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Nagin: New Orleans aggressive in claims (He wants $77 Billion)
AP ^ | March 3, 2007 | AP

Posted on 03/03/2007 5:01:39 PM PST by driftdiver

NEW ORLEANS - Only $1 billion of the $77 billion the city is seeking from the Army Corps of Engineers is for infrastructure damages it says it suffered because of levee breaches during Hurricane Katrina. The rest is for such things as the city's tarnished image and tourist industry losses. ADVERTISEMENT

The city "looked at everything and just kind of piled it on," Mayor Ray Nagin said.

"We got some advice from some attorneys to be aggressive with the number, and we'll see what happens," he said.

New Orleans has joined big business and thousands of homeowners in filing claims seeking compensation from the corps for damages sustained when the levees broke during the 2005 storm, flooding 80 percent of the city.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
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The gift that keeps on giving.
1 posted on 03/03/2007 5:01:42 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Oh boy.


2 posted on 03/03/2007 5:02:40 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (As for me, I will remain neutral...for the time being.)
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To: driftdiver
"We got some advice from some attorneys to be aggressive with the number, and we'll see what happens," he said.

That's quite a leader right there, yessiree. He must've picked up that nugget watching the Today show or something.

3 posted on 03/03/2007 5:04:54 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: driftdiver

So are we supposed to spend $77 billion every couple of years because the French (being the French) built a city below sea level and its inhabitants rely on government too much? I don't think so.

How much money has the rest of the Gulf Coast demanded and received?


4 posted on 03/03/2007 5:06:20 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: driftdiver

How about he takes responsibility for New Orleans? The mayor that did nothing.


5 posted on 03/03/2007 5:06:36 PM PST by wastedyears ( Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: driftdiver

Hey Ray, what did you do with all those school buses that came underwater because you refused to use them to evacuate the people? Were they sold at a garage sale?


6 posted on 03/03/2007 5:07:26 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: driftdiver

I wonder how much of that will end up in his personal bank account......


7 posted on 03/03/2007 5:07:53 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: driftdiver

Keep the port and the French Quarter and let the river have the rest.


8 posted on 03/03/2007 5:10:03 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: proudofthesouth

the savage will try to steal as much of it as he can.


9 posted on 03/03/2007 5:10:16 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: driftdiver

It's a wonder to me that between August '05 and now, that guy hasn't been (a) indicted or (b) whacked.


10 posted on 03/03/2007 5:11:11 PM PST by RichInOC (New Orleans has survived just about every disaster thrown at it, except possibly bad government.)
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To: driftdiver
(He wants $77 Billion)

'School Bus' Nagin better bust a move before the next one hits...

11 posted on 03/03/2007 5:12:17 PM PST by Libloather (If solar power is the way to go, wouldn't global warming help out?)
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To: driftdiver
From Larry Elder's book, The Ten Things You Can't Say in America (chapter 7, pg. 182):
In 1871 a fire nearly destroyed the entire city of Chicago, yet, the city rebuilt itself with virtually no government assistance.

The mayor of Chicago put a nonprofit agency, the Chicago Relief and Aid Society, in charge of accepting and distributing the charitable contributions that poured in from all around the country. The police maintained order and attempted to keep looting to a minimum. But this was about the extent of the government's role.

Just two weeks after the fire, O. C. Gibbs of the Chicago Relief and Aid Society issued a circular to all Society personnel. The contents of that memo are worth quoting at length:

"Every carpenter or mason can now earn from three to four dollars per day, every laborer two dollars, every half-grown boy one dollar, every woman capable of doing household work from two to three dollars per week and her board ... Clerks, and persons unaccustomed to outdoor labor, if they cannot find such employment as they have been accustomed to, must take such as if offered or leave the city. Any man, single woman, or boy, able to work and unemployed at this time, is so from choice and not necessity...

"Give no aid to any families who are capable of earning their own support, if fully employed...

"No aid should be rendered to persons possessed of property, either personal or real, from which they might, by reasonable exertions, procure the means to supply their wants, nor to those who have friends able to help them."


12 posted on 03/03/2007 5:12:25 PM PST by Lucretia Borgia (Who ever said the pen is mightier than the sword never met automatic weapons.)
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To: driftdiver

I've always said that NOLA should have been declared a tax-exempt zone for five years and private investors would have rebuilt that city in no time.


13 posted on 03/03/2007 5:12:52 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: driftdiver

I wonder what percentage of a billion dollars actually gets where it's intended, the rest ending up in freezers and numbered Swiss bank accounts.


