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Deadly germs take grim toll in hospitals
Star-Telegram ^ | 3-4-07 | JAN JARVIS

Posted on 03/04/2007 6:18:03 AM PST by Dysart

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To: Dustbunny

Terrible story!


21 posted on 03/04/2007 6:49:02 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: YellowRoseofTx

"Finally we cultured her and found she was the carrier."

I don't understand being a "carrier" here.

Are you saying she was a carrier (i.e., infection is not active but is present) but it wasn't actively infecting her heart tissues until the surgery put it there?


22 posted on 03/04/2007 6:49:08 AM PST by webstersII
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To: texgal

I know exactly what you mean. I have the same problem happening with my mother.


23 posted on 03/04/2007 6:49:32 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Dysart
MRSA is everywhere. Staphylococcus aureus has become a problem not just from the over use of antibiotics but because people do not finish their cycle of antibiotics.

Staphylococcus aureus is part of the bodies normal flora,and a lot of people have picked up MRSA just out in public. A person just doesn't fall over dead two weeks after surgery. There had to be some sign of infection say like a fever that was ignored that lead to sepsis.

24 posted on 03/04/2007 6:50:25 AM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE)
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To: Salvey

My mother is on 'Vancomycin' drip every 48 hours. It MUST run for at least 120 min. every time.


25 posted on 03/04/2007 6:51:00 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Erik Latranyi
These infections are only the tip of the iceberg. Medical errors kill similar numbers every year.

I believe there should be greater transparency of information with regard to these sorts of events. As a consumer I'd like to have access to mortality rates, infection rates, etc. so I could make an informed choice of hospital/physician. However, there are those who say such a system will make it difficult for high-risk patients to receive treatment.

26 posted on 03/04/2007 6:52:11 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: webstersII
Are you saying she was a carrier (i.e., infection is not active but is present) but it wasn't actively infecting her heart tissues until the surgery put it there?

That was what I took it to mean from what the doctors said.
27 posted on 03/04/2007 6:52:22 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Captain Rhino
You can't sue a VA hospital, no matter how badly they screw up. She's having to fight the IRS right now because they say she should not be getting her husband's military pension because she is now on disability. Even though it was the VA who caused the the disability.

She's only getting a total of $739 per month to live on. It doesn't seem right that her husband was a Vietnam vet with 4 tours of duty to his credit earned that pension but it is denied her because she underwent what should have been a simple procedure and they KNEW there was a problem with their ventilation system in the operating rooms.

We've contacted our local senators and house reps and all we've heard thus far is that they're working on it. In the meantime she has lost her home to foreclosure and most of her belongings had to be sold.

Our country does not treat its veterans well.

28 posted on 03/04/2007 6:53:37 AM PST by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: NittanyLion

We live in Pennsylvania. They sent my mother home with an infection and never told me she had it.


29 posted on 03/04/2007 6:53:39 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: NittanyLion
I can't believe Pennsylvania is 50 times better than the national average.

Probably not that much better...I'd say their estimates are off, and go with Pennsylvania's actual reported rates, although the article does point out that hospitals that require reporting are believed to have better rates.

30 posted on 03/04/2007 6:55:17 AM PST by Dysart
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To: Dysart
Probably not that much better...I'd say their estimates are off, and go with Pennsylvania's actual reported rates, although the article does point out that hospitals that require reporting are believed to have better rates.

It makes sense to me that requiring reporting will lower the incidence. It occurred to me after posting that the national average may include patients hospitalized multiple times per year, while PA is including infections per hospitalization. So that may account for some of the difference as well.

31 posted on 03/04/2007 6:57:26 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: texgal

"The hospital knew they had a problem and still allowed surgeries to be performed. You've got to wonder why."

Hospitals are like the Airlines, you play the probabilities and hope you never have to pay off. OR's make big big bucks and if its not running the Docs go elsewhere. Follow the money it always leads to the truth.


32 posted on 03/04/2007 6:59:36 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: Dustbunny
know exactly what you mean. I have the same problem happening with my mother.

My prayers are with you and your mother for her to be able to overcome this horrible infection. My sister spent the better part of a year in the hospital as a result of this thing.

33 posted on 03/04/2007 7:01:20 AM PST by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: NittanyLion
I believe there should be greater transparency of information with regard to these sorts of events. As a consumer I'd like to have access to mortality rates, infection rates, etc. so I could make an informed choice of hospital/physician. However, there are those who say such a system will make it difficult for high-risk patients to receive treatment.

Here is Pennsylvania, the hospitals voluntarily cooperated to report medical errors and hospital-sourced infections. In a single year, they attributed 32,000 deaths to those two causes --- this is only in Pennsylvania.

The nationwide numbers must be staggering.

34 posted on 03/04/2007 7:01:52 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Dustbunny
My mother is on 'Vancomycin' drip every 48 hours. It MUST run for at least 120 min. every time.

Vancomycin can be a nephrotoxic antibiotic it usually comes in a 250ml bag so to run it at 125ml/hr is normal. The max rate that an IV is run is generally 150ml/hr, unless they are in acute renal failure is a diuretic faze.

35 posted on 03/04/2007 7:05:31 AM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE)
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To: Salvey

What is amazing is that she caught this infection in the hospital and now she is back in the hospital for another week while they rip off her insurance company for an infection they caused.

If you took your car to a dealer and while they had it there , they rippd the fender off. That dealership would pay to put the fender back on. You go to the hospital and get sicker because of their problem ,and they just keep sending out the bills.

Yo go to a Doctor and he makes a mistake, then you have to go back and he charges you to rectify his mistake.


36 posted on 03/04/2007 7:07:32 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Hubby recently hospitalized. They allowed the IV apparatus to be used for no more than two days before being replaced. He was on intraveinous Cipro the entire time as well. Continued on with the Cipro for another week after release from the hospital.


37 posted on 03/04/2007 7:07:55 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: OldFriend
An IV site is generally good for 96 hours, depending on how the site looks.
38 posted on 03/04/2007 7:11:02 AM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE)
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To: Total Package

Official protocol at this hospital. Two days!


39 posted on 03/04/2007 7:15:34 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: OldFriend

That was good. How's he doing?


40 posted on 03/04/2007 7:17:12 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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