FairOpinion

Gilmore gets it right.

But I'll stick with Hunter.


41 posted on 03/02/2007 9:41:33 PM PST by proudpapa (Forget Rudy McRomney it's Duncan Hunter in '08!)
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To: neverhillorat

This ain't your grandpappy's political age , yaknow.

Grow some skin or rent some, it ain't gonna get better for awhile.. ;-)


42 posted on 03/02/2007 9:41:52 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Amen, brother...


43 posted on 03/02/2007 9:47:29 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh, I learned a long time ago that politics ain`t Bean bag, it`s a rough sport. But I also listened to some fellow named Reagan and he had some pretty strong ideas about Republicans beating up other Republicans in primaries.
44 posted on 03/02/2007 9:50:55 PM PST by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: neverhillorat

Like I said, it ain't grandpappy's party anymore, the stakes are even higher than before.

any one who can't stand the heat, well you know what fellow said that too, I reckun.


45 posted on 03/02/2007 9:54:34 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: FairOpinion

LOL!

In a related story Gilmore is 'revealed' as a false candidate!


46 posted on 03/02/2007 10:21:03 PM PST by nowandlater
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To: neverhillorat

Damn!, really? lmao


47 posted on 03/02/2007 10:26:06 PM PST by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: FairOpinion

According to SoCarolina, Duncan Hunter is one of the top three ... Gilmore will learn not to be so hemmed in by his own comments, but he's not there yet.


48 posted on 03/02/2007 10:33:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Spiff

"Fake conservatives"...Well at least he didn't call them fake Republicans. Republicans have a wide spectrum of thought and beliefs, that's why there are only 2 major political parties. And why no one should be called a RINO. Even if it's a favorite term around here.


49 posted on 03/02/2007 10:49:18 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: Corin Stormhands; Kuksool; Clintonfatigued; JohnnyZ; AuH2ORepublican
"As chair of the RNC that year, he managed to preside over the GOP losing the Governor's races in New Jersey and Virginia, his home state. That's the "legacy" I remember."

I can scarcely blame him for NJ. The RINO incumbent, DiFrancesco, his predecessor Christie Whitman, and the state RINO establishment eviscerated the Conservative nominee, Jersey City Mayor Bret Schundler, and quite clearly preferred the pervert rodent, McGreevey, who won. You're also not mentioning the internecine battle for Gilmore's office that year between the AG and the Lt Governor. John Hager, who turned out to be a RINO, never fully supported Mark Earley's candidacy for Governor and a large number of his supporters found themselves going over to Mark Warner's camp. It's no surprise Hager was given a nice little appointment by Warner for having helped him win. Gilmore may not be great, but I'd support him over the Rudy McRomney troika of twits.

50 posted on 03/02/2007 10:55:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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