14 posted on 03/03/2007 5:14:08 PM PST by Spok
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To: Lucretia Borgia
Oops. Should read, "must take such as is offered or leave the city."
15 posted on 03/03/2007 5:14:24 PM PST by Lucretia Borgia (Who ever said the pen is mightier than the sword never met automatic weapons.)
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To: driftdiver

I bet he wants to buy NEW SCHOOL BUSES !!!


16 posted on 03/03/2007 5:15:17 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: proudofthesouth

I think they prefer freezers to banks.
mc :-)


17 posted on 03/03/2007 5:17:29 PM PST by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: wastedyears

Here we go again REWARDING INCOMPETANCY, He is a bumbling failure as well as the Govenor, Many lives could have been saved if he and she would have put the weather channel on!!!! They dropped the ball and all we hear is its Bushes fault, I will agree the federal governments response was slow but they were the first responders and they sat back and did nothing!!!! We all saw they lines of school buses in the parking lot under water after the storm, Shameful simply shameful, This arrogant SOB should be brought to justice for failure to act as a human being.


18 posted on 03/03/2007 5:20:45 PM PST by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: driftdiver

He has to lure back in all that chocolate.


19 posted on 03/03/2007 5:21:37 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: driftdiver
The city "looked at everything and just kind of piled it on," Mayor Ray Nagin said.

Hey Nagin, the "chocolate" factory has been moved to mexico. Try there.

Let us know how it works out.

20 posted on 03/03/2007 5:22:59 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: Libloather

> He wants $77 Billion

Reparations for Chocolate City.


21 posted on 03/03/2007 5:35:30 PM PST by glorgau
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To: driftdiver
They need some new school buses.


22 posted on 03/03/2007 5:37:04 PM PST by D-Chivas
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To: RichInOC

"It's a wonder to me that between August '05 and now, that guy hasn't been (a) indicted or (b) whacked."

Nope. Instead he get's re-elected.


23 posted on 03/03/2007 5:42:14 PM PST by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: driftdiver
"Nagin: New Orleans aggressive in claims (He wants $77 Billion)"

Hey Nagin, the thief, go jump off a high cliff!
Do it swiftly.
24 posted on 03/03/2007 5:46:47 PM PST by ShawTaylor
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To: driftdiver
Once you give them anything they will "expect" it for eternity.

NO was living with rats before the storm. They should not get a free ride just because of bad storm combined with an incompetent major they voted for, an incompetent governor they voted for.
25 posted on 03/03/2007 5:55:40 PM PST by Red6 (Come and get it.)
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To: driftdiver
"We got some advice from some attorneys to be aggressive with the number, and we'll see what happens," he said.

Yeah?

Well, you POS, you'd better talk to them lawyers about giving those guns back, or at least coming up with a good story about where they are.

I hope this POS and his stinking Chief of Police go to jail over the gun confiscations.

26 posted on 03/03/2007 5:57:28 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: TYVets

Hey mayor first you give back all the guns you confiscated and then we will talk!


27 posted on 03/03/2007 6:00:51 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: driftdiver

I work with a herd of Democrats and still I hear conversations about "that George Bush" who still hasn't personally rebuilt every house in New Orleans. Endless complaints about how Bush doesn't care about Katrina, how he sent all the New Orleans money to Iraq when he should have been building housing projects and providing welfare checks, it just goes on and on. Never a word about personal responsibility, insurance problems, that it was a STORM not a Republican project, that there are issues when living below sea level etc. Katrina will be the siren song of the disaffected welfare state until some bigger displacement comes along. That evil Bush!


28 posted on 03/03/2007 6:13:46 PM PST by Sender (Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.)
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To: driftdiver
I say just let the great pool of 'Skilled Engineers' that live in New Orleans build the stuff and be grateful for the great work that will be done.

Afterwards just dont call FEMA, Bush or anyone in the Federal Govt when you get your collective asses kicked by nature again.

29 posted on 03/03/2007 6:15:38 PM PST by prophetic
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To: Sender
Katrina will be the siren song of the disaffected welfare state until some bigger displacement comes along.

Hang on to your wallet if THAT ever happens... the welfare leaches will demand trillions...

30 posted on 03/03/2007 6:17:01 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: driftdiver

I wouldn't trust the alleged leaders in NO with a buck much less 77 bil.


31 posted on 03/03/2007 6:20:35 PM PST by freekitty
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To: lilylangtree

They tried selling one of the busses on eBay.

Their first effort netted almost $ 7k in bids and then they had to restart the auction due to bizarre legal requirements.

The second one netted almost $4k, below the reserve, so I'm not sure what happened to the bus or if they ever managed to sell it.

