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Evangelist has a Rudy awakening: 'He can win'
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/502451p-423750c.html ^ | 3-4-07 | DAVID SALTONSTALL

Posted on 03/04/2007 7:26:41 AM PST by veronica

Fred Wehba is not supposed to be a Rudy Giuliani supporter.

A born-again Christian who helped found an evangelical church in celebrity-soaked Beverly Hills in 2002, Wehba is deeply opposed to Giuliani's pro-choice, pro-gay-rights views.

But Wehba, a successful businessman, is willing to look beyond those traits to something else he sees in the Republican former mayor: a leadership X-factor that he believes could squash Democrat Hillary Clinton and carry Giuliani all the way to the White House in 2008.

"He's someone who can get things done, and he can win," said Wehba. "And I'm not the only Christian who thinks like that."

As 2008 hopefuls start to woo different slices of the electorate, one of the more unexpected shifts appears to be a slow migration of white evangelical conservatives toward the thrice-married Giuliani.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll last week found that such voters are now a major reason why Giuliani is outpacing Arizona Sen. John McCain by 23 percentage points - up from just seven percentage points in January.

Giuliani is pulling ahead with a novel approach: by simply agreeing to disagree with conservatives on social issues, then moving quickly to the common ground he shares on taxes, education and the war on terror.

"You've got to run based on who you are," Giuliani told a group of South Carolina firefighters recently. "If you do it that way, even people who disagree with you sometimes respect you."

Giuliani is aided by the fact that conservatives have no real standard bearer in the top tier. They distrust McCain for once bashing televangelist Jerry Falwell, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is now greeted with beach flip-flops for all his shifts on abortion and other social issues.

"Giuliani has an authenticity that does register with a lot of conservatives," said John Green, a senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. "They say, 'Well, at least we know where he stands.'"

Which is why Wehba, 59 - a former Texan who last voted for George W. Bush - will be standing with Giuliani tomorrow night when he hits Los Angeles for a fund-raiser.

"Maybe we don't all agree with his social positions," said Wehba. "But that's okay, he's a deal maker."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duncanhunter; giuliani; rudy; rudy2008
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Keep eating your own, and say hello to President Clinton in 2008


41 posted on 03/04/2007 8:54:38 AM PST by WillT
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To: veronica
"Maybe we don't all agree with his social positions," said Wehba. "But that's okay, he's a deal maker."


42 posted on 03/04/2007 8:56:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Be strong in the Lord, in the power of His Might!")
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To: phillyfanatic

Newt made a formal announcement that he won't run. Read it on Town Hall.com.

Newt knows what kind of media blitz he would unleash if he runs.


43 posted on 03/04/2007 8:57:07 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I went to Townhall and saw no such "formal announcement." Got a link?


44 posted on 03/04/2007 9:05:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Be strong in the Lord, in the power of His Might!")
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To: phillyfanatic

I could never vote for Gingrich.


45 posted on 03/04/2007 9:12:21 AM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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To: Tax-chick

I agree. However, here is my stock response to the conservatives who seem eager to see Hillary as POTUS so that they can say they voted (or not) on principle.

I will vote for the Republican nominee for POTUS because that person is more likely to fight the war on terror, cut taxes and regulations, and appoint more constructionsit judges. (On the last, a lot of Rep POTUS' have made mistakes).

That means I will hold my nose and vote for McCain or Romney. Although concerned about RINO tendencies, I like Rudy as a person, and will also vote for him if he gets the nomination.


46 posted on 03/04/2007 9:12:54 AM PST by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: finnman69
"And I'm not the only Christian who thinks like that."


I'm a Christian, and I do not think like that!
47 posted on 03/04/2007 9:13:29 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Rudy Roto Rooter, that is the name

And away goes Rudy down the drain!

(Be careful TxVet, then it's plain

The one name left is John McCain)

48 posted on 03/04/2007 9:18:21 AM PST by Reo
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To: hosepipe
"Rudy will get Hitlery elected FOR SURE.."


I agree with you. Look the way Left Media treat him. It is a good indication for Hitlery's victory.
49 posted on 03/04/2007 9:21:32 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: veronica

I am beginning to believe that President Hillary would be preferable to President Giuliani.

At least with Hillary running things, conservatives would dig in and fight. With Rudy pushing the same agenda, our opposition would wilt.

If the Clinton's 1996 Health Care plan was pushed by Rudy Giuliani, instead of Hillary, it would have passed.


50 posted on 03/04/2007 9:21:46 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: phillyfanatic

That would be the perfect ticket for the MSM . They would use Rudy and Newt's combined baggage to drive a wedge into the Republican ranks in an attempt to get the religious Conservatives to stay home , '06 repeat.
The MSM thinks that this formula will work again , and it will, if Rudy is the nominee .


51 posted on 03/04/2007 9:23:37 AM PST by Neu Pragmatist
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Newt got demonized and shredded by the Klinton/MSM machine in the past, and it surely would happen again .


52 posted on 03/04/2007 9:28:13 AM PST by Neu Pragmatist
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To: HitmanLV

I am for all those things you listed. But I am willing to compromise on them. For instance, I am a strong supporter of the fair tax, and yet I would vote for a republican who is against tax reform if they had a chance of winning.

HOWEVER, I have some principles I will never compromise. Abortion is the top of the list. I think we all have positions that we hold but are willing to compromise on, I hope we all hold some positions so dearly that there is no compromise.

I will compromise on most things to win, BUT I will not sell my soul to gain fiscal responsibility in the White House. There is a difference between political positions and core values.


53 posted on 03/04/2007 9:30:17 AM PST by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Reo; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; veronica
Rudy Roto Rooter, that is the name

And away goes Rudy down the drain!

(Be careful TxVet, then it's plain

The one name left is John McCain)

What we have heyah, is a hilarious retort!

((((applause))))

54 posted on 03/04/2007 9:32:38 AM PST by youngjim (Chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear; and when I do it's something . . . unusual)
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To: veronica

For some "born-again Christians" the only person "worthy" of their political vote would be Jesus. Not likely in this election cycle.


55 posted on 03/04/2007 9:33:10 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: veronica
As 2008 hopefuls start to woo different slices of the electorate, one of the more unexpected shifts appears to be a slow migration of white evangelical conservatives toward the thrice-married Giuliani.

This is the second or third article I've seen that seems to confirm this trend. It will be interesting to watch freepers try and condemn evangelicals as treasonous liberals.

56 posted on 03/04/2007 9:33:18 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
I am beginning to believe that President Hillary would be preferable to President Giuliani.

Sure, dude.

see tagline:

57 posted on 03/04/2007 9:38:01 AM PST by youngjim (Irony is wasted on the stupid)
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To: Reo

McCain/Kerry F the POWS/MIAS
McCain/Feingold F free speech
McCain/Kennedy F American Sovereignty
McCain/Gang of 14
McCain/Keating 5
McCain/Terrorist Bill of Rights
McCain/gun grabber

More?


58 posted on 03/04/2007 9:41:57 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Gamecock

YBPDLN Ping ???

Does this guy even rate one?


59 posted on 03/04/2007 9:44:14 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
LOL!! I've had that same tune going through my head the last few days. Glad you posted it, I love it. Let's all sing it together....and away goes Ruuudy dowwwnnnn the drain....Roto Rooter!
60 posted on 03/04/2007 9:49:30 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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