I really liked the guy selling the bus. He was pummelled with questions and answers, including someone who proposed to use it as a submarine. His reply, if I recall correctly, is that he thought it would be able to submerge, but wasn't sure about the other part!

I wonder what the salvage value of one of those things would have been. Anyone know?

D

The remnants of the auction (pictures and Q&A long since taken down, alas)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4634748909


32 posted on 03/03/2007 6:34:24 PM PST by daviddennis (If you like my stuff, please visit amazing.com, my new social networking site!)
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To: daviddennis

Was it identified as a flooded vehicle? I think if a vehicle is flooded like that it doesn't have much salvage value. Hmmm...it seems to me there was some fraud after Hurricane Andrew or maybe it was the flood of '95? when people and businesses were trying to launder flooded vehicles.


33 posted on 03/03/2007 6:42:38 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: driftdiver

Give him what San Francisco and Chicago got after their disasters. Nothing. If its worth living there people will build it again. If not, time to pull the life support and let it go.


34 posted on 03/03/2007 6:51:33 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: driftdiver
"$77 Billion"
Good name for a chocolate bar.

35 posted on 03/03/2007 6:54:47 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: driftdiver

It will be an interesting legal case. The levies that broke, if my understanding is not flawed, were not actually built by the Corps. The money went to the local government and the levies were built below the specifications of the Corps with the difference being pocketed by Brother in Law Tommie or Uncle Fred.


36 posted on 03/03/2007 6:58:48 PM PST by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: driftdiver
"The Big Easy" come, easy go. It doesn't come easy at all, and goes way too damn fast for the hard working tax payers whom Nagin and his free loading supporters seek to screw......rape, again and again and again.
37 posted on 03/03/2007 7:09:04 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Dems and RINOs: Too stupid 2 lead, too vain 2 follow, too egotistical 2 get the hell out of the way!)
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To: driftdiver

"Follow the money!"


38 posted on 03/03/2007 7:16:46 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: driftdiver

"Follow the money!"


39 posted on 03/03/2007 7:16:49 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: driftdiver

"Follow the money!"


40 posted on 03/03/2007 7:16:49 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

That did merit repeating. But threepeating? ;-)


41 posted on 03/03/2007 7:23:19 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Dems and RINOs: Too stupid 2 lead, too vain 2 follow, too egotistical 2 get the hell out of the way!)
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To: Ingtar

"t will be an interesting legal case. The levies that broke, if my understanding is not flawed, were not actually built by the Corps. The money went to the local government and the levies were built below the specifications of the Corps with the difference being pocketed by Brother in Law Tommie or Uncle Fred."

Last time I looked, the Corps' own report (as well as that of three other independent engineering firms) accepted full culpability for the failure of the levees to perform up to their design specs. Words like "faulty design and construction" I believe. I don't see how it's possible to maintain something that is improperly designed and constructed in the first place short of what they were supposed to do.


42 posted on 03/03/2007 7:23:34 PM PST by rightwinggoth
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To: driftdiver

Typical liberal entitlement mentality.


43 posted on 03/03/2007 7:24:39 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: driftdiver

Let's see... do I want my tax dollars to go to our soldiers or New Orleans? Hm... this is a hard one.. NOT.. Nagin needs to suck it up and get on with life.


44 posted on 03/03/2007 7:52:33 PM PST by Cate
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To: driftdiver

77 billion! Apparently the new plan is to construct the levees out of pure gold.


45 posted on 03/03/2007 7:53:35 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: daviddennis

Fascinating. Thanks for info.


46 posted on 03/03/2007 9:36:45 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: D-Chivas

Does anybody remember the story about the teenager who "commandeered" one of those buses and loaded about 80 people from his neighborhood up in it. They took off to Texas and pooled their resources for fuel. They made it all the way to I think it was Houston. When he got there, they wanted to turn him back because he wasn't an assigned evacuee driver. He parked the bus, got off and said he wasn't leaving. This was just a kid, but it seems that he had a more level head on his shoulders than Nagin.


47 posted on 03/03/2007 9:44:18 PM PST by spotbust1 (Gun control is when you use both hands.)
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To: Sender

I was in Louisiana at the time of both Katrina and Rita. Rita did as much damage to the western part of the state as did Katrina to the eastern. Whole cities were blown away. I don't hear any complaining from that side of the state. You know why? Because these people are hard working "Cajuns" who aren't looking for handouts. They picked themselves up, dusted off and started rebuilding.


48 posted on 03/03/2007 9:46:38 PM PST by spotbust1 (Gun control is when you use both hands.)
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To: driftdiver

It would be cheaper to move the whole city.


49 posted on 03/03/2007 10:01:39 PM PST by Brimack34 (Rino's need not apply)
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